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RUinHamiltonPark wrote:
NJT has approved a new light rail station on 18th Street between Jersey and Grove. They are trying to get a developer to pay for it in exchange for building some towers.

The city has lots of plans for that area.

I agree there should be a pedestrian overpass on Marin and Jersey if not Manila as well.

Hoboken is also building a new walking path along Observer, and they have plans for towers on that stretch.

I love living in the area- best of JC and Hoboken, easy walk to PATH and bus.

no surprise that njt approved a tower there...i doubt developers would have built so many towers if there wasn't sometype of understanding that a station would get built there

RUinHamiltonPark wrote:
NJT has approved a new light rail station on 18th Street between Jersey and Grove. They are trying to get a developer to pay for it in exchange for building some towers.

The city has lots of plans for that area.

I agree there should be a pedestrian overpass on Marin and Jersey if not Manila as well.

Hoboken is also building a new walking path along Observer, and they have plans for towers on that stretch.

I love living in the area- best of JC and Hoboken, easy walk to PATH and bus.

Voyeur wrote:
Exposed ducts look ugly, period. People who move into lofts in Tribeca or on the Brooklyn waterfront accept them as the price paid for living in a century-old converted warehouse. They are not an aesthetic choice, but a functional necessity in such buildings. Deliberately exposing them in new construction is just a poor design decision.

fikonj wrote:
A pedestrian bridge would be good, but for now, I do hope developers and/or the city will extend the bike cum pedestrian lane coming from the 2nd St HBLR stop that ends abruptly by Coles and 18th Street. Coles St from 18th Street to 10th St is the best way to avoid the tunnel traffic and I take it frequently on foot and by bike but not after dark since the "underpass" is a bit sketchy, to put it mildly.

fikonj wrote:
A pedestrian bridge would be good, but for now, I do hope developers and/or the city will extend the bike cum pedestrian lane coming from the 2nd St HBLR stop that ends abruptly by Coles and 18th Street. Coles St from 18th Street to 10th St is the best way to avoid the tunnel traffic and I take it frequently on foot and by bike but not after dark since the "underpass" is a bit sketchy, to put it mildly.

tommyc_37 wrote:
I think it makes sense to develop that area, but will take a heck of a long time for it to not feel isolated. The Hoboken Path station is not far distance-wise, but it's not pedestrian friendly or pretty to walk there. It will be a minimum of several decades before that are feels like a neighborhood, I think.

I wish they would build a large pedestrian bridge/overpass over the Holland Tunnel entrance/exit. A wide pedestrian bridge (like 300 feet wide) covered in grass and landscaping would make for an awesome park, and a way to tie that area into Hamilton Park.

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nafco wrote:
Theres a planning dept in JC?

Shocking, aint it?

Not exactly JC, but in the 2002 County Executive race there was a "debate" in which I asked "given the historic and once in a lifetime nature of the development going on here, what do you think should be done to plan it?". Both DeGise and the other Dem basically said "planning is great, we plan to plan". The very young GOP cannon fodder candidate gave a long thoughtful answer. I voted for him.

yes, jersey city politicians and planning officials are great at planning....planning for developer contributions, imo.

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nafco wrote:
Theres a planning dept in JC?

Shocking, aint it?

Not exactly JC, but in the 2002 County Executive race there was a "debate" in which I asked "given the historic and once in a lifetime nature of the development going on here, what do you think should be done to plan it?". Both DeGise and the other Dem basically said "planning is great, we plan to plan". The very young GOP cannon fodder candidate gave a long thoughtful answer. I voted for him.

nafco wrote:
Theres a planning dept in JC?

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Voyeur wrote:
Among the developers' grand plans is a scheme to "raise the streets in the area out of the flood plain [????] while installing new storm and sanity sewer lines. The neighborhood would also get new street lights, public wi-fi, sidewalks and landscaped areas."

Note, some shrubs, not a "park" for the families they presumably are trying to attract to these large units. A whole neighborhood is being built there, but no parkspace, so they will inevitably come down to the already overpressured Hamilton Park. Planning Dept?? Hello??

I'm curious as to whether the Planning Department serves any real function, or if it simply operates as a rubber stamp when faced with a proposal that will generate $$$ for those who have the power in City Hall.

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Among the developers' grand plans is a scheme to "raise the streets in the area out of the flood plain [????] while installing new storm and sanity sewer lines. ...

jcguy05 wrote: doesnt matter how much potential or how much the area improves. 99% of the people will never want to live in front of something like this.

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Voyeur wrote:
"Taint" update: according to this blog post/advertorial, the developers at Cast Iron Lofts are doubling down on their gamble back there. They have just topped out the 232-unit Cast Iron II and they are already six stories high on a 377-unit twin towered development. By my count they have about 750 apartments either completed or under construction in non-man's land.

Among the developers' grand plans is a scheme to "raise the streets in the area out of the flood plain [????] while installing new storm and sanity sewer lines. The neighborhood would also get new street lights, public wi-fi, sidewalks and landscaped areas."

Good luck to them. I hope that this eyesore can be converted into a real neighborhood but I suspect all of the problems blighting this area may prove an insurmountable barrier to tempting yuppie families willing and able to pay $5,450 a month for a three-bedroom apartment.

Good luck is right - $5,450/month and Holland Gardens up the block - location, location, location!!

Voyeur wrote:
"Taint" update: according to this blog post/advertorial, the developers at Cast Iron Lofts are doubling down on their gamble back there. They have just topped out the 232-unit Cast Iron II and they are already six stories high on a 377-unit twin towered development. By my count they have about 750 apartments either completed or under construction in non-man's land.

Among the developers' grand plans is a scheme to "raise the streets in the area out of the flood plain [????] while installing new storm and sanity sewer lines. The neighborhood would also get new street lights, public wi-fi, sidewalks and landscaped areas."

Good luck to them. I hope that this eyesore can be converted into a real neighborhood but I suspect all of the problems blighting this area may prove an insurmountable barrier to tempting yuppie families willing and able to pay $5,450 a month for a three-bedroom apartment.

hero69 wrote:
i can see why ogden avenue folks would be upset as those towers do, imo, diminish the views, but why were hamilton park people upset. also, that area could use a decent park

downtownempire wrote:
That area was already to go with a brand new redevelopment plan. New Light Station. Many property owners in the area were all on board with it. JC Planning was working on it for over one year. It was presented to the Mayor and surrounding community groups. Then complaints started from Hamilton Park and Ogden Avenue folks put a stop to it. No guts no glory!

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Voyeur wrote:
Among the developers' grand plans is a scheme to "raise the streets in the area out of the flood plain [????] while installing new storm and sanity sewer lines. The neighborhood would also get new street lights, public wi-fi, sidewalks and landscaped areas."

Note, some shrubs, not a "park" for the families they presumably are trying to attract to these large units. A whole neighborhood is being built there, but no parkspace, so they will inevitably come down to the already overpressured Hamilton Park. Planning Dept?? Hello??

Voyeur wrote:
Among the developers' grand plans is a scheme to "raise the streets in the area out of the flood plain [????] while installing new storm and sanity sewer lines. The neighborhood would also get new street lights, public wi-fi, sidewalks and landscaped areas."

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DouglasReynholm wrote:
SoHo - South of Hoboken

Let the building of 20 story towers commence !

20 stories is nothing. why not 50 stories or even 75 stories...plus they really need to get a light rail stop near that area.. the 2nd street stop in hoboken is a hike imo

DouglasReynholm wrote:
SoHo - South of Hoboken

Let the building of 20 story towers commence !