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NYC mandates union labor. Dubai uses slave labor. That's how their building is only the fifth most expensive while ours is #1.


That is partially correct; PUBLIC projects are definitely union only. Private developers on private jobs are free to use open shop labor or union.

Burj Khalifa is a private project built by a private firm with private funding. Same with BoA. Even though it is in NYC, they can chose to use non union labor however most large companies do not as they do not want bad PR.


They don't want bad PR or they don't want their project sabatoged? I've heard plenty of instances of this happening.

Anyway the point is that the extreme difference in labor costs accounts for the total price difference. The article writer shouldn't be so shocked, especially for Dubai.


Can you give an example of a JC project sabotaged for not using union workers, I'm curious.

Union money is often part of a funding package, hence union workers.


I was referring to NYC, not JC. Much of it goes unreported due to intimidation and lack of meaningful redress. However, the fact that companies "willingly" choose to spend far more on labor costs by hiring union should tell you something.

Here are some examples, both recent and not recent. The issues discussed in the New York Times article persist today.

http://www.nytimes.com/1994/10/24/nyr ... wall-on-new-york-job.html

http://laborunionreport.com/2013/12/2 ... lead-guilty-to-extortion/

http://www.nilrr.org/resources/violence-event-data-file/

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NYC mandates union labor. Dubai uses slave labor. That's how their building is only the fifth most expensive while ours is #1.


That is partially correct; PUBLIC projects are definitely union only. Private developers on private jobs are free to use open shop labor or union.

Burj Khalifa is a private project built by a private firm with private funding. Same with BoA. Even though it is in NYC, they can chose to use non union labor however most large companies do not as they do not want bad PR.


They don't want bad PR or they don't want their project sabatoged? I've heard plenty of instances of this happening.

Anyway the point is that the extreme difference in labor costs accounts for the total price difference. The article writer shouldn't be so shocked, especially for Dubai.


Can you give an example of a JC project sabotaged for not using union workers, I'm curious.

Union money is often part of a funding package, hence union workers.

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That is partially correct; PUBLIC projects are definitely union only. Private developers on private jobs are free to use open shop labor or union.

Burj Khalifa is a private project built by a private firm with private funding. Same with BoA. Even though it is in NYC, they can chose to use non union labor however most large companies do not as they do not want bad PR.


They don't want bad PR or they don't want their project sabatoged? I've heard plenty of instances of this happening.

Anyway the point is that the extreme difference in labor costs accounts for the total price difference. The article writer shouldn't be so shocked, especially for Dubai.

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Burj Khalifa is a private project built by a private firm with private funding. Same with BoA. Even though it is in NYC, they can chose to use non union labor however most large companies do not as they do not want bad PR.

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NYC mandates union labor. Dubai uses slave labor. That's how their building is only the fifth most expensive while ours is #1.

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Could this be one reason why PATH service is so bad?

http://curbed.com/archives/2014/12/02 ... st-expensive-building.php

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isn't it time that governors should be accountable for the actions of their appointees? we hold our local mayors feet to the fire when their appointments falter, start treating the PA as part of your governor's performance.

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The soaring price tag has also been fueled by the demands of powerful politicians whose priorities outweighed worries about the bottom line, as well as the Port Authority’s questionable management and oversight of private contractors.


i'm shocked. aren't you shocked? we should both be absolutely astounded at the news of this


Actually, this doesn't surprise me at all. The Port Authority is notorious for mismanaging time and money. They are absolutely clueless on how to get anything done. Typical "DMV Behavior".

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My favorite part of this article was when David Steiner visited the Milwaukee Museum and said "OK Santiago, you can have your goddamn wings". Like a king granting a boon. Thanks, Steiner. Can I spend some of YOUR money now?

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The soaring price tag has also been fueled by the demands of powerful politicians whose priorities outweighed worries about the bottom line, as well as the Port Authority’s questionable management and oversight of private contractors.


i'm shocked. aren't you shocked? we should both be absolutely astounded at the news of this

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I'm diggin' this PATH Alert....

12/2/2014 1:53:02 PM
Due to a track condition, Path trains will operate 20 minute around the world service with en route delays.

PATH can now take us around the world.


"around the world service" = 33 via Hoboken, but I wouldn't put it past them to add stops in several other nations before crossing the river...


33rd Street via Hoboken, Antwerp.

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I'm diggin' this PATH Alert....

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Due to a track condition, Path trains will operate 20 minute around the world service with en route delays.

PATH can now take us around the world.


"around the world service" = 33 via Hoboken, but I wouldn't put it past them to add stops in several other nations before crossing the river...

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Sh1t! I spit water all over my keyboard and desk. LOL

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Ha ha, I logged on to post the same thing but you beat me to it. LOL.

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Due to a track condition, Path trains will operate 20 minute around the world service with en route delays.

PATH can now take us around the world.


That made me really LOL. Thanks for making me laugh PATH (and Mastablasta for pointing it out!).

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I'm diggin' this PATH Alert....

12/2/2014 1:53:02 PM
Due to a track condition, Path trains will operate 20 minute around the world service with en route delays.

PATH can now take us around the world.

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Thank you, Cory.

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Can anyone confirm that the WTC line is running this weekend? Call me crazy, but I don't entirely trust PATHalerts....

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I've never seen anything about an existing platform or station there.

There was another thread here that had discussion about a possible Marion station near Westside Ave., and there were a couple of items about whether a station could be added near Brunswick or Cornelison.

If you research PATH history, you'll find that there were formerly stops at 19th St. and 28th St. You can still see the platform at 19th St.

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Hi All - I know someone had mentioned something about an existing platform or station or something between the Grove Station and JSQ station. I can't seem to find that post. Can anyone shed some light on that?

One of my friend's was curious and I wanted to send that link to him.

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You are thinking of the stupid idea of putting a station in the Marion neighborhood. It is an idea championed by the likes of Yvonne and Healy, who lack logic and brain power to see that trying to implement THAT would be a distraction from actual improvements to the rest of the PATH system.

Here is the thread:
Marion PATH Station thread

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Hi All - I know someone had mentioned something about an existing platform or station or something between the Grove Station and JSQ station. I can't seem to find that post. Can anyone shed some light on that?

One of my friend's was curious and I wanted to send that link to him.

Thanks.

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Odds are slim, but given how goddamn incompetent the PA is, anyone think they suspend the 33rd line before they reopen the WTC line on weekends?

Surely, they can't be THAT stupid. Right? RIGHT? Sh*t, I probably just gave them an idea.

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Is there word or confirmation if/when the WTC weekend service will be back? We've almost at the end of November, and I haven't seen anything.

Is it going to be back the 1st weekend of Jan 2015, or is it "Sometime" early 2015 (which may mean "anytime" 2015)?

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riders of a an c trains will also be inconvenienced due to sandy

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/s ... subways-article-1.1941966

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11/19- Due to maintenance activity short trains will operate JSQ-33(HOB) 1:30am-5am. Expect additional passenger congestion.



Just wonderful. It doesn't make much sense to me how maintenance work would be helped by running shorter trains -- as opposed to running trains even less frequently than they do overnight.

And then we can certainly "expect additional passenger congestion" when 2015 rolls around and they start de-salination work on the uptown tubes. That will be fun.


They might be doing some work at the end of a platform? At least they're announcing this in advance, there have been times I've had to run for short trains with no warning.

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11/19- Due to maintenance activity short trains will operate JSQ-33(HOB) 1:30am-5am. Expect additional passenger congestion.



Just wonderful. It doesn't make much sense to me how maintenance work would be helped by running shorter trains -- as opposed to running trains even less frequently than they do overnight.

And then we can certainly "expect additional passenger congestion" when 2015 rolls around and they start de-salination work on the uptown tubes. That will be fun.

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looks like extension to newark airport may not happen


http://newyorkyimby.com/2014/11/good- ... nt-leave-the-station.html


That was a cute story / conspiracy theory. The bottom line is that the extension has been talked about for at least a decade, even before Christie came to power. While its not necessarily critical to Jersey City, its an important part of expanding PATH service and redeveloping Newark, which means it should be a priority for New Jersey. Even just one new station in Newark -- although there has been talk of adding a PATH station between the airport and Penn Station -- would radically alter the prospects of Newark's redevelopment program. And as prices in cities, especially Jersey City, continue to rise, adding more transit accessible land will be critical to the economic survival of the state. The airport extension, even in the best case scenario is 10 to 20 years out, which is just about the the ideal time to start expanding Newark's nascent redevelopment.

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Forget the EWR service.

Is there a petition or something that is out there that is addressing this? I am sure we can get a lot of signatures thru this medium and all other online forums.

It'll be better than just bitching about it on this forum.

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