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Re: Jersey City’s Garbage Trucks go Electric
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The issue with having enough space/time to charge electric vehicles is doable if planned right. Most buses, garbage trucks do not run 24/7 and they go sit in a parking lot when not in use. Also the battery tech (though not to hydrocarbon levels) and solar generation efficiency will improve over time.


The issues are that the vehicles were unable to complete their routes due to battery life issues. In one case, the buses were equipped with diesel fired heaters as running the heat off battery drained it.

Stalls, stops and breakdowns: Problems plague push for electric buses



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The EIA annual report on electricity generation will give you a good idea of the trends.

https://www.eia.gov/state/?sid=NJ#tabs-4

Based on the above, about 12% of energy is generated by solar + other renewable (wind, geothermal) in 2020. This has grown from 4% since 2010.


You misread the data on the link you sent. "Renewables" are about 4% with about 1/4th coming from burning trash. EIA counts the bio portion of waste (paper, linen, food waste, sewage sludge) as part of the renewable pool.

Here is a breakout of the 2020 energy mix (data from EIA):

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Here is the power mix over the past decade. You can see that solar hasn't risen much and wind is still basically a rounding error:

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The US Northeast is likely to see a significant growth in offshore wind power generation in the next few years


Doing a thought experiment here: How much solar or wind would it take to replace natural gas, coal, and oil, based on 2020 EIA data?

For both solar and wind I am going to assume we have batteries available with infinite storage and a 100% efficiency. So there will be no need for 'buffering' (standby natural gas fired generators). I am also going to ignore the rest of the major issues with wind and solar such as: asynchronous generation (doesn't maintain frequency), lack of grid inertia, lack of reactive power, formation of destructive resonance, et.

Solar

The theoretical limit for silicon based solar PV panels is 32%. The best panels available hit 22%. In the real world, the panels operate at about 15% on average. I will assume 22% efficiency with no degradation over time or at high temperatures. NJ receives on average about 4.3 kWh/m2/day (0.935 kWh/ft2/day) in solar energy.

Using the above, you would need about 358 square miles of solar panels to replace fossil fuels.

Off-Shore Wind

The off-shore wind density per NYSERDA is 0.1 MW/acre. The capacity factor is 44% (per EIA). Turbines can't be packed densly or layered because the leading turbines will rob power from the aft turbines. So you are going to create a long line of these things.

How many? Well, the biggest ones deployed are rated at 6 MW. This means you will need over 600 turbines covering an area in excess of 128 square miles.

For illustration, here are the required areas put on a map. The big red circle is solar. The green off-shore is wind. The small red circle is the area required for a Generation 3+ nuclear plant (about 2,500 acres). The nuke has the additional advantage is that it avoids all the other issues with renewables listed earlier (i.e. grid inertia) and has no need for buffering or batteries.

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Planning on running the world on wind and solar is magical thinking. It isn't going to happen. Trying to do so will only lead us to a life of energy poverty. See Europe as an unfolding example. Due to a persistent high pressure system (no wind) natural gas supplies were depleted to keep the lights on. Now there isn't enough gas in storage for winter and the forecast is for a colder than average winter.

The German government is posting PSAs on how to stay warm with clay pots and candles because they are facing rolling blackout (not enough gas to keep the light on). This is our future as well if we keep up with this "electrification" fantasy.

https://rmx.news/germany/heating-crisi ... blankets-and-tea-candles/

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Re: Jersey City’s Garbage Trucks go Electric
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I've been watching the electric vehicle (EV) development progress on you tube presentations and I wonder if the trade off of emission pollution will be balanced out by the environmental impact (especially mining) of the battery development.



Modern vehicles pollution (real pollutants like NOx, particulates, carbon monoxide, VOCs) are low as to not cause dangerous air quality issues. EVs are driven by the politics regarding CO2.

The whole driving force behind EVs is part of a bigger electrification goal:

The nation runs on "Carbon Free" wind and solar power by 2040 or 2050. There is a better chance of flapping your arms and flying to the moon than running the grid on intermittent solar and wind. We here in NJ had our electric bills raised by about 50% to pay for putting solar PV panels everywhere. Last I checked, solar accounts somewhere around 2% of all the power generated in the state. Natural gas is #1 followed by nuclear in the generation pool.

The only "Carbon Free" option for power generation is smashing atoms. You are going to need to build nukes.. a lot of them.

Posted on: 12/9 15:56
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Re: Jersey City’s Garbage Trucks go Electric
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The Alternative:

Dimethyl Ether (DME)

DME is an isomer of ethanol and is a gas at atmospheric pressure. It is an excellent substitute for diesel fuel that offers the following advantages:

1. It is non-toxic (DME is used as a propellant in spray cans like deodorant).
2. If DME is spilled, it breaks down in less than 24 hours.
3. It is an oxygenated fuel and burns without soot. There is no need to use a filter on the truck exhaust.
4. It stores like propane (liquid under modest pressure) so there is no need to develop special technology to store it (this is a huge issue with hydrogen).

Downsides:

DME has a lower energy density than diesel. 1 gal of DME = 0.56 gal of diesel. However, this is not a deal killer. Volvo states a 600 mile cruising range on their trucks. The fill-ups are quick vs. hours of charge time for a battery.

DME powered vehicles exist

The vehicles are already commercially available. Volvo partnered with Delphi to develop the engines and are currently marketed in Europe. Volvo offers the vehicles through it subsidiary Mack Truck here in the USA. DME powered garbage trucks were successfully testes at the Fresh Kills landfill by the NY Dept. of Sanitation.

DME can be produced from the organic portions of the municipal waste stream. Organic portions is about 2/3rd of the waste stream by mass.

Rough back-of-the-napkin calcs:

JC has a population of about 293K which would produce about 585 tons of waste per day. That would translate into about 8 million gallons of DME per year. Jersey City could turn its own waste into fuel for its trucks with millions of gallons to spare.










Posted on: 12/8 16:47
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Re: Jersey City’s Garbage Trucks go Electric
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Wasn't able to fix a typo in my previous post"

"The cost of upgrading will make electricity UNaffordable. "

Posted on: 12/8 16:27
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Re: Jersey City’s Garbage Trucks go Electric
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> This will end up being a very expensive mistake.

Why and how is that?

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MJ = Mega-joules
1 MJ = 948 Btu
1kg = 2.2 lbs

Issue 1: Theoretical Energy Limits

The last big advance in battery storage was the introduction of the lithium-ion battery back in the '90s. Lead acid batteries can store about 0.1 MJ/kg. Li-ion batteries have hit 0.5 MJ/kg, which is a big improvements, but nowhere near what you get from fossil fuels. Diesel has about 45 MJ/kg, which means a Li-ion battery has less than 2% the energy density of diesel fuel. The theoretical-limit of Li-ion technology is about 3 MJ/kg. No technological advance is going beyond this point. There just aren't enough electrons available via oxidation beyond this point. So your limit on Li-ion is about 6% to 7% of diesel fuel.

This means you need a massive battery to get the similar performance and range. This is especially challenging in very hot and colder climates where battery performance drops dramatically. The batteries need to be heated and cooled to maintain performance. (which greatly increases the power drain). This problem is especially acute with trying to run large commercial equipment on a battery. Some examples:

Albuquerque’s $133-million electric bus system is going nowhere fast

Report: Philadelphia’s Proterra Fleet in Complete Shambles

Electric buses from Berliner BVG have a cold problem

Nikola and Republic Services scrap their electric garbage truck



Issue 2: Electric Infrastructure

The issues go beyond the long charge times, which may require having multiple trucks to do the work of what was done with one. Charging a number of large vehicles at a time means power draw in the megwatts level. Bottom line: The electric infrastructure (power lines, sub-stations, peaking power plants, etc.) doesn't exist to support electrification of transportation. The cost of upgrading will make electricity affordable. This is what is happening in Germany which needs to impose rationing of power, which includes vehicle charging stations.


Issue 3: Environmental

There is no way to run transportation on batteries without devastating environmental consequences.

It is easier to make new Li-ion batteries that recycle existing ones. Li-ion batteries typically end up in incinerators (Li-ion batteries are a major fire hazard in landfills). There is tech out there now that claims to recycle the lithium, but I have no idea if any of these processes are economically viable. As of now, electrification is driving a huge increase in the mining of lithium.

Beyond lithium you have a pressing need for cobalt, which is a transition metal used in Li-ion batteries. Cobalt is a much rarer / expensive metal and primarily comes from Africa.


Issue 4 - Safety

Li-ion batteries are bombs. The battery contains everything needed to burn on its own without an supply of oxygen. The fires are difficult to damn near impossible to put out. In Europe electric cars that catch fire are put in a tank of water for 72 hours before transporting to the dump. The reason is that the cars have re-caught fire while be towed to the junk yard. To make matters worse is that the fires are so intense they set the adjacent vehicles on fire as well. The chain reaction in a parking garage could take out a building.










The issues go beyond what I stated above. There is a commercially viable alternative, which I will put together a post on later.

Posted on: 12/8 15:52
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Re: Jersey City’s Garbage Trucks go Electric
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This will end up being a very expensive mistake.

Posted on: 2021/11/16 19:00
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Re: Do not vaccinate your children!
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OSHA suspends vaccine injury report rules:

DOL and OSHA, as well as other federal agencies, are working diligently to encourage COVID-19 vaccinations. OSHA does not wish to have any appearance of discouraging workers from receiving COVID-19 vaccination, and also does not wish to disincentivize employers' vaccination efforts. As a result, OSHA will not enforce 29 CFR 1904's recording requirements to require any employers to record worker side effects from COVID-19 vaccination at least through May 2022. We will reevaluate the agency’s position at that time to determine the best course of action moving forward.

Posted on: 2021/11/6 19:10
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Re: Do not vaccinate your children!
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Already happened in Kentucky. This latest variant is a mutation on the spike protein, which is the single protein the jabs is supposed to get your body to form antibodies for.


One of these, a mutation termed E484K located in the spike protein of the virus, gives it an "increased resistance" to antibodies generated by the vaccine.

R.1 shares an additional mutation, the D614G, with all other variants that have overtaken the original alpha strain, which increases its infectiousness.



https://www.the-sun.com/news/3707195/n ... tations-virus-antibodies/


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I watched a virology expert yesterday explain that since the "vaccine" was developed for the initial virus it was pretty much useless for the new variants. I wish I'd noted the link.

Posted on: 2021/10/29 15:23
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Re: Do not vaccinate your children!
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The Lancet has published a paper from Sweden on the declining effectiveness of the vaccines. Parts in bold is where I added some info to make the summary easier to read. Full paper at link below.
T[he Swedish study numbers are similar to what the CDC has published for the two mRNA jabs available in the USA. The AstraZeneca vector virus jab had a similar collapse in effectiveness as the J&J version. https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3949410
Summary:
Background: Whether vaccine effectiveness against Coronavirus disease 2019 (Covid-19) lasts longer than 6 months is unclear.
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Methods: A retrospective cohort study was conducted using Swedish nationwide registries. The cohort comprised 842,974 pairs (N=1,684,958), including individuals vaccinated with 2 doses of ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 (AstraZeneca), mRNA-1273 (Moderna), or BNT162b2 (Pfizer), and matched unvaccinated individuals. Cases of symptomatic infection and severe Covid-19 (hospitalization or 30-day mortality after confirmed infection) were collected from 12 January to 4 October 2021.
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Vaccine effectiveness of BNT162b2 (Pfizer) against infection waned progressively from 92% at day 15-30 to 47% at day 121-180, and from day 211 and onwards no effectiveness could be detected .
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The effectiveness waned slightly slower for mRNA-1273 (Moderna), being estimated to 59% from day 181 and onwards. --
In contrast, effectiveness of ChAdOx1 (AstraZeneca vector virus vaccine, similar to J&J) nCoV-19 was generally lower and waned faster, with no effectiveness detected from day 121 and onwards, whereas effectiveness from heterologous ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 / mRNA (AstraZeneca mRNA booster introduced due to blood clotting issues with the vector virus vaccine) was maintained from 121 days and onwards .
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Overall, vaccine effectiveness was lower and waned faster among men and older individuals. For the outcome severe Covid-19, effectiveness waned from 89% (95% CI, 82-93, P<0·001) at day 15-30 to 42% (95% CI, -35-75, P=0·21) from day 181 and onwards, with sensitivity analyses showing notable waning among men, older frail individuals, and individuals with comorbidities.
-- Interpretation: Vaccine effectiveness against symptomatic Covid-19 infection wanes progressively over time across all subgroups, but at different rate according to type of vaccine, and faster for men and older frail individuals. The effectiveness against severe illness seems to remain high through 9 months, although not for men, older frail individuals, and individuals with comorbidities. This strengthens the evidence-based rationale for administration of a third booster dose.

Posted on: 2021/10/28 21:02
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Re: Do not vaccinate your children!
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These are two good videos for people who (like me) have acquired immunity from a previous COVID infection:


Dr. John Campbell covers CDC, and Israeli government info comparing vaccinated effectiveness against reinfection (before the vaccines start to wane) vs. acquired immunity from previous case of COVID.

Most importantly, he covers the UK data on the increase in vaccine complications for people who get vaccinated after recovering from COVID. For Pfizer nearly 3x increase with 56% increase in the side effects requiring hospitalization.







Here is another good breakdown on the Israeli data on protecting from breakthrough infections of the Delta variant:

Vaccine (Pfizer) vs. Previous infection vs. Previous infection + vaccine.





Posted on: 2021/10/26 14:46
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Re: Do not vaccinate your children!
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Dr. John Campbell (a man who has been on topic of COVID since the beginning) covers the following topics:

Issues with getting aspiration done to prevent the vaccine from getting injected directly into the blood stream.

The declining effectiveness of the vaccines (CDC data):

Janssen (J&J)
March, 92%
August, 3%

Moderna
March, 91%
August, 64%

Pfizer
March, 95%
August, 50%

CDC plans to mix / match different boosters.




Posted on: 2021/10/26 14:28
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Re: How the Mayor Stuck Wards A, B, C and D With $143 Million In Taxes
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Personally.. I paid about $10k less per year. People downtown should be happy that they had everyone in the Heights, Greenville, Bergen-Lafayette subsidizing them for a decade or more that the re-evaluation got stalled.

Posted on: 2021/10/19 17:50
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Re: Maloney's Closed?
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Copied from Reddit:


Facebook Post by Sean Dynes (edited):

Goodbye old friend. Today I took a quick trip into JC to help mark the end of 5 eras, the venerable Moloney's is closing forever. There are a number of factors that added up to it's demise and I will try and fairly touch on all as I am friends with the final owner Edward Connelly I have "the scoop". One hundred and forty six years, that is a long time for any business to survive and it is a source of pride to say I have known and called friend all that worked and owned the place for over fifty of those years. I even did the only big carpenter job there, ever, demolition and replacement of working freezer floor, about 30 years ago (ps: it's still nice and level and flat).

The biggest factor leading to today is parking, or lack thereof. Sadly the largest offender seems to be the Sheriff's Department. They take most all the spots, don't feed the meters and their windshield placards give them virtual immunity to tickets. It shouldn't be that way but is. Ed made numerous complaints and they should have been addressed, after the first one, but never were. I have been there a couple times in last few months and have seen it. "Commoners" cars get overtime tickets, seemingly almost instantly and placarded cars are completely ignored. Luckily I have been able to find legit spots and keep that meter fed, but if your driving customers can NEVER find parking you have lost them as customers, just that simple.

Posted on: 2021/10/14 11:26
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Maloney's Closed?
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Stopped by to pick up a few things. There was a sign on the door that said "Closed Until Further Notice". The place was completely appeared to be completely stripped of product.

Anyone have an idea what is going on? I really wanted to pick up some more of those buffalo burger paddies.

Posted on: 2021/10/13 19:31
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Re: Tenant opened a pizza space without permits
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My lease allows for any fines & legal expenses incurred due to a tenant's actions to be recovered "as additional rent". Does your lease have that?

If so, starting billing your tenant. If he fails to pay, file for eviction in landlord / tenant court.

Posted on: 2021/10/5 21:52
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Re: Hudson County Announces Vaccine Distribution Center Will Begin Distributing Pfizer Booster Shots
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If you're getting the booster watch this video--very critical:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBaIRm4610o


This guy has been on top of Covid stuff for over a year now. Surprised he didn't get banned yet on Youtube.

The idea the vaccines were being injected incorrectly was brought up months ago, as explanation of why there have been so many issue (heart with mRNA, blood clots with vector viruses). The vaccines were being injected directly into the blood stream.

Aspirating an injection is pretty straight forward (I had to do it daily for a while giving my wife shots). Shocked if trained nurses aren't doing it on a large scale basis.

Unfortunately one of my in-laws was a victim. Damaged heart from the Pfizer vaccine.

EDIT: Didn't know the CDC and WHO recommended against aspiration.

Posted on: 2021/9/27 18:54
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Re: Solomon Unveils Affordable Housing Plan
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Lots of words on rent control...

And of course nothing about how R-1 zoning restricts the supply of housing...

Typical

Posted on: 2021/9/20 17:45
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Re: Jersey City Residents and Businesses Now Eligible for Federal Ida Disaster Relief
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I wonder of the repairs I made due the flash flood can be partially covered?

Posted on: 2021/9/20 15:49
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Re: Ida remnants 9-1-2021
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Building next door just had a fire in the basement (probably electrical). Their basement filled up to the ceiling (it was pouring into mine). Tried to let the tenants know that the flood was taking out their boilers, hot water heaters.

Posted on: 2021/9/2 13:47
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Re: Ida remnants 9-1-2021
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Just to add. I did shutoff power to the boilers and laundry when I saw the hell that was being unleashed.

Posted on: 2021/9/2 4:05
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Re: Ida remnants 9-1-2021
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I had a river going down the street. A literal river. Ground water rose and overwhelmed my sump. Had water pouring in right down the basement steps.

Coin op laundry got flooded. So did my boilers. Electric service still dry for now. 24 years in JC and I have never seen flooding like this. I am in the Heights, so not exactly a flood zone.

Posted on: 2021/9/2 4:04
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Re: Do not vaccinate your children!
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John Hopkins Covid Risk Calculator

https://covid19risktools.com:8443/riskcalculator

Posted on: 2021/8/24 18:24
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Re: Potential Hurricane On Sunday - East of JC
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Checked out the JSQ weather station. Rain came down at a rate of 3.3 inches per hour.



Wow.

5 pm Eyewitness News just said Jersey City at 5.78 inches.


A can I have been using as a rain gauge hit 8.5 inches when I measured it at 7 PM. Looks like maybe another inch or more before this is all said and done.

Posted on: 2021/8/22 23:31
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Re: Potential Hurricane On Sunday - East of JC
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Checked out the JSQ weather station. Rain came down at a rate of 3.3 inches per hour.




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Re: Potential Hurricane On Sunday - East of JC
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Ch7 Eyewitness News rain measurement from Sunday 2 am:

Jersey City: 3.65
Hoboken: 3.12


Which explains why my basement was a bit wet (thankfully.. not flooded) this morning.

I also found out when I put my new phone on 'silent mode', it doesn't silent the emergency alerts. Which was quite jarring at 2 AM

Posted on: 2021/8/22 13:55
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Re: Potential Hurricane On Sunday - East of JC
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Early morning model runs shifted the storm back east a bit, over colder water, weakening the storm some. Models show it coming ashore as a strong tropical storm instead of a strong Cat-1 hurricane.





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Posted on: 2021/8/21 10:26
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Potential Hurricane On Sunday - East of JC
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Landfall estimated late Sunday.

Weatherbell thinks it could reach a Cat 3 and come ashore as a Cat 2. Other models are shifting the storm West. Weatherbell thinks the track could shift West as well, hitting eastern Long Island hard.

Posted on: 2021/8/20 15:59
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Re: Do not vaccinate your children!
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So does this not prove that the vaccine does what it's supposed to do, reduce severe illness, hospitalizations, and deaths? Nobody guaranteed it would 100% protect you from symptomatic infection. You're here on one hand trying to stir up anti-vax nonsense and on the other you're providing anecdotal evidence the vaccine works.


the vaccines were marketed as a need to get to "herd immunity" with only a small % of breakthrough cases. There is gaslighting now marketing them more as a therapeutic. What is the point of a healthy 20 something getting a vaccine, that may cause life threatening side effects, if they are going to get symptomatic & transmittable Covid anyway? Also, is it the vaccinations reducing the death rate or is Delta while more communicable, is just less likely to kill its host?

As for the evidence I am posting. 21 out of 60 vaccinated people getting full blown Covid is not anecdotal.. it's evidence that the long term efficacy of the Pfizer vaccine is in serious doubt. As for other items I have posted..

Evidence is that short term protections for those who have commodities is strong. The guys at Medcram put out hard evidence of this based on hospitalization rates for those with comorbidity and vaccinated vs. un-vaccinated. IMHO, you can make the argument that those at serious risk of death (obese, diabetic, elderly, immune compromised, etc.) the benefits of the vaccine outweigh the risk.

Forcing those who are 99.7%+ likely to recover just fine from Covid is the issue. Especially since the evidence that these vaccines are 'leaky', possibly causing antibody dependent enhancement, are actually making the Covid epidemic worse by enhancing the creation of variants. Israel and Iceland, where the populations were near full vaccination.

Posted on: 2021/8/10 17:45
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Variants are real. The billions of replications per infection is going to create mutations, most of which are duds. However, you get one that makes the virus more infectious.

My brother down in Florida had his samples sent to a lab and confirmed it was Delta.

This is where evolution comes in: Virus variants tend to evolve to be more infectious but less deadly. A virus that kills its host is less likely to spread.

This would explain why infections are up with Delta but the increase in deaths isn't rising at nearly the same rate.

On another update from my Mom's nursing home: Two more residents are infected, but 13 of the previous infections are considered to be recovering and will be taken out of isolation soon. No deaths...


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https://youtu.be/493pL_Vbtnc

Delta variant? or big pharma nonsense??

Posted on: 2021/8/10 14:59
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Update from the nursing home. Over 30% of the vaccinated (Pfizer) residents now have symptomatic COVID. No deaths so far, but only one resident is recovering.

No word what strain of COVID this is...

Posted on: 2021/8/9 14:40
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