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Two Boots: - On food trucks @ Grove St Plaza: "We need government intervention to save the restaurant market!" - On limits on franchises/chains: "Wait, no we DON'T need government intervention here. jk!"
Posted on: 2015/5/4 21:58
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So, are they doing Cinco De Mayo on Grove this year? Are they allowed to serve food and drinks, same as past years? If yes, will Two Boots be mad?
Posted on: 2015/5/4 21:49
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Cool my JC Listin' Peeps asny10011 and JCMan8...Yeah not sure JCMan8....I'll keep my ears open!
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Posted on: 2015/4/11 0:34
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I agree, but this discussion has been beaten to death in this thread. Candice Osbourne came here and agreed that the recent law effectively banning food trucks downtown was very problematic and needed reform. The other day someone made a comment that there would be a reading of a new "food truck ordinance" at the City Council meeting but I can't find any information on it. Is it the reform that Candice agreed we need? Will it allow food trucks back in the Grove Street Plaza? I can't tell and didn't see any articles.
Posted on: 2015/4/10 23:15
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I agree. I think more competition drives better menus and prices. Better for the consumer.
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Posted on: 2015/4/10 22:54
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Me Casa's food is delicious and the people that work there are all very friendly. I've taken my family there a few times and they've always loved it. Definitely recommend hitting it up. Haven't picked up anything from the truck yet though.
Posted on: 2015/4/10 22:50
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This here is a COMMUNITY! We all need each other! There is no monopoly on people's stomachs...what are we supposed to eat the same damn food everyday...come on...get real Jersey City! Holy crap!
Posted on: 2015/4/10 22:34
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I haven't tried the ME Casa truck food, but I have visited their restaurant many times and it is always delicious. I wish it was a little larger in there, and with better ventilation, but the chef is super friendly and accommodating, their food is delicious and plentiful, and their prices are very reasonable.
Posted on: 2015/4/9 16:30
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It's Me Casa, Incrediballs & Chopping Block that have been in the Heights on Fridays for the last two weeks. They're always in front of Palisade Liquors and at least last week, the Distillery Gallery opened up to let people sit in there and eat since it was raining.
Incrediballs lives up to its name, I haven't tried the other two. Also, El Chilango seems to now be in the Heights daily in front of Palisade Liquors.
Posted on: 2015/4/9 15:40
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Does anyone know what this was about?
Posted on: 2015/4/9 14:50
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First reading of Food Truck ordinance at City Council meeting tonight.
Posted on: 2015/4/8 19:55
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I know that they( trucks) want to come to Central ave, but they can only be by the park ( Pershing Field). Which is OK. If people want to use them they will walk to them like they would any other restaurant. The existing restaurants on Central avenue don't want them on the avenue. That is why the trucks you saw last night are by Riverview Park. The Hot Dog stand on Bower street & Central may get a reprieve because he has been there so long.
Posted on: 2015/3/28 15:04
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Looks like the Heights may be benefitting from all of this DTJC food truck nonsense. Last night I saw three of them parked up on a corner on Palisade Ave near Riverview Park. One was Incrediballs but I couldn't tell what the others were.
Sadly there wasn't a food truck in sight at the Friday night thing at Grove PATH. DTJC get your shit together. https://www.ij.org/food-truck-freedom.
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Posted on: 2015/3/24 1:37
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It is confusing where the City stand on food trucks.
Posted on Facebook: City of Jersey City Official Government Page Meet Morris, owner and chef behind the highly popular Taste of India food truck. Morris travels around Jersey City most weekdays feeding hungry office workers and residents alike. You can usually find him at Exchange Place. Morris has been a JC resident for over 30 years now. He both started and raised his family here. "A lot of new businesses are coming to Jersey City, and they're bringing a lot of new opportunities. I feel Jersey City is progressing a lot." Thanks for making Jersey City yours Morris! #JCMakeItYours https://www.facebook.com/JerseyCityNJ
Posted on: 2015/3/23 23:37
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Except their complaints are invalid and objectively wrong. No offense, but there's a reeeeaaaally good chance i've been in this area longer than you (25+ years). I remember when there were REALLY no/few dining options in the neighborhood - every single one of these places could close up shop tomorrow and there'd still be two dozen really good places you could go to in downtown. Especially the pizza places and the fast food joints. "If you had a business, you'd go to city hall to try and put other businesses out of work to protect you're own"? Cuz that's what you're saying, and that pretty much makes you a dick. They certainly are trying to make a living, as are all the other businesses in the area who aren't trying to make the neighborhood worse by driving an in-demand product away while making said living. You go to these places daily. Enjoy. My boycott has lasted since the moment this stuff became public knowledge, and insofar as the circle of friends I have outside this list, no one's gone to them either to my knowledge. So hey, maybe you can offset the dozen or so people including myself that I've influenced. Throw in the people here and elsewhere who are doing the same and I kinda doubt it.
Posted on: 2015/3/21 3:25
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You would know Phil, you own/run 3 businesses.
Posted on: 2015/3/20 20:14
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As well, lets not forget that the well liked restaurants in Jersey City - Taqueria and Kraverie for example, that started from food trucks. The Taqueria owner earlier in this thread has even welcomed food trucks to set up across the street from his business. To say that the current set up is preventing restaurants from opening is complete and total folly. This is a group of businesses, most of whom opened in Jersey City as the Market/Farmers Market/Food Truck scene already existed in its current form, who are trying to change the rules of the area that they decided to enter into.
Posted on: 2015/3/20 18:58
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This is a highly misleading statement. There is one "existing law" that is being enforced. It was only enacted in March of 2013, and the business owners who lobbied for the prepared foods ban would seem to have been instrumental in this law's passing, given how strongly they want to protect their profits. Further, it amounts to a defacto ban on food trucks downtown. It bans all trucks within a 300 foot radius of a brick and mortar restaurant. This is why food trucks have been effectively banned from the Grove St Plaza at all hours of the day, along with most of downtown. Maybe you didn't understand this, but this is also why Candice Osbourne came onto this thread and discussed how this protectionist law is completely unfair to food truck owners and needs to be reformed. Will this talk turn into action? Let's hope. Trust me, this isn't "histrionics" or a "minor league" issue to those food truck owners who could lose a substantial investment, many times made under the understanding they could operate in the Plaza and other high foot trafficked areas. This very recent special interest law prohibits them from doing so.
Posted on: 2015/3/20 18:41
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You fail to recognize that food truck owners are running a business. Yes, I understand that horse and buggy manufacturers were upset by the introduction of cars. And I'm sure they lobbied the government for protectionist laws too. This does not mean the cars manufacturers weren't also in a business.
Posted on: 2015/3/20 18:33
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Beat me to the punch. The detractors have no idea what it takes to run a business, and if they had an investment they would think differently. They have a consumers mentality, and I understand that, but there is the other side.
Posted on: 2015/3/20 18:19
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Then go Two Boots every day. I really don't care. If the food trucks are gone, I'll be fine too. If all the downtown restaurants fold, I will not care either. Whether it was ten people or 100 hundred bitching on JCList about the food trucks issue, peoples' opinions obviously meant something to Aaron Morrill or he wouldn't have made as many posts as he did. Furthermore, if I was a downtown business owner, I'd fight hard for my own business' interests too, but if I was opening up a restaurant and knew about the Farmers Market and food trucks being near my place, that would have some effect on whether I decided to open in the first place or how I would market my own business. Furthermore, you talk about a sense of entitlement coming across in these posts, maybe there is, but all these restaurants that came in after the outdoor market did clearly have some sense of entitlement too. They knew the market was there, and they shouldn't have opened up in the first place if they thought the market and trucks would be detrimental to their business. They should have just found a nice space off one of the I-78 exits, out toward Short Hills or something, where there would be no food trucks or outdoor markets whatsoever.
Posted on: 2015/3/20 18:17
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Ha, ha, ha! +1 The drama and histrionics in this thread are absolutely hilarious. And, yes, people are being totally and deliberately obtuse. Food trucks are NOT BEING BANNED. Existing laws that dictate how far they must position themselves with regards to existing restaurants, and for how long, are being enforced. Prepared foods are NOT BEING BANNED. The city has passed legislation stipulating what percentage of goods sold at a FARMERS MARKET must be sourced from a farm, as opposed to an operation solely selling prepared food. And, MOST IMPORTANTLY, this is only applicable if they want to use the title of FARMERS MARKET. If the organizers of the FARMERS MARKET wish to continue hosting a weekly "street food festival" they can do so. They just can't call it a FARMERS MARKET.
Posted on: 2015/3/20 17:27
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This is not complicated. The JC community wants and can support restaurants AND food trucks. There's no reason that either should be excluded from the Grove St area. JC is thriving and there are more food consumers entering the market every day. If a restaurant cannot exist in a market with food trucks, then another restaurant will step in and replace them.
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+100 If you have been on JC List for a while you can remember the whining (probably from the same people) about the lack of restaurant dining options downtown. The loss of business from the entitled few people on this blog won't make any difference when you you consider the number of new people moving into JC.
Posted on: 2015/3/20 17:13
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I have a feeling the ten people bitching about food trucks going away on JClist will have little to no effect on the restaurants that chose to voice their TOTALLY VALID complaints about the food court that was opening up twice a week. I occupied the farmers market as much as the restaurants and I would rather lose the farmers markets food trucks than lose the restaurants that actually made the effort to set up shop downtown. I don't know how anyone who has lived here more than a couple of years can be so quick to turn on restaurants that decided to invest in this area when we had very little to start with.
There is such a sense of entitlement coming across in these posts. If I had a business I busted my ass for I would be fighting for it too. Everyone complains about how long it takes to open a business here but when a brick and mortar store actually tries to- gee I don't know stay in business? - you can't wait to get your pitchforks over someone taking away your empanadas. A local business doesn't exist solely to cater to everyone's individual needs- they are trying to run a business and make a living too. I've never seen so many grown adults be deliberately obtuse over the differences between food trucks and running an actual restaurant. If anything this entire thread has made me want to go to Two Boots every day. I can't wait to see how long everyone's "boycott" lasts.
Posted on: 2015/3/20 16:47
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Well, maybe. Some restaurants mind, some don't. Increased foot traffic for an area can be good for business. If your restaurant is sub-par and could actually be endangered by food trucks, then yes, I could see why you'd care. But they'd be better served to improve their own service rather than try to take down others. IMO, putting the restaurants' preferences over the consumers/community is illogical. The community should drive the services that are provided, not simply one segment of the market. And how is it minor-league? Quote:
What are these same rules? Who defines what fair competition? I'd argue that denying the food truck access to public areas of the city is unfair on the other side. And again, the community wants the food trucks, so to me, the point should be moot. Also, food trucks operate on a different business model than restaurants, so I don't see why they should "play by exactly the same rules." They both can co-exist in the same area and consumers can choose what they want. What is wrong with that? As for professional etiquette, how has this been compromised? Please elaborate.
Posted on: 2015/3/20 16:10
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Maybe. They still have a food truck, too.
Posted on: 2015/3/20 15:57
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I?d wager that most fast-food restaurant owners would prefer some minor-league spite over a mobile food court regularly setting up shop outside their doors.
For most of us, competitors in our respective fields must all play by exactly the same rules. Unfortunately for others, the ideals of fair competition and professional etiquette aren?t for everybody.
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