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Re: Dinner with Bill Clinton in Jersey City - $2500.00
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No one is claiming that people are confused about who is president. My statement "improper use of protocol by the media has led to confusion among the populace" is meant to convey that people are confused about the proper way to address a former president. Are you really that dense?

And, yes, it is "only" etiquette and protocol, but these things do matter in some occasions.


Well, your last statement was vague, so thanks for clarifying.

How does this etiquette and protocol matter?

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No one is claiming that people are confused about who is president. My statement "improper use of protocol by the media has led to confusion among the populace" is meant to convey that people are confused about the proper way to address a former president. Are you really that dense?

And, yes, it is "only" etiquette and protocol, but these things do matter in some occasions.

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Actually, the proper protocol is for Bill Clinton to be referred to as "The Honorable William J. Clinton" or "The Honorable William Jefferson Clinton". In conversation, he should be referred to as "Mr. Clinton". If you wish to include a reference to his former status as president, you can add that after his name, like this: "42nd President of the United States" or "President of the United States, 1993 - 2001"

There is only one person that can hold the title of "Mr. President" at any one time, which is why it is improper to use the title when referring to former presidents. The same goes for Mayor, Governor, etc. Senators, Secretaries, Representatives, Assemblymen, etc. are titles held by many at any one time, at the same level, which is why it is OK to use those titles when referring to former holders (such as, Madame Secretary, when referring to Hillary Clinton.)

Unfortunately, improper use of protocol by the media has led to confusion among the populace.


Oh, so proper but.. confusion? Who is actually confused by this?

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Actually, the proper protocol is for Bill Clinton to be referred to as "The Honorable William J. Clinton" or "The Honorable William Jefferson Clinton". In conversation, he should be referred to as "Mr. Clinton". If you wish to include a reference to his former status as president, you can add that after his name, like this: "42nd President of the United States" or "President of the United States, 1993 - 2001"

There is only one person that can hold the title of "Mr. President" at any one time, which is why it is improper to use the title when referring to former presidents. The same goes for Mayor, Governor, etc. Senators, Secretaries, Representatives, Assemblymen, etc. are titles held by many at any one time, at the same level, which is why it is OK to use those titles when referring to former holders (such as, Madame Secretary, when referring to Hillary Clinton.)

Unfortunately, improper use of protocol by the media has led to confusion among the populace.


Former President XXX would also work...

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Actually, the proper protocol is for Bill Clinton to be referred to as "The Honorable William J. Clinton" or "The Honorable William Jefferson Clinton". In conversation, he should be referred to as "Mr. Clinton". If you wish to include a reference to his former status as president, you can add that after his name, like this: "42nd President of the United States" or "President of the United States, 1993 - 2001"

There is only one person that can hold the title of "Mr. President" at any one time, which is why it is improper to use the title when referring to former presidents. The same goes for Mayor, Governor, etc. Senators, Secretaries, Representatives, Assemblymen, etc. are titles held by many at any one time, at the same level, which is why it is OK to use those titles when referring to former holders (such as, Madame Secretary, when referring to Hillary Clinton.)

Unfortunately, improper use of protocol by the media has led to confusion among the populace.

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Conceptually it's up the populace to be on the elected officials ass at all times. If you want to leave your faith in the official checks and balances...good luck!

And again, I voted for fool-op you "wanker" lol. No gravy train for me brother. #imbriningeuropeback yeah!

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Checks and balances applies to structure of government - not grumpy wankers complaining because the new mayor put an end to their gravy train.

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Checks and balances applies to structure of government - not grumpy wankers complaining because the new mayor put an end to their gravy train.

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Hey Yoda,

I voted for Fool-op, so what's your point? It's called checks and balances, you fool. Whether you voted for Fool-op or not, criticism is healthy, it keeps our dumbass politicians in check, and keeps our even dumber voting population somewhat informed.

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Wow every healy supporter still bitter about getting trounced.

Stop hating and get real jobs !

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Wow every healy supporter still bitter about getting trounced.

Stop hating and get real jobs !

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I understood accepted protocol to be that former presidents continue to be addressed as President forever more.

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I understood accepted protocol to be that former presidents continue to be addressed as President forever more.

Robin.


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Once again the Fulop Team is pulling a fast one on us.

Mr. Bill Clinton is showing up for the Fulop 2017 fundraiser, not President Clinton.

If they can't get honorifics correct, how the hell do they expect to run a city.



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Will there be a cigar lounge available?

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How many are going and how is the fee divided up?

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I'm not going to debate on the possibility of 1 vs 2 terms, but without any significant campaign finance reform I think you'd be hard pressed to find any pol that isn't trying to replenish the war chest almost immediately once an election is over. It just happens that Fulop is pulling big names that make it newsworthy to help him along. That said I'd like to get a full 2 terms out of a mayor I support.

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The big question, does Kid Mayor abandon JC at the end of his first term or midway through the second?

Tick tock...


Yes.

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Good job Mayor Fool-op! You're rapidly on the Booker plan of getting big endorsements for your next career move!

The big question, does Kid Mayor abandon JC at the end of his first term or midway through the second?

Tick tock...

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I can't trust a politician unless I know he has cheated on his wife. Ted Kennedy drowned a woman he was allegedly going behind his wife on and yet he still fought for legislation to help make this country better.

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Wait, I remember the man! He was caught cheating on his wife with a 21-year-old, and then his posse smeared the girl, calling her whore, and the whole weight of the White House PR went in, and he let it happen.

What a mensch!

And no, 2500 is not enough. If he wants to dine with me, it should be at least 10K, I am not selling for less!


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Someone ask him if it's true he told Gennifer Flowers that Hilary had more women than he did.

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