mwa7368 wrote:
Ohhh ...let's keep track! 1 murder for Downtown 1 for the rest of JC.
Shall we see who's safer, who has a better quality of life which includes less foreclosures and less unemployment?
Don't forget this is "DOWNTOWN" JClist not "the rest of jersey city" jersey city list.
Make a good note of how the highway divides the regions of foreclosure very clearly.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/20 ... egion/0515-foreclose.html

Just because YOU believe doesn't make it so either.

JerseyCityNj wrote:
As far as Downtown being "way way way safer than any other area of the city", that is a fantasy. Yes Downtown is one of the safest. If you ventured west of the turnpike you would know. I have even showed stats on here showing how the Heights as a whole is safer then Downtown as a whole. The neighborhoods I would say are the safest are the Western Slope, The area of West Side west of Mallory, Society Hill, Country Village, the Island neighborhood and the neighborhood east of Caven Point along Chapel as well as scattered pockets.

Greenvillechick wrote:
are you retarded.?.. where did I say shooting them was innocent and fun?, I said what they were doing was innocent - not dealing drugs, or sitting outside crip walking or whatever it is you people think they "were" doing... They went to the waterfront, to chill with their friends after the prom... maybe were drinking (big deal) Their was an argument that turned bad (NOT INNOCENT) and I said blame the SHOOTEE not the kids who were shot.... they DIDNT EVEN KNOW THE DUDE!

Greenvillechick wrote:
I actually happened to be in the ER room with the guy who got shot in the ankle, he was in the room next to us and since it's only a curtain seperating the rooms... you can hear everything... it was actually innocent fun, kids went down to the waterfront after the prom... an argument ensued and someone popped off..... No drugs involved.... maybe alcohol... and definately not gang related... See how easy you can judge a situation? Dont blame the ones who got shot... blame the shootee.... people rarely fight with fists anymore...

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As long as the drug dealing under achievers keep killing each other we all win, it's when they start killing productive members of society is when it's a real shame. These guys were not from that area, there is no way I believe that. You can't control where the trash migrates but the fact is that while downtown doesn't have a force-field and coffees shops do not deter crime, it's way way way way safer than any other area of this city. In a huge metropolis you can live in the safest area and still have crime look at manhattan, any given night anywhere in the city you can have a beatings rapes and shootings even in the areas where a 2 bedroom condo costs 3X what it does on the JC waterfront.
Not that I don't think Healy is full of S#$% and we need more cops and smarter enforcement.

I never understand how people always assume they cant be from Downtown. Never mind the fact the 20+ story building on Montgomery between Warren and Washington has many teenagers and is only a few blocks away. Don't forget all the apartments west of Jersey all the way to Ferris full of teens as well and you can't believe there not from Downtown because of what? Because some one from Downtown couldn't possibly get shot at?

As far as Downtown being "way way way safer than any other area of the city", that is a fantasy. Yes Downtown is one of the safest. If you ventured west of the turnpike you would know. I have even showed stats on here showing how the Heights as a whole is safer then Downtown as a whole. The neighborhoods I would say are the safest are the Western Slope, The area of West Side west of Mallory, Society Hill, Country Village, the Island neighborhood and the neighborhood east of Caven Point along Chapel as well as scattered pockets.

If I was raising a family in JC the safest place I can think of is in one of the luxury towers Downtown, other than that I would never even consider raising a family here, because although I believe downtown to be the safest no matter how much the people outside of downtown whine that the other parts of JC are safer the fact is they don't even approach being decent place to live in my book, your right that downtown is generally dumpy and dangerous too! I am trapped in a mortgage that is worth less than my apartment and when that changes I am on the first PATH train outta here.

Just because you believe that doesn't make it true. By the way I grew up in Downtown and still think it is a nice place I am just trying to shed light on these Downtown myths that seem to be around.

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mwa7368 wrote:
As long as the drug dealing under achievers keep killing each other we all win, it's when they start killing productive members of society is when it's a real shame. These guys were not from that area, there is no way I believe that. You can't control where the trash migrates but the fact is that while downtown doesn't have a force-field and coffees shops do not deter crime, it's way way way way safer than any other area of this city. In a huge metropolis you can live in the safest area and still have crime look at manhattan, any given night anywhere in the city you can have a beatings rapes and shootings even in the areas where a 2 bedroom condo costs 3X what it does on the JC waterfront.
Not that I don't think Healy is full of S#$% and we need more cops and smarter enforcement.

I never understand how people always assume they cant be from Downtown. Never mind the fact the 20+ story building on Montgomery between Warren and Washington has many teenagers and is only a few blocks away. Don't forget all the apartments west of Jersey all the way to Ferris full of teens as well and you can't believe there not from Downtown because of what? Because some one from Downtown couldn't possibly get shot at?

As far as Downtown being "way way way safer than any other area of the city", that is a fantasy. Yes Downtown is one of the safest. If you ventured west of the turnpike you would know. I have even showed stats on here showing how the Heights as a whole is safer then Downtown as a whole. The neighborhoods I would say are the safest are the Western Slope, The area of West Side west of Mallory, Society Hill, Country Village, the Island neighborhood and the neighborhood east of Caven Point along Chapel as well as scattered pockets.

If I was raising a family in JC the safest place I can think of is in one of the luxury towers Downtown, other than that I would never even consider raising a family here, because although I believe downtown to be the safest no matter how much the people outside of downtown whine that the other parts of JC are safer the fact is they don't even approach being decent place to live in my book, your right that downtown is generally dumpy and dangerous too! I am trapped in a mortgage that is worth less than my apartment and when that changes I am on the first PATH train outta here.

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mwa7368 wrote:
As long as the drug dealing under achievers keep killing each other we all win, it's when they start killing productive members of society is when it's a real shame. These guys were not from that area, there is no way I believe that. You can't control where the trash migrates but the fact is that while downtown doesn't have a force-field and coffees shops do not deter crime, it's way way way way safer than any other area of this city. In a huge metropolis you can live in the safest area and still have crime look at manhattan, any given night anywhere in the city you can have a beatings rapes and shootings even in the areas where a 2 bedroom condo costs 3X what it does on the JC waterfront.
Not that I don't think Healy is full of S#$% and we need more cops and smarter enforcement.

I never understand how people always assume they cant be from Downtown. Never mind the fact the 20+ story building on Montgomery between Warren and Washington has many teenagers and is only a few blocks away. Don't forget all the apartments west of Jersey all the way to Ferris full of teens as well and you can't believe there not from Downtown because of what? Because some one from Downtown couldn't possibly get shot at?

As far as Downtown being "way way way safer than any other area of the city", that is a fantasy. Yes Downtown is one of the safest. If you ventured west of the turnpike you would know. I have even showed stats on here showing how the Heights as a whole is safer then Downtown as a whole. The neighborhoods I would say are the safest are the Western Slope, The area of West Side west of Mallory, Society Hill, Country Village, the Island neighborhood and the neighborhood east of Caven Point along Chapel as well as scattered pockets.

mwa7368 wrote:
As long as the drug dealing under achievers keep killing each other we all win, it's when they start killing productive members of society is when it's a real shame. These guys were not from that area, there is no way I believe that. You can't control where the trash migrates but the fact is that while downtown doesn't have a force-field and coffees shops do not deter crime, it's way way way way safer than any other area of this city. In a huge metropolis you can live in the safest area and still have crime look at manhattan, any given night anywhere in the city you can have a beatings rapes and shootings even in the areas where a 2 bedroom condo costs 3X what it does on the JC waterfront.
Not that I don't think Healy is full of S#$% and we need more cops and smarter enforcement.

dmark526 wrote:
Yet another violent crime in downtown. It just goes to show that JC is JC and that it doesn't matter where you live in this city. The JC lifers already know this. That is if there are any of us left!!!

smp9778 wrote:
Alcohol related? Umm... I am thinking it was gang-related. The gun managed to go off six times. It wasn't a single accidental bullet. I am guessing somebody went looking for this guy to shoot him up.

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That street (the dead-end toward the river, between 70 and 90 Hudson Street) is a very popular place for teenagers (i.e. not locals from downtown JC) to "park" on Friday/Saturday nights. Mostly I see a lot of couples but occasionally there are big groups of teenagers.

Previously I figured they were all too busy making out and having sex to really create any problems... I guess I was wrong.

If the police would just assign 1-2 officers to the Exchange Place/Paulus Hook area on Friday/Saturday nights to walk the waterfront, the light rail stations (for the "after mall" crowd headed back to the West Side and Bayonne), it would really go a long way.

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19 and 20 years of age + 2am + living in Exchange Place = Drug related crime.

Just how many 19 / 20 yr olds can afford Exchange Place ?

Bayside Terrace is in Greenville, and Montgomery is a long street. I doubt they were downtowners, as I also doubt that he didn't see and know the shooter, when the gunman was close enough to put 6 into a kid. These guys ain't no Annie Oakleys.

"No snitchin, yo". Gotta admire a man with 6 holes in him who sticks to his code. At least there were no collateral casualties of this youthful horseplay with America's favorite toys.

Two Jersey City men were shot just after 2 a.m. Saturday at Exchange Place, by the entrance to 90 Hudson St. on the Jersey City waterfront, leaving one in critical condition and one in stable condition, police said.

fat-ass-bike wrote:
19 and 20 years of age + 2am + living in Exchange Place = Drug related crime.

Just how many 19 / 20 yr olds can afford Exchange Place ?