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Re: Teens, ages 13 and 15, shot early Sunday morning in JC (3:00 am)
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Without a doubt, the most ignored and flaunted law in Jersey City must be the the curfew law.

The parents of this kids should be issued a warning (or, fined if they have previously been issued a warning) in accordance with the law. Of course, this law might as well not exist, as it is NEVER enforced.

https://www.municode.com/library/nj/je ... ordinances?nodeId=CH137CU


The reality is curfew is just a feel good law it doesn't actually work. It would tie up way too many resources if it was enforced the way most people would like that are for it.


You could make that argument for almost every law on the books that deals with petty crime, or other QoL crimes. And, yet, that's part of living in a civilized society.

What are the resources necessary to enforce the law? As it is written, a cop that sees a minor out at night in violation of the curfew is supposed to pick up said minor and drop him off at the curfew center. I fail to see how that's "too many resources". What are we supposed to do then? Throw up our collective arms and turn a blind eye to crimes unless they are serious enough?




Well first it requires cops to question all suspected minors to find out their age, why they are outside and where they live. Because all most of the kids have to say is this is my building or my neighbors building and they aren't in violation. They can also hang out with an 18 year old friend or family member and they are also exempt. Then you have the kids which are going to lie and say they are older or the older teens that really are old enough but don't have ID.

The kids that are truthful or known to police as underage after being questioned now have to be driven to Cator Ave (unless that was changed). While all this is taking place that means the police can not respond to real crime like shootings, robberies, assaults etc. So now you are taking police away from responding to calls of real crimes in progress and playing baby sitter.

Now here is the part of that law that for some reason doesn't show up on the link you posted unless that was changed but I have a feeling it is in the letters D through F are listed as "reserved" in the exceptions section. A teen isn't violating curfew if it isn't a school night. So technically these kids aren't breaking curfew since school isn't in session on Sunday.

Remember also it isn't as hard as you think to get the fines waved if someone is too poor to pay. So now you just wasted time making police question everyone that LOOKS 16 or younger and they have to be driven to Cator Ave no matter what part of the city the child was found. Another officer has to make sure the child and parent is counseled after waiting how ever long it takes for them to show up at the location. Then the parent/guardian has to see a judge and can simply ask to get any fine waved if they can't afford to pay it. If the center is full a kid can just lie and give a fake school, name and address since that means the kid is just sent home.

So tell me how exactly does this law help? Keep in mind juveniles are statistically more likely to commit a crime or be a victim of crime earlier in the day.

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Re: A violent 36 hours in Jersey City: 5 shot and 8 arrested during gun investigations
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What I find interesting is as the nonfatal shootings keep increasing you hear less and less about the Cease Fire Unit that was supposed to have the opposite effect. It is almost like they try to mention this Unit as little as possible to not draw attention to how ineffective they have been.

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Re: Teens, ages 13 and 15, shot early Sunday morning in JC (3:00 am)
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Without a doubt, the most ignored and flaunted law in Jersey City must be the the curfew law.

The parents of this kids should be issued a warning (or, fined if they have previously been issued a warning) in accordance with the law. Of course, this law might as well not exist, as it is NEVER enforced.

https://www.municode.com/library/nj/je ... ordinances?nodeId=CH137CU


The reality is curfew is just a feel good law it doesn't actually work. It would tie up way too many resources if it was enforced the way most people would like that are for it.

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A violent 36 hours in Jersey City: 5 shot and 8 arrested during gun investigations
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By Caitlin Mota | The Jersey Journal
on March 26, 2017 at 6:41 PM, updated March 26, 2017 at 6:50 PM

JERSEY CITY -- In a violent 36 hours this weekend, five people were shot and eight men were arrested while police attempt to crack down on gun and drug issues plaguing parts of the city.

Two of the people shot this weekend were critically injured while police recovered five guns, city spokeswoman Jennifer Morrill said.

At about 6:30 p.m. on Friday, a 25-year-old man was shot in the chest while sitting in his car on Woodward Street. The victim, a Fremont Street resident, was brought to Jersey City Medical Center by his girlfriend and two days later remains in critical condition, Morrill said.

Then just after midnight on Saturday a 28-year-old man was shot in the buttocks on Wilkinson Avenue near Ocean Avenue. He was treated for non life threatening injuries at JCMC, she said.

Less than an hour later a 20-year-old Maple Street man was shot in the ankle on Grand Street near Communipaw Avenue. His injuries were not considered life threatening and the victim was "extremely uncooperative" with police, she said.

Sometime Saturday morning Street Crimes units arrested 19-year-old Jahi Akbar Beatty, of Grant Avenue, on open warrants. Authorities found him carrying a loaded Taurus 738 handgun and additionally charged him with multiple weapons offenses, Morrill said.

Throughout Saturday afternoon, Street Crimes units were investigating a home on Wade Street and recovered three loaded handguns - including a revolver with hallow point bullets - and a "large quantity of" heroin, cocaine, and crack cocaine, officials said.

Jeffrey Miller, 52, Peter Adams, 51, both of Wade Street, and Richard Smith, 43, were all charged with two counts of unlawful possession of a weapon, certain persons not to possess a weapon, a drug distribution. Marvin Johnson, 43, was charged with a single count of possession of a weapon in addition to other drug and gun charges, Morrill said.

Two other men, Abdin Reed, 43, of Stegman Terrace, and Farrakhan Williams, 37, of West Side Avenue, were charged with several drug offenses during the same investigation Morrill said.

Then at about 10 p.m. on Saturday, police were called to Bostwick Avenue and Martin Luther King Drive on reports of a man carrying a gun. Authorities found 19-year-old Gregory Matthews, of Wilkinson Avenue, carrying a loaded semi automatic handgun and drugs.

At about 3 a.m. Sunday, gunfire erupted again on Ocean Avenue between Wegman Parkway and Bidwell Avenue. A 13-year-old was critically injured and a 15-year-old suffered a not life threatening injury to his ankle.

When asked about the shootings at an event on Sunday, Mayor Steve Fulop - specifically pointing to the gunfire that injured the teens - called the incident "very concerning" and said the city is "being aggressive" with the investigation.

"It's a multifaceted issue," Fulop said. "Anytime someone is shot it's really a, I mean it's a troubling situation and we take it very seriously. Know we're doing our best to solve it."

New Jersey's three biggest cities struggling with gun violence this weekend, with more than a dozen people shot in Newark, Jersey City, and Paterson.

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... r.html#incart_2box_hudson

Posted on: 3/26 19:34
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Man found with 17 bags of crack cocaine after he was shot in Jersey City (Downtown)
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By Ron Zeitlinger | The Jersey Journal
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on March 24, 2017 at 6:46 PM, updated March 24, 2017 at 6:47 PM

A man was shot inside a courtyard at a Jersey City public housing complex late Thursday and he was arrested when police found he was carrying more than a dozen bags of crack cocaine, authorities said.

The 37-year-old man, whose name was not released by police, was listed in stable condition at the Jersey City Medical Center, Jersey City spokeswoman Jennifer Morrill said.

The man, who was shot at the Holland Gardens housing complex, was found with 17 bags of the drug, Morrill said. He was charged with two counts of possession of CDS, possession with intent to distribute, possession with intent to distribute within 1000 feet of a school and within 500 feet of public housing.

Posted on: 3/24 18:59
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Re: Wow - LSC's Updated Plans for SciTech Scity
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In a perverse kinda way, the fact that the schools suck so bad here means that anyone with kids who can afford to move to the burbs does just that, unless they can afford private school. I'm not even sure what JC HS is local to Newport-where do those kids go?

Newport kids would go to Ferris unless they joined a magnet program to get into one of the other public high schools (if that still exist).

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Jersey City sees 3 shootings in less than 24 hours (Heights and Greenville)
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By Caitlin Mota | The Jersey Journal
on March 20, 2017 at 12:28 PM, updated March 20, 2017 at 3:45 PM

JERSEY CITY -- A 19-year-old man was injured in one of three shootings reported in less than 24 hours this weekend, officials said.

Two of the shootings occurred in broad daylight.

The first incident was reported at about 9:30 p.m. Friday in Curries Woods. No one was injured by the gunfire, but a home on New Heckman Drive was hit by a bullet, city spokeswoman Jennifer Morrill said.

On Saturday afternoon, the 19-year-old was grazed in the head by a bullet on Neptune Avenue near Old Bergen Road at about 2 p.m. He was brought to Jersey City Medical Center for treatment and was "uncooperative" with police, she said.

About two and a half hours later, gunfire erupted in the Heights near New York Avenue and Franklin Street. Morrill said the shots fired stemmed from a "feud between two acquaintances."

No one was injured in the shooting, and no property damage was reported. An arrest warrant was issued for the alleged gunman, Morrill said.


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Re: Buying to live in Bergen-Lafayette a good idea?
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Even though it's in the same area I personally always liked the area North of Bramhall where Madison, Clinton and Baby Monticello make the little loop around. Those blocks always felt like they were cut off from the surrounding drama near by.

Posted on: 3/20 17:27
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Re: Jersey City man charged with trying to stab resident during burglary (Downtown)
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Turn him over to ICE


If you search his court records online it says he was born in NJ. It also says he has five prior burglary charges and just started probation in January for one of those charges.

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Re: Jersey City man charged with trying to stab resident during burglary (Downtown)
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WtH, 100 Columbus Dr is Grove Pointe.


"100 block" pretty much means any address between 100-199. If I had to guess he is most likely from Columbus between Barrow and Jersey. The apartments on that block still fall under "100 block".

Posted on: 3/20 12:13
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Jersey City man charged with trying to stab resident during burglary (Downtown)
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By Michaelangelo Conte | The Jersey Journal
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on March 18, 2017 at 9:13 AM, updated March 18, 2017 at 9:19 AM


JERSEY CITY - A 28-year-old Jersey City man is charged with burglarizing two Downtown residences and attempting to stab one resident with a screwdriver while fleeing.

Victor Vargas, of the 100 block of Christopher Columbus Drive, is charged with burglarizing a Bay Street apartment and a Grove Street apartment on Wednesday before running from police who took him into custody, the criminal complaint says.

Vargas is also charged with aggravated assault for allegedly attempting to stab a resident while fleeing the Bay Street building, attempting enter two other apartments in the building and weapons offenses related to a screwdriver, the complaint says.

Vargas made his first appearance on the charges yesterday in Criminal Justice Reform Court in Jersey City via video link from Hudson County jail in Kearny.

At the hearing, the state moved to detain Vargas pending trial and a detention hearing will be held on Wednesday before Hudson County Superior Court Judge Paul DePascale.

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Re: Buying to live in Bergen-Lafayette a good idea?
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I would keep looking. You would be one block from the section 8 buildings on Lexington/Bergen and a couple blocks from the Salem Lafayette housing complex on MLK. Both are two of the worst locations for drugs, gangs and shootings in the city.

Posted on: 3/14 18:05
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Re: Bayonne man steals $3K bike in Jersey City burglary spree, cops say (Downtown)
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I know their have been bike theft topics in the past on here so maybe some of the people that have had their bikes stolen would want to check out the link to see his picture.

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... incart_river_mobile_index

He was arrested in NYC for stealing bike parts in the summer so he probably been at this for a while.

https://town-village.com/2016/08/10/po ... bery-in-union-square/amp/

His arrest is at the bottom.

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Bayonne man steals $3K bike in Jersey City burglary spree, cops say (Downtown)
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By Michaelangelo Conte | The Jersey Journal
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on March 09, 2017 at 9:52 AM, updated March 09, 2017 at 9:53 AM

JERSEY CITY -- A 31-year-old Bayonne man has been charged with three counts of burglary in Jersey City and stealing four bicycles, including one worth $3,000.

Anthony Dimonde, of the 100 block of Prospect Street, is charged with entering a gated parking garage on Dudley Street on Feb. 2 and stealing the $3,000 bicycle, the criminal complaint says.

He is also charged with entering a Van Vorst Street building on Feb. 11, entering a locked bicycle room and stealing two bicycles, the complaint says

He is additionally charged with entering a building on Christopher Columbus Drive on Feb. 17 and taking a mountain bike, according to the complaint, which also states this incident was captured on video.

Dimonde appeared in Criminal Justice Reform Court in Jersey City on Tuesday via video link from Hudson County jail in Kearny.

His next court appearance will be on May 2 before Hudson County Superior Court Judge Paul DePascale in the Hudson County Administration Building in Jersey City

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... incart_river_mobile_index

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Re: Woman Beaten After Confronting Teens at Hamilton Park
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You raise a lot of valid and interesting points. As a person with an almost uncanny familiarity with these type of situations, what would you propose as a solution?


I don't know if it is something their is a simple solution for. As much as the system is exploited by criminals it is put in place that way for a reason.

Law enforcement, prosecutors, politicians etc would have to sit down and look at it from all angles and see if their is a way to protect victims and witnesses better without taking away the rights of the accused.

A start at least as far as JC is concerned is to target gangs and gang violence. The biggest fear most people have is being shot for cooperating. If the gangs and violence goes unchecked even if crime over all is down it spreads the idea that gangs can do as they please and you can't be protected.

It should be done similar to how the Latin Kings were taken down in large sweeps back to back taking out a bulk of the membership so they don't get time to recover. It can not be only just the leadership targeted though because that will just create a power vacuum with the gangs splintering off and fighting for new leadership just like what is going on in Chicago. This would have to be done to multiple gang sets to keep one gang from taking over another's territory. This is something difficult to do especially now that we have the new bail reform law, the majority in these sweeps would just be released in days.That doesn't mean it wouldn't help just that it would have been far more effective if done before 2017.

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Re: Woman Beaten After Confronting Teens at Hamilton Park
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THIS STORY IS FISHY. 23-year old woman's parents are being interviewed? When was the last time you read about a 20+ victim's parents providing further details.


They went to question her at the ER, which is common with victims that require medical attention. Her parents were there and were told what happened and passed that on to police since she wouldn't. What part of that is fishy?

So if you got a call your 23 year daughter was in the emergency room after being attacked you wouldn't show up? They probably want someone to be arrested for this even if the daughter is scared. In the comments to this on the JJ website a commenter said the mom is even going as far as checking to see if any cameras in the area might have caught this on video.

Sounds like concerned parents that want justice to me.

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Re: Woman Beaten After Confronting Teens at Hamilton Park
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Absolutely...this is Jersey City, they tend to release suspected murderers back on the streets while awaiting trial. JCPD also couldn't give a shit, last thing they need is pushing paperwork for juvenile hood rats.


Throwing your hands up in the air and saying "This is [insert city name here]" only feeds systematic failure. Not cooperating with the police because you know your assailants and are afraid of retribution is one thing, not cooperating with the police because you think it's pointless is completely different. If you want a prosperous society, you can't turn a blind eye to injustice.

All though knowing the suspect makes it worst not all cases of failing to cooperate means they know the attacker. Maybe you are unaware but criminals receive all the information during discovery in a court case. They will know what you said, who you are, where you live etc. Not only that they will have it in writing so when they spread the word someone snitched they have the paperwork. That is why their is so much fear with cooperating.

Remember the case recently of a gang member outing those cooperating in a gang bust in JC on Facebook? He received the interview video during discovery from his lawyer and posted the video on his page to show proof who the snitches were and what they said.


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Re: Woman Beaten After Confronting Teens at Hamilton Park
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Victim refuses to talk to police ... victim / witnesses that most likely called police, can't identify assailants that were apprehended by police only a few minutes later ... Her skateboard and cell phone stolen ... more to this story then just a 'good samaritan' coming to the rescue ... what happen to the 'person's' she was rescuing ? Sounds all like crap to me.


I really don't see what part of this sounds "like crap". If anything your unanswered questions might come down to you are reading an article from the JJ which is notorious for leaving out details or mixing them up.

She had a skateboard correct? Is it that far fetched she was heading home after leaving the Oaks skate park a few blocks West and saw some kids being harassed that were skating with her earlier? Her being a female she might of wrongly assumed if she stands up for them no harm would come to her because she is a girl.

Also she is the victim and couldn't have called the police because they stole her phone remember? Besides she didn't want to cooperate so I doubt she would of if she had one. As for the witness not being able to identify them that isn't uncommon at all. She/he reported six kids and police find four with no stolen items. It was night time the witness could have seen this from a distance and honestly not be able to positively identify the kids they stopped with 100 percent certainty. The fact they were found ten blocks away also gave them enough time to ditch any clothing that would make them stand out it like a sweatshirt, hoodie, hat etc.

I'm sure if she cooperated no one would be saying this story sounds weird to them.

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Re: Woman Beaten After Confronting Teens at Hamilton Park
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I hate to be a person that passes judgement, but on the surface this story has too many holes.

She confronts them, gets attacked by them, can't identify them and won't cooperate with police? If the story truly is authentic, i hope she isn't seriously hurt or permanently traumatized.

Some people, especially young people are scared of the retaliation associated with the label of being a snitch.

Think about it these are teens if she did cooperate how much punishment you really think they would get? They would be out on the street in no time spreading the word she is a snitch and looking to harm her...again.


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Three shot and one stabbed Sunday
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2 injured in daytime shooting in Jersey City, sources say

By Caitlin Mota | The Jersey Journal
on February 27, 2017 at 8:12 AM

Two people were injured in a shooting yesterday afternoon, officials said.

The shooting was reported near Ocean and Winfield avenues at about 3:30 p.m., city spokeswoman Jennifer Morrill said.

Both victims, one a 16-year-old boy, were brought to Jersey City Medical Center to be treated for their injuries, which were not considered life threatening, Morrill said.

The shooting was the second in Jersey City yesterday. At about 1:30 a.m., a 27-year-old in a car was shot on Randolph Avenue.

http://www.nj.com/jjournal-news/index ... incart_river_mobile_index


Man shot in the back in Jersey City, police say

By Caitlin Mota | The Jersey Journal
on February 26, 2017 at 7:16 PM, updated February 26, 2017 at 7:57 PM

JERSEY CITY -- A 27-year-old man sitting in a car was shot early Sunday morning, officials said.

The shooting was reported at about 1:30 a.m. on Randolph Avenue, city spokeswoman Jennifer Morrill said.

The victim, an Orient Avenue resident, suffered a gunshot wound to his back and his injuries were not considered life threatening, Morrill said. Multiple sources said a child was in the car at the time of the shooting.

Photos taken by Jersey Journal freelance photographer Joe Shine show a red car --which appears to have stopped on Communipaw Avenue after the shooting -- with multiple bullet holes. The back window was shattered in the gunfire.

No one was arrested and the shooting remains under investigation.

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... incart_river_mobile_index


Man stabbed 8 times, car windows shattered in Jersey City bar fight: cops

By Caitlin Mota | The Jersey Journal
on February 27, 2017 at 7:38 AM

A 31-year-old man was seriously injured and several cars were damaged when an early morning bar fight spewed into the streets yesterday, police said.

Police were initially called to the intersection near Jordan Avenue and Mercer Street at about 3:30 a.m. because someone was smashing car windows with a baseball bat, according to a police report.

The officers found six cars at the intersection and a large group of people arguing near a social club in the neighborhood, the report states.

The owner of the social club said the victim, a Bartholdi Avenue resident, had an argument with another patron at the bar shortly before police were called.

The suspect hit the victim in the head with a cue ball from the pool table, police said.

Both men were escorted out of the bar. People inside the bar then heard glass shattering and yelling coming from outside.

A witness outside, a 41-year-old man, said the two men were fighting each other in the street and he stepped in to separate them.

One of the men bit the 41-year-old in the cheek and hit him in the head. By the time police had arrived, both men were gone, the report states.

The windows of two cars were smashed in the fight, police said.

Blood stained the furniture and floors inside the club, but police described the scene as being "contaminated" because workers had already begun cleaning the building, the report states.

A short time later, the victim arrived at Jersey City Medical Center with five stab wounds to the back and three stab wounds to his chest.

He was rushed into surgery and was listed in critical condition, police said.
The victim's brother told police the 31-year-old drove to his house on Van Nostrand Avenue after he was stabbed. He then drove his brother to the hospital and police found blood stains in his red truck, the report states.

No arrests have been made in connection with the stabbing. The 41-year-old witness refused medical attention.

http://www.nj.com/jjournal-news/index ... incart_river_mobile_index

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Re: 3 JC Shootings in 9 Hours
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We haven't been given a total number of victims yet for 2016 but it is higher than the previous years on record. I stopped keeping track in the summer when we passed the 2013 total.

The statistics for 2013 to 2015 are in the compstat page under the precinct stats on the black bar next to where it says "Links".

Funny thing, they haven't posted the 2016 numbers yet -- and 2013-2015 is actually fairly low

2013 = 107 shootings, 17 fatal
2014 = 86 shootings, 18 fatal
2015 = 101 shootings, 17 fatal

We also know that the number of homicides actually fell from 2015 to 2016:

2013 = 20 homicides
2014 = 23
2015 = 32
2016 = 29

And again... 2 months is not enough time to declare there's a pattern. If you look at actual rates, you see period spikes (e.g. summer 2014) that drop off quickly (fall 2014), and several months with almost no shootings (9/13, 2/14, 12/14, 2/15).

You really like to downplay the numbers and constantly bring up homicides. By the way you have the wrong statistics for homicides in JC. Even if you posted the true stats you would be right we had a couple less last year compared to the previous year but 2015 had 17 shot dead and last year 19 were. Also like I keep telling you I am talking about shootings and no other crimes.

You are also right two months isn't enough time to declare a pattern but two years is. Even if we have no shootings until spring it doesn't change the fact we have had the amount of shooting victims in two months we normally see in four.

Also if you compared the stats to other cities in NJ our numbers might be low but NJ also has some of the most violent cities in the country. It might be fairer to compare it to the worst parts of NYC.



http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/n ... ootings-article-1.1081741

January to May 13th the worst Precincts in NYC

48th Precinct: 26 shootings (Fordham and West Farms)
40th Precinct: 23 shootings (Mott Haven and Melrose)
113th Precinct: 21 shootings (Jamaica, Springfield Gardens, Hollis and St Albans)
75th Precinct: 28 shootings (East New York)
67th Precinct: 29 shootings (East Flatbush)

Jersey City has had 30 plus shootings so far. Still think the numbers are low?





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Re: 3 JC Shootings in 9 Hours
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Is there an area on the site where I can look up stats for my neighborhood? I personally don't care about the stats in Greenville.

Almost a dozen of the shootings so far this year weren't in Greenville. Two were Downtown just not in a gentrified part.

You can look up crime broken down by Precinct but not neighborhood in the link I gave.

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Re: 3 JC Shootings in 9 Hours
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This is what I pointed out a couple days ago. The number of shootings has increased the last two previous years and so far this year the total is high for this time of year.

At this moment we have had at least 31 known shootings with 23 victims. In previous years we have had exactly 23 shootings between January and April. We have had the amount of shootings in less than 2 months we normally have in four and February still isn't over.


Can you source this, please? I'm not sure where to look. Thanks.


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We haven't been given a total number of victims yet for 2016 but it is higher than the previous years on record. I stopped keeping track in the summer when we passed the 2013 total.

The statistics for 2013 to 2015 are in the compstat page under the precinct stats on the black bar next to where it says "Links".
http://www.njjcpd.org/node/5

For the number of shootings so far you can check the map in the article you posted.

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Re: 3 JC Shootings in 9 Hours
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This is what I pointed out a couple days ago. The number of shootings has increased the last two previous years and so far this year the total is high for this time of year.

At this moment we have had at least 31 known shootings with 23 victims. In previous years we have had exactly 23 shootings between January and April. We have had the amount of shootings in less than 2 months we normally have in four and February still isn't over.

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No.

Or to be more precise, it's not particularly meaningful.

For example, if you look at the report, you'll see that there was a relatively high number of shootings in January 2014, but overall 2014 had fewer shootings than 2013 or 2015.

Criminals do not have weekly or monthly quotas for shootings. It is more random in nature, so you can easily have a big clump in one month, and then two months with far less crime. Since we notice negative events far more than the lack of negative events, and since our perceptions of crime are way out of whack with the reality, we ought to resist the attempt to discover patterns when there just isn't enough data.

It's also not clear if there were fewer assaults with other weapons during the same period of time. And again, the number of homicides hasn't changed.

The reality is that we don't have enough data to claim that there is any sort of real trend.
Yes I get that numbers fluctuate from month to month but you seem to completely ignore that I stated our total at this moment has surpassed the combined totals of January to March of previous years. To give you an even better idea of how high this is so early in the year, January to April has had an exact total of 23 shooting victims during those four months between the years of 2013 to 2015. We are currently at 20 victims with a week still left in this month.

Also I don't know why you bring up assaults with other weapons and homicides (again) after I made it clear I am talking only about shootings and shooting victims.




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When was that, exactly?

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This chart only shows non-fatal shooting incidents which led to one or more victims and doesn't calculate shootings with out a victim (which were up), complete number of victims of a non-fatal shooting (which were up) and fatal shootings (which were up). So 2016 had 80 non-fatal shootings and 19 fatal shootings the total number of victims is unknown until they update it. When I was keeping track I can tell you we surpassed the total number victims in 2013 (the highest total available) in the summer of 2016.


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In case you missed it, the past few winters were terrible -- cold temperatures and lots of snow.

And this year? One snowstorm that was cleared up quickly, and warm temperatures hitting 60 this past week. Given that winter weather tends to have a mild suppressive effect on crime, it's not a huge surprise that the numbers were up slightly.

More importantly is that again, this is nowhere near enough data to reliably detect any kind of trend, or draw any valid conclusions.


I agree weather can play a role, and with a week left and the next few days hitting above 60 it raises the likely hood of more shootings. You are kind of making my point for me.

Posted on: 2/21 17:49
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Re: 4 injured in 3 separate Jersey City weekend shootings
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Their is a map in the link. JC already has at least 26 shootings so far with 20 victims, 17 are non-fatal and 3 are fatal. This is alot for the coldest months of the year that usually see much less then warmer months. According to statistics available going back to 2013 the highest number recorded was 11 victims total for January and February. Keep in mind 2016 had more total victims then 2013 to 2015 but last year their were very few shootings at all in the winter.

You sure about that? From COMPSTAT:

Jan 2012: 1 homicide
Jan 2013: 1
Jan 2014: 1
Jan 2015: 1
Jan 2016: 1
Feb 2012: 2
Feb 2013: 1
Feb 2014: 0
Feb 2015: 0
Feb 2016: 3

3 homicides for Jan and Feb is not exactly an outlier. In fact, it's the same as last year.

I realize there is a tendency to find evidence of disastrous escalation of crime rates under every rock, but crime doesn't quite work that way. It's irregular and periodic, and not all that uncommon to have a clump of violent crimes, followed by months of relatively low activity, that no one bothers to notice.

Let's wait at least 6 months before declaring some kind of trend, hmm?

Yes I am sure about that.

Jan 2013: Non-fatal Shootings 6 Fatal Shootings 1 = Victims 7
Feb 2013: Non-fatal Shootings 2 Fatal Shootings 1 = Victims 3

Jan 2014: Non-fatal Shootings 8 Fatal Shootings 1 = Victims 10
Feb 2014: Non-fatal Shootings 1 Fatal Shootings 0 = Victims 1

Jan 2015: Non-fatal Shootings 3 Fatal Shootings 0 = Victims 5
Feb 2015: Non-fatal Shootings 1 Fatal Shootings 0 = Victims 1



Now 2016 hasn't been updated to the statistics yet but 9 more victims then the available years to compare it to seems like more than usual or more than a slight increase no?

I was pointing out actual shootings going up not homicides. Of the 4 homicides you brought up from 2016 only two of them were shooting victims. I don't know if you are aware but shootings have went up two years in a row and I was just pointing out 20 victims being unusually high in less then two months during the coldest time of the year. If I included January to March this year has already passed the total for those three months in previous years.



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Re: 4 injured in 3 separate Jersey City weekend shootings
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Their is a map in the link. JC already has at least 26 shootings so far with 20 victims, 17 are non-fatal and 3 are fatal. This is alot for the coldest months of the year that usually see much less then warmer months. According to statistics available going back to 2013 the highest number recorded was 11 victims total for January and February. Keep in mind 2016 had more total victims then 2013 to 2015 but last year their were very few shootings at all in the winter.

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4 injured in 3 separate Jersey City weekend shootings
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By Caitlin Mota | The Jersey Journal
on February 20, 2017 at 6:15 PM

JERSEY CITY -- Four people were injured in three separate shootings in Jersey City over the weekend, officials said.

The three shootings all occurred within 18 hours, city spokeswoman Jennifer Morrill said.

At about 11:50 p.m. on Saturday, a 31-year-old man was shot in the chest on Martin Luther King Drive near Woodlawn Avenue. He was brought to Jersey City Medical Center where he remains in critical condition, Morrill said.

Then at about 1 a.m. a 42-year-old man was shot in the hip and ankle near Rutgers Avenue and Wade Street. His injuries were not considered life threatening, she said.

Sunday evening, a man and woman were shot on Bergen Avenue near the Clendenny Avenue intersection.

The victims, a 23-year-old Bergen Avenue man and a 21-year-old Duncan Avenue woman, were treated for their injuries, which were not life threatening, Morrill said.

No one was arrested in any of the weekend shootings and the investigations are ongoing.

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... incart_river_mobile_index

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It is most likely someone targeting you or your neighbor. Someone is pissed at one of you.

Something I would be on the look out for if this was me is someone might be targeting your building for a burglary and is trying to see if they can get you to leave the front door open until new locks are installed. They may not want to be out in the open trying get into you building but if you leave the door open because the lock is damaged they have easier access to the apartments and don't have to worry about drawing attention if they can just walk right in the building.

It's most likely simple vandalism from someone angry at one of you but that is something I would consider also.

Posted on: 2/7 16:46
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Jersey City student shot a block from school, official says (PS #15)
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By Patrick Villanova | The Jersey Journal
on January 31, 2017 at 5:17 PM, updated January 31, 2017 at 5:36 PM

A Jersey City grammar school student suffered a gunshot wound while walking home about a block from the school, an official confirmed.

Maryann Dickar, the spokeswoman for the Jersey City Public Schools, said the student attends Whitney M. Young Jr. School 15 on Stegman Street, but did not have the student's age.

According to police radio transmissions, the student was shot in the calf near the corner of Wegman Parkway and Van Cleef Street -- about a block from the school.

The student then walked back to the school, where the authorities were alerted, Dickar said. The shooting appears to have been reported around 3:30 p.m.

Dickar directed further questions to the Jersey City Police Department. Jennifer Morrill, the Jersey City spokeswoman, could not be reached for comment on the shooting.

The condition of the student could not be immediately determined.

School 15 is attended by children in grades K through 8.

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... incart_river_mobile_index

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