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Just saw a shot of her tour bus sitting in a parking lot somewhere in JC on Channel 4. Can anyone confirm?

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Just saw a shot of her tour bus sitting in a parking lot somewhere in JC on Channel 4. Can anyone confirm?
I just saw her at the Star Bar.

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Cmon, you can't photoshop her and leave out the assault rifle! That's un-American!

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Just saw a shot of her tour bus sitting in a parking lot somewhere in JC on Channel 4. Can anyone confirm?
I just saw her at the Star Bar.

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Cmon, you can't photoshop her and leave out the assault rifle! That's un-American!

Here ya go.

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Now THAT'S the Sarah we know and love! Someone should make a life size cardboard cutout of that pic and do souvenir "you with Sarah" pictures in Times Square. She looks like she's lost a little weight in the miniskirt pic. Could the stress of being a pol/pundit who knows absolutely nothing about anything be taking it's toll or is she just buffing up for a Maxim spread?

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Cmon, you can't photoshop her and leave out the assault rifle! That's un-American!

Here ya go.

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Palin and Trump seen having Pizza together !

These two would make a great comedy act like dumb and dumber !

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Palin and Trump seen having Pizza together !

These two would make a great comedy act like dumb and dumber !


Try this, - look over this here thread on this fine message board. Think about it. Photoshopped pictures. It was not the most brilliant joke two years ago.

And this is the background that you chose for a "dumb and dumber" comment?

I understand that you disagree with their politics. However, this disagreement should not impair your ability to soberly evaluate things, no?

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I can only envisage Trump as a game show host 'wheel of fortune' and Palin as Vanna White !

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I can only envisage Trump as a game show host 'wheel of fortune' and Palin as Vanna White !


That may be.

However, you are aware that outside of that imaginary world they both have been quite successful in other endeavors, no?

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I can only envisage Trump as a game show host 'wheel of fortune' and Palin as Vanna White !


That may be.

However, you are aware that outside of that imaginary world they both have been quite successful in other endeavors, no?


In Trump's case his most successful endeavor was being born of Fred Trump.

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That may be.

However, you are aware that outside of that imaginary world they both have been quite successful in other endeavors, no?


Quite successful?

- Resigned before completing one term as governor of a state with a population slightly larger than Hudson County (Alaska would rank as the fourth most populous county in NJ if you could squeeze it in.)

- Failed spectacularly when cast in the role designed for her to pander to the far right and women. (Yes, the far right responded but as many women were repulsed as turned on by her.)

- Cashed in on her "brand" by allowing Fox to trot her out to spout uniformed inanities on a semi-regular basis.

I suppose there are people who equate the ability to accumulate money with success. She has accomplished surprisingly little for someone who occupies the amount of political and popular culture she does. I guess measuring her success depends on how you are defining her. If you look at her political career and assess her accomplishments, she comes up short. If you say she is a cultural figure, in the way Rush Limbaugh, Geraldo Rivera and Simon Cowell are, that's a different equation.

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In Trump\'s case his most successful endeavor was being born of Fred Trump.


Let's test this hypothesis, shall we?

Hmmm... But how? Oh! Here is an idea! Donald was not the only son of Fred's. Since his siblings shared equally in the "most successful endeavor" of his, they must have reached equally prominent results.

Which means, you should be able to give me their names without any googling.

Want to try?

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In Trump\'s case his most successful endeavor was being born of Fred Trump.


Let's test this hypothesis, shall we?

Hmmm... But how? Oh! Here is an idea! Donald was not the only son of Fred's. Since his siblings shared equally in the "most successful endeavor" of his, they must have reached equally prominent results.

Which means, you should be able to give me their names without any googling.

Want to try?


How does knowing someone's name make them "quite successful"? Conversely, if you haven't heard of them, are they not successful? You are kind of proving the point on Trump - at this point, he's becoming most famous for being famous.

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In Trump\'s case his most successful endeavor was being born of Fred Trump.


Let's test this hypothesis, shall we?

Hmmm... But how? Oh! Here is an idea! Donald was not the only son of Fred's. Since his siblings shared equally in the "most successful endeavor" of his, they must have reached equally prominent results.

Which means, you should be able to give me their names without any googling.

Want to try?


I know one. Marryanne Trump Barry - Federal Judge, Third Circuit.

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That may be.

However, you are aware that outside of that imaginary world they both have been quite successful in other endeavors, no?


Quite successful?

- Resigned before completing one term as governor of a state with a population slightly larger than Hudson County (Alaska would rank as the fourth most populous county in NJ if you could squeeze it in.)

- Failed spectacularly when cast in the role designed for her to pander to the far right and women. (Yes, the far right responded but as many women were repulsed as turned on by her.)

- Cashed in on her "brand" by allowing Fox to trot her out to spout uniformed inanities on a semi-regular basis.

I suppose there are people who equate the ability to accumulate money with success. She has accomplished surprisingly little for someone who occupies the amount of political and popular culture she does. I guess measuring her success depends on how you are defining her. If you look at her political career and assess her accomplishments, she comes up short. If you say she is a cultural figure, in the way Rush Limbaugh, Geraldo Rivera and Simon Cowell are, that's a different equation.



1. Resignation may be considered as a failure in two cases: (a) if she was forced to resign, - which did not happen, (b) if you consider "attaining the power" to be the measure of ultimate success in itself. That is a possible point of view, but I do not share it.

2. "Women"? Sorry, but I do not subscribe to the idea that genitalia defines a person, - specifically, defines person's political views.

Anyway, did you not notice how big is her influence among conservatives right now?

And, if she was that much of a failure, - how come Democrats show very strong visceral reaction every time she is mentioned? I have observed very, very few conservatives that trigger this sort of hateful reaction, - and hate is a first and most reliable tell of fear.


3. Well, yeah, if you describe it THAT way, it sounds bad. However, if you describe it in neutral terms: "was invited to share her views by the TV channel with the largest audience" - that sounds quite successful.


Now, the money.

Say, she did not steal her money, did she? The only reason she's a millionaire is - people paid her. For whatever she gave them in return.

You do not approve her views, you do not like that she shares them with others, you do not like that people listen to her, and you do not like that they pay her for what she delivers for them, - fine. You are free to like or dislike anything you want.

But when you say "it is not a success when half of the country pays someone millions just to hear her views" - think about it calmly. Does this idea sound right?

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I know one. Marryanne Trump Barry - Federal Judge, Third Circuit.


So, what portion of her success you attribute to her being Fred's daughter?

And where is the rest of the family?

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She appeals to the lazy-don't know the facts crowd, the racists crowd, the dumbed down crowd.... you know...the Republicans! And she's made millions off it. What a country.

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No - she wasn't forced to resign. Worse, she played the victim - a Palin hallmark. She claimed she was quitting because she had to spend too much time defending herself against "frivolous ethics claims". Clinton, Bush and Obama all dealt with this on a level probably ten to a thousand times greater, all the while running the country - a task considerably greater than running Alaska. So on what terms do we measure her "success"? Is she successful compared to other PTA presidents and town council members of 9,000 people municipalities? Sure. Is she successful compared to people on both sides of the political divide who have real accomplishments and lengthy experience at the national level? Are you really going to make that claim?

I wasn't defining her as a woman nor making any claims about her qualifications that she herself didn't make. Hockey Mom and Pit bull with lipstick were how she chose to introduce herself to the country. She could have talked about her past accomplishments, her education, her commitment to certain issues. No, she talked about her uterus.

And again with the money. Oliver Perez is making $12 million this year, even though he was cut by the Mets and is currently out of baseball. He didn't steal that money either. Is he successful? Bill Swanson of Merrillville, Indiana won $74 million last month in Powerball. Is he successful? Leona Helmsley's dog, Trouble, inherited $12 million. Is s/he successful?

My opinion of her views has nothing to do with defining her success. There are plenty on the left who I feel similarly about - Al Sharpton comes readily to mind. But you are seriously out of touch if you think liberals fear Sarah Palin. I traffic with liberals and can tell you that everyone I know salivates at the idea of Sarah Palin as the republican nominee for President. I don't really see the hateful reaction you talk about - I mostly see/hear laughter.

Let's be honest - whatever her qualifications, and I'm happy to agree to disagree on those, she is far too thin-skinned to run for President, let alone actually hold the job.

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She is not running for President. She is all about making $.
This is all a publicity stunt to sell her book.


She is a total fake and quitter. Thank you John McCain. Yeesh.

She is running for President as much as that numb nuts Trump was running for President.

http://thelastword.msnbc.msn.com/_new ... ins-the-new-trump-in-town

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I know one. Marryanne Trump Barry - Federal Judge, Third Circuit.


So, what portion of her success you attribute to her being Fred's daughter?

And where is the rest of the family?


I think you are the one that needs to learn more about Fred's fortune and Donald's siblings.

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Sarah Palin, center, her daughter Piper Palin, front, and her parents, Sally and Chuck Heath, pause as a band plays "The Star-Spangled Banner" during their visit to Liberty Island today.


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There's something very weird about her wearing a Star of David necklace.

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These millionaires were in NYC and chose La Famiglia as their pizza spot. And people want them to run this country?

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And again with the money. Oliver Perez is making $12 million this year, even though he was cut by the Mets and is currently out of baseball. He didn't steal that money either. Is he successful?


Whoa. Okay Ollie is in baseball. AA for the nationals. He also has a much better k/9 rate then Sarah.

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These millionaires were in NYC and chose La Famiglia as their pizza spot. And people want them to run this country?


Haa haa, thanks for putting my thoughts into a great post.

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She appeals to the lazy-don't know the facts crowd, the racists crowd, the dumbed down crowd.... you know...the Republicans! And she's made millions off it. What a country.


Well, at least she doesn't appeal to the "throw feces at your opponent" crowd , right?

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These millionaires were in NYC and chose La Famiglia as their pizza spot. And people want them to run this country?


Haa haa, thanks for putting my thoughts into a great post.




http://www.famousfamiglia.com/

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"Palin/Trump 2012! Definitely want someone who picked Famous Famiglia's in Times Square to have the nuke codes." Why were Palin and Trump at Famiglia, besides the fact that it's located at the Crossworlds of the Lamestream Media? Well, Trump's latest batch of Celebrity Apprentice contestants had to sell pizza at Famiglia. (Former Celebrity Apprentice contestant/Real Housewife of Atlanta Nene Leakes calls Famigilia her favorite pizza spot.)

http://gothamist.com/2011/05/31/sarah ... mp_eat_at_fam.php#photo-1

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No - she wasn't forced to resign. Worse, she played the victim - a Palin hallmark. She claimed she was quitting because she had to spend too much time defending herself against "frivolous ethics claims". Clinton, Bush and Obama all dealt with this on a level probably ten to a thousand times greater, all the while running the country - a task considerably greater than running Alaska. So on what terms do we measure her "success"? Is she successful compared to other PTA presidents and town council members of 9,000 people municipalities? Sure. Is she successful compared to people on both sides of the political divide who have real accomplishments and lengthy experience at the national level? Are you really going to make that claim?

I wasn't defining her as a woman nor making any claims about her qualifications that she herself didn't make. Hockey Mom and Pit bull with lipstick were how she chose to introduce herself to the country. She could have talked about her past accomplishments, her education, her commitment to certain issues. No, she talked about her uterus.

And again with the money. Oliver Perez is making $12 million this year, even though he was cut by the Mets and is currently out of baseball. He didn't steal that money either. Is he successful? Bill Swanson of Merrillville, Indiana won $74 million last month in Powerball. Is he successful? Leona Helmsley's dog, Trouble, inherited $12 million. Is s/he successful?

My opinion of her views has nothing to do with defining her success. There are plenty on the left who I feel similarly about - Al Sharpton comes readily to mind. But you are seriously out of touch if you think liberals fear Sarah Palin. I traffic with liberals and can tell you that everyone I know salivates at the idea of Sarah Palin as the republican nominee for President. I don't really see the hateful reaction you talk about - I mostly see/hear laughter.

Let's be honest - whatever her qualifications, and I'm happy to agree to disagree on those, she is far too thin-skinned to run for President, let alone actually hold the job.



1. You did not mention that Palin did defend herself, and did win against all those complaints. Quite an omission, no? Ah, I see, you wanted to use "played a victim" phrase, and it just doesn't sound right if she did not "play" but actually was a victim of a dishonest smear campaign. Ok.

As for the rest, - I do not get your point. She is successful. Very few people in politics reach this level of success. I would have understood it, if you said something "I HATE all her achievements!" - but to say that those do not exist is just weird.

2. You did not define her as a woman, - you defined everybody else. When you evaluated her in terms of how she was accepted by women. This very approach means that to you womanhood defines person in a political context. I do not subscribe to that notion.

3. As for the money, look, it is very, very simple: in order to EARN money, you must do something that other people want. You must provide some value. If a person earns a lot of money, it means that he or she provided a lot of value to a lot of people, - simple as that. What's wrong with that? Why "providing value to many people" is not a measure of success?

4. I do not think that "liberals fear Palin", - I observe it. There are very, very, very few politicians that trigger this kind of hateful response from their opponents.

5. As for the thin-skinned, - do you remember all the Trigg-trutherism? All the well-wishing on that subject? Day after day? In central press too? And now look at the death-ray looks that Mr. Cool President was giving a few days ago to Israeli Prime Minister. And that had nothing to do with emotional family issues, - merely with foreign policy disagreement.

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