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Well proven in the minds of who?

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All I know is that when I hear anyone say 'sammies' I either want to hurl or smack someone.

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The horror! Imagine all those poor Short Hills Mall shoppers who are having their civil rights trampled on-the 1%ers having a problem buying a car from the billionaire Tesla owner with Obama tax breaks!

And Sweeney not organizing the Legislature to allow it! It could be the civil right issue of our time methinks.

Can the NJ Senate President be impeached for this?

You speak in the language of corrupt politicians. Very impressive. Erecting massive trade barriers for protectionism isn't a problem because Teslas are for the 1%, who of course we hate. Boooo 1%, yay corrupt dealership model.

Seriously guys, we need legislative action to repeal the dealership model.

I wouldn't go that far. Before Christie and his cabinet on the MVC changed the law, New Jersey plainly allowed for direct sales and a dealership model. If some people enjoy the dealership experience, let them continue. But do not take away the rights of others who want to buy a car like a Tesla.

Not true. They had been given a waiver, with the understanding that they would have a chance to lobby the Legislature to change the law or negotiate with Trenton over this. Every dealer has to renew yearly. And, with two sales outlets in NJ, their existing model is ONE service center, in Springfield, to take are of the whole state for service and warranty repair. Sure not very consumer friendly . . .

I'm not sure such a big deal should be made over a car (with a huge Obama 'green' tax break) that costs over $70K, to enrich a billionaire like Elon Musk though.

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At this point, I would have more respect for Christie if he fessed up and admitted that he told Kelly to send that email (which is what really happened).

If what he said today was true (and it isn't), then he is completely out of the loop and has a staff made up largely of total jerks and morons.

So if you feel that way, how do you feel about Obama and Obamacare, and Mrs. Clinton and Benghazi?

You already applaud Obama for the IRS targeting (and yes, look somewhere else than Rachel Maddow for facts about who was targeted, whose apps were delayed the longest, the percentages of applications investigated/approved depending on whether they were pro or anti Obama) so certainly, if there was a shred of evidence that Christie was involved-you already approve his targeting enemies?

But the fact remains-the Ft Lee mayor wasn't asked for an endorsement, why punish him from Christie's point of view? His staff screwed up. So did the State Department.

In 2016 conegate will be a memory, and Benghazi won't be. The families of the dead and wounded under Mrs. Clinton's watch won't let it. A traffic jam? Meh.

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Holy sh*t Chester, you truly have lost touch with reality.

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The more relevant point is that this move DID delay ambulances. Whether or not this woman could have been saved is not the point. Messing with traffic is damn dangerous.

And I ask again, what if this woman had been your mother? Would you so casually shrug Bridgegate off?

My mother died at 67, if she made 91 I'd have been thrilled. I'd love to see a stat on how many 91 year old women survive heart attacks under any circumstances, let alone a few minute delay in response from an ambulance.

Still missing the point. Purposely, I assume.

Fail. First, you'd have to prove that the 91 year old woman, already in cardiac arrest (and maybe already dead but undeclared) lost her life over a few minutes delay. If that is so, then I said throw the book at the people involved.

No connection has been made to Christie over this, so his exposure is zero-unless you're one of the 'it's his culture as exec that encouraged this' in which case we're back to Obama and IRSGate, which you'd then be calling for his head as well. Along with Mrs. Clinton and Benghazi.

But you won't, of course, because that's intellectually honest and non partisan.

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The more relevant point is that this move DID delay ambulances. Whether or not this woman could have been saved is not the point. Messing with traffic is damn dangerous.

And I ask again, what if this woman had been your mother? Would you so casually shrug Bridgegate off?

My mother died at 67, if she made 91 I'd have been thrilled. I'd love to see a stat on how many 91 year old women survive heart attacks under any circumstances, let alone a few minute delay in response from an ambulance.

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Hahaha, haters. Still waiting to see proof Christie was responsible for any of this.

At least he manned up, faced the press right away, apologized, etc. Wish the same could be said for others *cough cough Hillary* *cough cough Barry*

The people who would never vote for Christie anyway still won't vote for him. The ever increasing base of people who classify themselves as independents just found more reasons to vote for him. Fringe Republicans can do nothing but admire how he fired staff who are culpable, which they haven't seen from Democrats in the same position.

A human and brilliant response from Christie, taking every single question and answering it-no spin, no dodge.

And he's looking great, for all the self hating fatties who criticize him for his size.

To be clear, though-I loved the fleece, but initials belong on the shirt front, not the sleeve cuffs, Governor!

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It's a traffic jam. We get those in NJ. Please.

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I work in Motown