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First, let me congratulate Donald Trump on being elected President. This is the best democracy the world has ever known. Those protesting the election results need to understand that and move on.

Where Hillary and the Democrats lost - was they disenfranchised a huge segment of voters. When they talk to the middle class - they're talking to the unionized middle class. What Donald and his team did, spectacularly imo, is resonate with the non-unionized middle class.

If you have watched Donald, read his books, watch his shows - you'll know that he is an extremely intelligent guy. He deliberately dumbed down his campaign rhetoric to reach out to that middle class disenfranchised by the Democrats.

Hillary Clinton lost the election on this more than anything else with: "When they go low, we go high". When she went high - she stopped listening to - and communicating with - the majority of Americans.

The Trump election has been a game changer - and it's great to see the stagnant politics in the US shaken up like this. I don't care for a lot of his policies - but I don't have to - given my faith in the strength of US democracy.



Great observations... and may I add too your comment about unionized middle class.... we are not talking about unions like the SEIU. For the most part, AFL/CIO Union Leadership are in as guilty of betraying their own membership as HRC did marginalizing a bloc of voters in this election.

That Union Leadership is part of the Washington Establishment and they sold out years ago. The 2008 billions given to car industry was to buy UAW management. That industry was not part of the financial crash and the companies that received money were those with high union membership.

Many of the companies that took the cash were already foreign owned and the industry was all ready shaky due to foreign imports. I also do not believe that any of that TARP money given to those businesses was ever repaid... unlike AIG.


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First, let me congratulate Donald Trump on being elected President. This is the best democracy the world has ever known. Those protesting the election results need to understand that and move on.

Where Hillary and the Democrats lost - was they disenfranchised a huge segment of voters. When they talk to the middle class - they're talking to the unionized middle class. What Donald and his team did, spectacularly imo, is resonate with the non-unionized middle class.

If you have watched Donald, read his books, watch his shows - you'll know that he is an extremely intelligent guy. He deliberately dumbed down his campaign rhetoric to reach out to that middle class disenfranchised by the Democrats.

Hillary Clinton lost the election on this more than anything else with: "When they go low, we go high". When she went high - she stopped listening to - and communicating with - the majority of Americans.

The Trump election has been a game changer - and it's great to see the stagnant politics in the US shaken up like this. I don't care for a lot of his policies - but I don't have to - given my faith in the strength of US democracy.

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What is alarming is the fact that Trump would not qualify to be a policeman in many departments throughout the US as his is not of 'good character', a declared bankrupt and has committed illegal activities;

? Donald Trump has a long history of not honoring contracts with construction companies
? Donald Trump has knowingly and intentionally defrauded Trump University students, fleecing them out of thousands of dollars
? He may have illegally coordinated with his SuperPac
? He illegally used corporate resources to pay an employee to write a political speech
? He violated federal law by claiming proceeds from various Trump products would go to charity, although there is no evidence that Trump ever donated the money to charity
? He violated IRS rules by using $12,000 from his charity organization to purchase a Tim Tebow helmet
? He violated election laws by emailing foreign officials to solicit political contributions
? He violated federal laws by offering Ben Carson a job in exchange for his endorsement
? His employees violated a U.S. trade embargo by pursuing commercial activities in Cuba when it was illegal to do so
? He?s run afoul of election laws by using campaign contributions to pay $6 million to his own businesses
? He violated Wisconsin election laws by talking with voters as they stood in line to vote
? He violated New York state education laws for operating a for-profit investment school without the required license
? His foreign policy proposals would violate NATO
? He?s violated copyright law for using copyrighted images without permission
? Many of the proposals he has vowed to pursue as President violate the First, Fourth, Fifth, and Eighth Amendments of the Constitution
? Trump broke New York state law by lobbying to prevent an Indian casino from opening in the Catskills
? His vow to use torture on suspected terrorists would violate the Geneva conventions. He would be committing war crimes.
? He broke anti-discrimination laws to keep a mob boss gambling at one of his casinos
? He violated immigration laws by misrepresenting his company on work-visa applications


The US should consider the next election be carried out as follows;

1. We have all the prospective candidates sent to a deserted island.
2. There they undergo a number of tasks and activities that relate to presidential duties.
3. These tasks and role play activities are prepared to test their stress levels, honesty, foreign policy, teamwork, negotiation skills etc
4. After each week, we the audience, phone in and vote out the worse candidate until we come up with a final two, whereby the most phone calls become the Vice President and the least the President

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2 terms, lol.


The way Democrats are keeping up their "everything he does and everyone he picks is racist" act, he's a lock for 2 terms.


Why?


Because many moderate voters see the act for what it is: an immature attempt to undermine President Trump no matter what he does. Endlessly crying wolf. You lose all credibility. That nonsense only works on fellow "progressives" while turning others off.

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The way Democrats are keeping up their "everything he does and everyone he picks is racist" act, he's a lock for 2 terms.


Why?

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The way Democrats are keeping up their "everything he does and everyone he picks is racist" act, he's a lock for 2 terms.


Maybe even 3..... after all he is..... President Donald Trump!

ohhhhh just the sound of that gives a little tingle down my leg. :)

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The way Democrats are keeping up their "everything he does and everyone he picks is racist" act, he's a lock for 2 terms.



Maybe even 3..... after all he is..... President Donald Trump!
ohhhhh just the sound of that gives a little tingle down my leg. :)

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The way Democrats are keeping up their "everything he does and everyone he picks is racist" act, he's a lock for 2 terms.

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2 terms, lol.

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$25 million to settle the case? Chump change. Just how much more will his net worth be after two terms as POTUS?

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When too many people believe whatever you say, you can say whatever you want.

Hell, he convinced tons of people that a billionaire who lives at the top of a skyscraper in NYC with his name on it is somehow "a man of the people".



And what exactly did Hillary represent? A ton of people were also conned by the HRC propaganda machine into thinking she was a shoe in. The silly propagandists themselves who started to believe their own lies.

She should be embarrassed that she did not destroy Trump.... Everyone knew she was lying, untrustworthy and owned by Goldman Sachs... there not one accomplishment in her whole political life that she earned herself.

Now the crap about Trump settling court cases???? Her husband settled his sexual harassment lawsuits as President. Apparently, that is what Presidents do??? The democrats and their corrupt nomination process are equally guilty for letting Trump into office.

People had no choice and that snobby nouveau riche elitist did nothing convince the working class people that she belonged in the WH.

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This is the part I don't get about Trump - is he really that delusional that he believes that he is responsible for this? It has happened many times during the campaign, and that, I guess is exaggeration, but he's won the Presidency, why do this shit?

President-elect Donald Trump took to Twitter on Thursday night to say Ford Motor Co. executive chairman William Ford Jr. had called to say the company would not move production of the Lincoln MKC from its Louisville Assembly Plant to Mexico.

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I worked hard with Bill Ford to keep the Lincoln plant in Kentucky. I owed it to the great State of Kentucky for their confidence in me!

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Ford, however, said it neither planned to close the Louisville, Ky., plant nor reduce jobs there. The company said it had considered moving Lincoln production to Mexico to increase production of the Ford Escape in Louisville.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-wa ... ln-production-in-kentucky


When too many people believe whatever you say, you can say whatever you want.

Hell, he convinced tons of people that a billionaire who lives at the top of a skyscraper in NYC with his name on it is somehow "a man of the people".

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This is the part I don't get about Trump - is he really that delusional that he believes that he is responsible for this? It has happened many times during the campaign, and that, I guess is exaggeration, but he's won the Presidency, why do this shit?

President-elect Donald Trump took to Twitter on Thursday night to say Ford Motor Co. executive chairman William Ford Jr. had called to say the company would not move production of the Lincoln MKC from its Louisville Assembly Plant to Mexico.

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Just got a call from my friend Bill Ford, Chairman of Ford, who advised me that he will be keeping the Lincoln plant in Kentucky - no Mexico
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I worked hard with Bill Ford to keep the Lincoln plant in Kentucky. I owed it to the great State of Kentucky for their confidence in me!

9:15 PM - 17 Nov 2016

Ford, however, said it neither planned to close the Louisville, Ky., plant nor reduce jobs there. The company said it had considered moving Lincoln production to Mexico to increase production of the Ford Escape in Louisville.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-wa ... ln-production-in-kentucky

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Pretty amazing that the alt-left media continues and in some cases stepped up the attacks on Trump. The result was helping President elect Trump.... so what is the definition of insanity?


They continue their lies and Trump continues to outpoint them using Twitter. Jab, jab, jab. I hope he continues doing it as the POTUS. Or has MILO do it for him... :)))))

One recent lie was that Trump's transition process was in chaos and has ground to a halt. They forgot to mention that Obama had his first appointee AFTER Thanksgiving. Trump's pace is well ahead of that. LIES!

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Pretty amazing that the alt-left media continues and in some cases stepped up the attacks on Trump. The result was helping President elect Trump.... so what is the definition of insanity?


They continue their lies and Trump continues to outpoint them using Twitter. Jab, jab, jab. I hope he continues doing it as the POTUS. Or has MILO do it for him... :)))))

One recent lie was that Trump's transition process was in chaos and has ground to a halt. They forgot to mention that Obama had his first appointee AFTER Thanksgiving. Trump's pace is well ahead of that. LIES!

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Pretty amazing that the alt-left media continues and in some cases stepped up the attacks on Trump. The result was helping President elect Trump.... so what is the definition of insanity?

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I never thought I'd be quoting HuffPost, but the autopsy results are in, and they are: too much hobnobbing with Bon Jovi and too little campaigning in the blue states.

The libs are turning on Hillary. I love this.

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The best people, JCMan? Like Sarah Palin? Like Steve Bannon? Like Rudy Giuliani? Jeff Sessions?Myron Ebell, a knuckledragger who would head up the EPA but who believes climate change is not real???? Holy Mother of God, if those are "the best people", I am curious to know who the worst people would be.


All good people.

Unlike the radical Ellison.

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The best people, JCMan? Like Sarah Palin? Like Steve Bannon? Like Rudy Giuliani? Jeff Sessions?Myron Ebell, a knuckledragger who would head up the EPA but who believes climate change is not real???? Holy Mother of God, if those are "the best people", I am curious to know who the worst people would be.


How is it ok to call someone a knuckle dragger in your PC world?


Yes! Think of the cavemen! You should be ashamed.

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The best people, JCMan? Like Sarah Palin? Like Steve Bannon? Like Rudy Giuliani? Jeff Sessions?Myron Ebell, a knuckledragger who would head up the EPA but who believes climate change is not real???? Holy Mother of God, if those are "the best people", I am curious to know who the worst people would be.


How is it ok to call someone a knuckle dragger in your PC world?

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The best people, JCMan? Like Sarah Palin? Like Steve Bannon? Like Rudy Giuliani? Jeff Sessions?Myron Ebell, a knuckledragger who would head up the EPA but who believes climate change is not real???? Holy Mother of God, if those are "the best people", I am curious to know who the worst people would be.

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cindy, did you buy ivanka's bracelet? i's beautiful and I think it will appreciate in value. i hope it wasn't sold out on hsn.

also, i think ivana would make an excellent ambassador to czeckia. don't you?

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Caj11, to the extent those stories do not involve bankruptcy, and involve business owners who performed good work (this seems to be disputed in several cases), then I agree there should be no problem paying what you originally agreed. To the extent he was a deadbeat, no one's perfect.

Regarding your second point, I totally disagree, and frankly don't care what the rest of the world thinks. Not sure why anyone would. I care about enforcing the border, helping Americans get put back to work, and fighting against political correctness. From your attitude, it seems you have preconceived notions how his presidency will go, and you may not give him a fair chance. Hopefully you reconsider.



Two things -

1. Do you pay your bills in full and on time? I do. I agree, nobody's perfect, but Trump has story after story of not paying his bills and his imperfections have made lives difficult for a lot of people in New York and New Jersey. They have essentially subsidized Trump's limousines, helicopters, yachts and airplanes. If he has ANY heart at all, he'll sell some of his assets to pay the money he rightfully owes that wasn't discharged in his bankruptcies. I don't care how long ago these debts were incurred - better late than never.

2. Regarding enforcing the border, do you think that his delusional plan to build a wall between the US and Mexico will do much to solve the illegal immigration problem? Even if he is successful in building the wall, then many of the undesirables will just stay here rather than go back to Mexico after they've earned enough money. The porous border between the US and Mexico is not an ideal situation, but I think a wall would probably make things worse. Furthermore, if Trump has such a problem with illegals WHY did he hire them when he was building the Trump Tower?

http://time.com/4465744/donald-trump-undocumented-workers/

Or at his modeling agency?

http://www.aol.com/article/2016/08/31 ... egal-immigrants/21463003/

Seems like it's all right for him to use illegals when it benefits him personally, but when he runs for and becomes President, he advocates for their deportation because of course that's the ideal political stance. I'm sure there are still illegals working in his hotels and resorts today - you are never going to staff your entire housekeeping department without them. Talk about hypocrisy.


http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/5706
Here you go end of discussion.


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/us/ ... io-trump-vendor.html?_r=0

Not quite.

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Caj11, to the extent those stories do not involve bankruptcy, and involve business owners who performed good work (this seems to be disputed in several cases), then I agree there should be no problem paying what you originally agreed. To the extent he was a deadbeat, no one's perfect.

Regarding your second point, I totally disagree, and frankly don't care what the rest of the world thinks. Not sure why anyone would. I care about enforcing the border, helping Americans get put back to work, and fighting against political correctness. From your attitude, it seems you have preconceived notions how his presidency will go, and you may not give him a fair chance. Hopefully you reconsider.



Two things -

1. Do you pay your bills in full and on time? I do. I agree, nobody's perfect, but Trump has story after story of not paying his bills and his imperfections have made lives difficult for a lot of people in New York and New Jersey. They have essentially subsidized Trump's limousines, helicopters, yachts and airplanes. If he has ANY heart at all, he'll sell some of his assets to pay the money he rightfully owes that wasn't discharged in his bankruptcies. I don't care how long ago these debts were incurred - better late than never.

2. Regarding enforcing the border, do you think that his delusional plan to build a wall between the US and Mexico will do much to solve the illegal immigration problem? Even if he is successful in building the wall, then many of the undesirables will just stay here rather than go back to Mexico after they've earned enough money. The porous border between the US and Mexico is not an ideal situation, but I think a wall would probably make things worse. Furthermore, if Trump has such a problem with illegals WHY did he hire them when he was building the Trump Tower?

http://time.com/4465744/donald-trump-undocumented-workers/

Or at his modeling agency?

http://www.aol.com/article/2016/08/31 ... egal-immigrants/21463003/

Seems like it's all right for him to use illegals when it benefits him personally, but when he runs for and becomes President, he advocates for their deportation because of course that's the ideal political stance. I'm sure there are still illegals working in his hotels and resorts today - you are never going to staff your entire housekeeping department without them. Talk about hypocrisy.


http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/5706
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Not hypocrisy at all. He worked under the rules at the time. It was not his place to complain about how unjust they were towards others. His duty was to increase his profit, which he did by playing the system.

Now that he knows the system inside and out, he's in the best position to reform it. Which I believe he will. Unlike you, who seem to look at him with hate in your heart, at a minimum I will wait for him to take action and then judge. So far I've been happy with his advisor picks, and the next thing to judge will be his cabinet picks.

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Caj11, to the extent those stories do not involve bankruptcy, and involve business owners who performed good work (this seems to be disputed in several cases), then I agree there should be no problem paying what you originally agreed. To the extent he was a deadbeat, no one's perfect.

Regarding your second point, I totally disagree, and frankly don't care what the rest of the world thinks. Not sure why anyone would. I care about enforcing the border, helping Americans get put back to work, and fighting against political correctness. From your attitude, it seems you have preconceived notions how his presidency will go, and you may not give him a fair chance. Hopefully you reconsider.



Two things -

1. Do you pay your bills in full and on time? I do. I agree, nobody's perfect, but Trump has story after story of not paying his bills and his imperfections have made lives difficult for a lot of people in New York and New Jersey. They have essentially subsidized Trump's limousines, helicopters, yachts and airplanes. If he has ANY heart at all, he'll sell some of his assets to pay the money he rightfully owes that wasn't discharged in his bankruptcies. I don't care how long ago these debts were incurred - better late than never.

2. Regarding enforcing the border, do you think that his delusional plan to build a wall between the US and Mexico will do much to solve the illegal immigration problem? Even if he is successful in building the wall, then many of the undesirables will just stay here rather than go back to Mexico after they've earned enough money. The porous border between the US and Mexico is not an ideal situation, but I think a wall would probably make things worse. Furthermore, if Trump has such a problem with illegals WHY did he hire them when he was building the Trump Tower?

http://time.com/4465744/donald-trump-undocumented-workers/

Or at his modeling agency?

http://www.aol.com/article/2016/08/31 ... egal-immigrants/21463003/

Seems like it's all right for him to use illegals when it benefits him personally, but when he runs for and becomes President, he advocates for their deportation because of course that's the ideal political stance. I'm sure there are still illegals working in his hotels and resorts today - you are never going to staff your entire housekeeping department without them. Talk about hypocrisy.

Posted on: 2016/11/16 4:13
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