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Re: JC historic commission to vote Monday on demolition of St. Peter’s school buildings
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The below is from… “The Jersey City: Past and Present website is a digital project of New Jersey City University (NJCU)”. Great site. Yvonne got some of it right the site gives much more detail. This is about the lots at Van Vorst and Grand Streets which is now Prep’s O'Keefe Commons. Gee sounds like the property is jinxed. Pilings not holding structure collapsed, a fire, damage from the Black Tom explosion, and a hurricane…interesting.

St. Peter's Roman Catholic Church
144 Grand Street
by Mary Kinahan-Ockay
College Archivist, Saint Peter's College

https://www.njcu.edu/programs/jchistor ... urch.htm?no_redirect=true

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 barely a murmur in comparison when a historic building like this will be demolished.




You mean besides showing up at every meeting of Historic Preservation?

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Postponed to April 1.


Vote postponed on whether St. Peter’s Prep can demolish buildings

Updated 6:01 PM; Posted 6:01 PM
By Aya Elamroussi | The Jersey Journal

The Jersey Historic Preservation Commission’s vote on whether to allow St. Peter’s Prep to demolish two of its 19th century buildings has been postponed until April.

The hearing, which was scheduled for Monday night, has been moved to April 1 to determine if the Catholic school will be permitted to demolish St. Peter’s Hall and the former St. Peter’s Grammar School.

https://www.nj.com/hudson/2019/02/vote ... n-demolish-buildings.html

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The HPHA on sent out emails today talking about the meeting and then the subsequent postponement. I think their position is preservation... however their 180 degree turnaround on their opposition to the Tower built on Van Vorst paint factory property diminished my opinion about that group.

I think preserving the huge trees that obstruct the view of the rundown buildings are more important. Looking at a couple of links in this thread, I understand the nostalgia/historical angles but frankly is just a small side street now. Not a prominent location like Washington St. The Beehive / Old High School or Bank(s) on Montgomery.

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I'm amazed that the neighborhood associations will bitch and complain about a 4 floor building going up on a vacant lot because it includes one less parking space than zoning prescribes but barely a murmur in comparison when a historic building like this will be demolished.

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i hope there is a way to preserve the outer shell and building new inside the shell...maybe go deeper and higher...i hope the developers and the city decide to go witha "better, more innovative" approach instead of the low cost option which gives the city another basic box.

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Postponed to April 1.

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A little history on that property, first it was given to the Catholics who worked in Henderson pottery factory around the early 1800s. They would cross the river to go to St. Peter's Church in Manhattan. This was done by rowing. Rowing back and forth, the men became tired and they missed Monday's work. The reason for the free land. But they did not receive the best land, it was marsh land. During the construction of the first church, it fell down. The second church, something similar to St. Francis in NYC, with an upper and lower church. Eventually, the city condemned the church and it was torn down. The final church was built in 1960 and remained until it was sold to St. Peter's Prep. The Church and Grammar school are on marsh land. There are times during heavy rain that water would spring up from the ground. The basement of the grammar school had a wavy floor from buckling. It is only a matter of time that building (grammar school) face the same fate as the first two churches. I am surprised there are no pictures shown of the floor of the grammar school. That was my parish and my children attended the grammar school.


Yvonne,

Thanks for the historical information.

That leads to the question: Is this information about the marsh land included in the information for the vote? Also if the land is in such bad shape, is building a parking lot there worthwhile? Or should some other use be considered for that plot?

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It may become a parking lot but for how long? Fulop has already allowed 20 story building to be built in a 7 story zone.

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A little history on that property, first it was given to the Catholics who worked in Henderson pottery factory around the early 1800s. They would cross the river to go to St. Peter's Church in Manhattan. This was done by rowing. Rowing back and forth, the men became tired and they missed Monday's work. The reason for the free land. But they did not receive the best land, it was marsh land. During the construction of the first church, it fell down. The second church, something similar to St. Francis in NYC, with an upper and lower church. Eventually, the city condemned the church and it was torn down. The final church was built in 1960 and remained until it was sold to St. Peter's Prep. The Church and Grammar school are on marsh land. There are times during heavy rain that water would spring up from the ground. The basement of the grammar school had a wavy floor from buckling. It is only a matter of time that building (grammar school) face the same fate as the first two churches. I am surprised there are no pictures shown of the floor of the grammar school. That was my parish and my children attended the grammar school.

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Interesting....

Historic Jersey City : Then and Now

http://www.jerseycitythenandnow.com/

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Good riddance.... I would say it is an eye sore, but most people do not even know the falling down building is there! I was just walking by the Humanities Building on my way to work the other day admiring what a fine looking building it is for its age.

If it is a parking lot, hopefully it will get all the student/faculty/ visitors parking on Grand Street off the public street and onto their property.

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They’ve been saying they were gonna replace it with a parking lot. Someone should ask the Paulus Hook NA how Yvonne’s knife in their back feels as she’s actively lobbying to have the building torn down and have a beautiful parking lot installed.

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Jersey City historic commission to vote Monday on demolition of St. Peter’s school buildings

Updated 10:43 AM; Posted 10:40 AM
By Corey W. McDonald | The Jersey Journal

JERSEY CITY — The city’s historic preservation commission will vote Monday to demolish the St Peter’s Original Parish School and St. Peter’s Hall and Parochial School.

The Romanesque Revival buildings, built in the late 19th century on the corner of York and Van Vorst streets, have been owned by the St. Peter's Preparatory School since 2005.

https://www.nj.com/hudson/2019/02/jers ... ers-school-buildings.html

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