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Re: Please Help Prato Bakery
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The NA NIMBYs claim another scalp. These worthless organizations need to be dissolved.

Oh, whatever

I don't know what squeeg knows, but it sounds like it's the landlord who has chosen not to renew the lease. Prato has been doing a good business for quite some time now. Just last month, the owner of Prato was saying he liked being part of the neighborhood, and knowing their regular customers:
http://jerseycityeats.blogspot.com/20 ... et-vendor-prato.html#more

I see no indication that the neighborhood chased them out.


Perhaps that's not the case and if so, I'll stand corrected. The OP (squeeg) seems quite elated they're leaving and is lauding the HPNA, indicating they had something to do with this decision.

So they drove out a very popular bakery that closes in the early evenings that most of the neighborhood really enjoyed. Wonderful. I hope the NA is happy with the hair salon/real estate office/some sort of preschool they'll wind up getting in its place.

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Re: Please Help Prato Bakery
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NEWS FLASH....PRATO BAKERY IS CLOSING AT THE END OF 2017!!!

Their lease was not renewed and as a result they are moving to a different location in Jersey City with more foot traffic.

I am soooo proud that the neighbors in the community and Harsimus Cove made sure the zoning board understood their grievances were about quality of life and privacy against the buildings landlord and not about Prato, coffee or baked goods!

BRAVO TO THE HARSIMUS COVE COMMUNITY FOR STANDING YOUR GROUND!

We will be sure to take the same fight to the front lines when a new tenant tries to move in and the landlord tries to do the same thing, although now that the "cafe law" is written in JC code the rules are clearly defined...

Dear Prato - we love your coffee and your baked goods and we do wish you much luck in your new location....it was never about you or your products. It was always about your landlord who we punched in the nuts for their douchiness... Prato was dragged into it because the landlord was not honest with you about the zoning laws before you moved in.

The landlord figured that because they are tight with the Mayor they could bully their way through without heading to the zoning laws and they used Prato to try and get their way. Good for you Prato for moving to a better location...!

Epic fail by the landlord!! (we're watching you)

Good luck Prato!!

To be continued...

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Congratulations Harsimus Cove...


The NA NIMBYs claim another scalp. These worthless organizations need to be dissolved.

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Re: Can JC kick it's parking addiction?
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You people are ridiculous, I posted a real story about a neighbor who had to use her car because surgery plus treatment left her chest sore, she told me she could not ride the PATH because the bumps from other passengers left her in pain. Yes, people do need cars. Luckily, she did recover. But your comments are ridiculous. People need their cars.
Cars are an improvements on the horses which lined the city before the auto. You didn't have to deal with the smell.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt0mk1b09NM

By the way, I receive no pleasure when other people have sorrow. I suggest you check your own conscience.


The only concern the fat slob Yvonne has is paying 0 or as little as she possibly can in taxes (though it's perfectly OK for everyone else to compensate and pick up her slack) and ensuring she encounters as little traffic and can find easy, free parking wherever she goes. The only concern here is for herself and becoming a power broker in the next administration and her crocodile tears about neighbors and "people she knows" only further that purpose.


So nickie, your mother raised a son with no manners. Personally, I would be horrified if my sons had your manners. So where did you get your doctor's degree? From the streets where low life make comments on the corner. You are a disgrace.


A little defensive, maybe you're upset there's truth to my criticisms. I'd be horrified if I had a mother that blatantly lies and can't remember basic facts to further her own ends and was a laughingstock of the community. You are a disgrace.

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Re: Can JC kick it's parking addiction?
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You people are ridiculous, I posted a real story about a neighbor who had to use her car because surgery plus treatment left her chest sore, she told me she could not ride the PATH because the bumps from other passengers left her in pain. Yes, people do need cars. Luckily, she did recover. But your comments are ridiculous. People need their cars.
Cars are an improvements on the horses which lined the city before the auto. You didn't have to deal with the smell.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt0mk1b09NM

By the way, I receive no pleasure when other people have sorrow. I suggest you check your own conscience.


The only concern the fat slob Yvonne has is paying 0 or as little as she possibly can in taxes (though it's perfectly OK for everyone else to compensate and pick up her slack) and ensuring she encounters as little traffic and can find easy, free parking wherever she goes. The only concern here is for herself and becoming a power broker in the next administration and her crocodile tears about neighbors and "people she knows" only further that purpose.

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Re: Can JC kick it's parking addiction?
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A factory conversion to lofts by me has many of the new tenants parking in the street. I talked to a few of the tenants was the parking fees are too high.

Used to have good street parking around here. Not anymore. JCPD has been upping the ticketing frequency due to neighbors complaining about illegal parking (too close to the intersections, etc.).

I also noticed it appears many of the residents of Cast Iron Lofts are using the road below Christ Hospital for parking as well. Cast Iron Lofts has an extensive parking deck. Parking fees too high as well?


Is this only an issue where there is no zoned parking? I thought residents of these new developments were ineligible to get parking stickers. The Cast Iron area is a clusterfuck, there is very little parking control at all, apparently they don't sweep the streets in that zone! The parking on 13th between Monmouth and Coles creates a hazard with the unnecessary 2 way traffic and the street dangerously narrowed.

More broadly, we should just let the market provide parking, and what it cost is what it costs. No one has a right to park their car in Manhattan and it seems to be doing alright. Hoboken is far harder to park than anywhere DT and it's doing alright too.

But if it's true those decks are underused, they should be forced to lower their prices till they're at 90% occupancy, and then let the occupancy rate dictate the price. Holding spots off the market is just stupid.


The parking permit regulations are quite clear: if your building has parking available, you are not eligible for a permit. They are fierce about enforcing that rule. The only possible out from that is the building parking is completely full and spots are not available to sell or rent, then you have to get a letter from the building management stating as much, and you can bring that along with the other requisite materials.

If there is a parking problem of residents parking on the streets when their building has parking available, complain to the Parking Authority and asked for stepped up enforcement of permit parking. But, don't conflate one matter with the other (not directed at you, Brewster!) as that only helps to confuse the matter at hand.

In the end, the real problem is that a bunch of NA old timers are always complaining about parking, and they are almost exclusively focused on that. It's a shame that so many other matters that should be handled with more urgency are getting short shrift because of the usual "OMG... parking! We are losing parking to newcomers".


The ironic thing is, legislation that would have helped this very issue (increased permit enforcement and forcing people to move their cars into building garage space) was shot down by none other than Yvonne. Despite being a disgusting racist herself, she had no problem calling the new rule racist and getting it shot down.

Posted on: 7/24 14:07
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Re: Can JC kick it's parking addiction?
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They are half empty because they charge an arm and a leg to rent the spaces. They are not half empty at St. John's apt and Brunswich Towers. St. John's charges very little and it is FREE for Brunswich residents. The fees and or rents are high enough, people are not willing to pay more. If the city ordinance required those spaces to be free for its residents, they would not be half empty.


What on earth are you talking about, if they're half empty, that means the units they're attached to and the rents that include them simply mean people aren't bringing them.

As long as the Yvonne and the corrupt neighborhood associations have so much influence on policy, such a thing would never see the light of day, even in an area where it would make sense like Downtown.

Posted on: 7/23 17:52
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Re: 808 Pavonia Project Approved
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an abated building is still better than a parking lot.


Not according to Her Highness Yvonne.


You can bet that this project will be instantly killed in a Matsikoudis/Yvonne administration. As will many others.

Posted on: 7/20 13:06
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Re: 808 Pavonia Project Approved
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people complaining about PATH crowding need to do a reality check. the city doesn't really care as long as it developes...and the PATH is never really that crowded compared to other major cities. we're not in kansas anymore!


The PATH is crowded, no doubt, but it's not anywhere near as bad as what the NYC is going through right now. People need to leave their bubbles and get a reality check. For the most part, the PATH still runs on schedule. I just wish they'd drop the stupid Hoboken layover on the weekends though.

Does anyone know if these buildings are getting an abatement? Even if they are, an abated building is still better than a parking lot.

Posted on: 7/20 11:31
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Re: Bill Matsikoudis for Jersey City Mayor
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Unlike you so call doctor, I am not fooled. I read the council agenda and I attend the meetings. I know what is being passed by the council. Very little on the agenda comes from the council members, it comes from the mayor. Spending is at a all time high. Healy's last budget $485 million - Fulop's budget $589 million. Spending is out of control.


What nonsense. This is Yvonne's last chance to retain some power and influence in a city that's long moved past the 1970s and her toxic views of her ilk.

If this moron wins, it's 100% a guarantee that things we enjoy and have been overall good for the city like the pedestrian plaza will be going away. There will be no continued investment in bike infrastructure as street parking and surface level parking lots will be preserved at all cost, maybe with a few new municipal garages thrown in here and there to decay and mar the streetscape. Any new developments that could make JC and attraction on its own, like SciTech City, will be absolutely dead in the water.

I surely hope your vocal backing as well as past associations with this this idiot get brought up and it will be hilarious to see him throw you under the bus in an effort to distance himself from your toxic views. It will fortunately be too little too late.

Posted on: 7/13 17:58
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Re: Bill Matsikoudis for Jersey City Mayor
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I'd love to see more emphasis on quality of life issues Downtown. I'm tired of stepping around crumbling, weed strewn sidewalks and walking past the same dilapidated buildings and abandoned lots every day. I want the city to start aggressively fining these deadbeat property owners. Hopefully most will just sell to more responsible citizens when their taxes double or triple as a result of the reval.

I'm also tired of the treeless streets and trees being cut down by the city without being replaced. They even leave the stumps in place, so property owners can't replace them on their own dime without having to pay for an expensive removal. If Downtown is going to contribute the lion's share of taxes, Fulop should start outlining policies to address some of these things.

It's quite telling that Healy #2 doesn't have any real policy specifics on his website, just vague one or two sentence platitudes. "I'm not Fulop" might work on people like Yvonne and her neighborhood association NIMBYs, but most people won't be fooled.

Posted on: 7/12 17:41
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Re: Bill Matsikoudis for Jersey City Mayor
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Why gross? (Serious question)


Mr. Matsikoudis is nothing but what we call a Healy Holdover (HH). Yes, Fulop was disappointing but do you really want to return to a Healy-style administration with this HH?


Given that he claims he's so against wasteful spending, maybe he should explain why he wasted a ton of city's money fighting something (election date change), that was upheld by the voters in a referendum, not once, but twice.

He should also be forced to explain why he has zero problems associating himself with disgusting bigot and "community activist", Yvonne and what role she would play in his administration. She should rightfully become an albatross around his neck.

Posted on: 7/12 13:35
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Re: Jersey City Fireworks Celebration Changed to Exchange Place In Jersey City
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So... looks like JC actually did better $ w/Exchange Place vs LSP. Most expenses were a wash but we doubled $ from the Carnival. Go figure

10:27 AM - 6 Jul 2017

https://twitter.com/StevenFulop/status/882969148527128576

maybe jc should consider using exchange place more often


I agree, with better planning and crowd control, I think Exchange Place could be the overall better venue, especially if they get the Colgate Clock area reopened. Easier to get to for most Downtown residents and more money for local businesses. I think it's a win-win.

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Re: July 4th, Kool and the Gang
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Great use of taxpayers $$$$ Steve. Typical of HC. We all know there are some extra $ being exchanged behind diner doors on this one.


I do think it's a great use of taxpayer money - why can't people STFU and just go have fun and enjoy the event? There are lots of municipalities that don't get to do something like this.

Posted on: 7/4 12:04
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Re: Gringos Taqueria - Coles Street
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Hey Dr - let's just stick to facts please. I'm all for smart commercial development. In fact a well planned out restaurant/ bar area no doubt raises property values on the whole. The key is "smart". JC has a very haphazard restaurant overlay and toothless code when it comes to distinctions between bars and restaurants. You think JCPD enforces noise code much?

So you get places like Gringos which would be far less likely to cause problems were it not surrounded by residential homes/condos. It's pretty tough to argue that a place like that open til 3am on weekends is going to be a net positive for neighboring residents. It's not much different than being close to a fraternity house or airport. People get discounts on real estate to compensate for all the negative externalities.

Furthermore being close to Chris Columbus is an apples to oranges argument. You think there's much noise coming from that road past 10PM? Nope. Plus any auto noise is much different that low end bass from bar stereos and the yelling drunks rolling out after last call.



OK, if we stick to the facts, a quick lookup of the location on Google street view, there really isn't all that much residential around it. You have maybe three buildings in the vicinity. If we go by your logic, any planned business within 50 feet of a residential building should get shelved. People live in the buildings near Porta - should we just tear that place down? By your logic, we'd never be able to put a bar, restaurant or any kind of entertainment venue anywhere in the city. You used similar disingenuous and easily disproven arguments when you railed against the horror of a Cuban restaurant opening on Montgomery St.

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Re: Gringos Taqueria - Coles Street
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4 Bros from hoboken open a taco shop named "gringos"



Isn't that exactly why they SHOULD call it Gringos? They aren't advertising themselves as an authentic Mexican restaurant. And I feel like if they did try and take that route they would get criticized for that too.. They aren't trying to pretend to be something they're not-they are putting it right out there with the restaurant name.

Damned if they do, Damned if they don't. There is plenty of room for another "mexican-inspired" restaurant in downtown JC. How many pizza places do we have at this point?

The more tacos the merrier.


As much as I love tacos, how many more Mexican places does JC really need? There's two Taqueria locations, Orale, Bubby's Burritos, Sol Azteca (now moving into aforementioned building on Montgomery St.). It feels like there's a huge oversupply of Mexican places.

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Re: Gringos Taqueria - Coles Street
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there seems to be minimal consideration for impact on residential neighbors with the bar boom occurring in DTJC.

Gringos looks like fun but the location is terrible in terms of the negative impact it will have on neighbors. They somehow got permits for a roof deck (neighboring rowhouse is 10 feet away) and outdoor seating by Coles.

All of those residential units within the noise footprint just took a 10% price haircut. Not sure that's what they signed up for when they bought...

If Gringos is smart they close at 11 and pay to police Maxwell Alley to keep drunken shenanigans to a minimum...


More NIMBY garbage from you, as usual. If it were up to you, there'd be NO retail, restaurants or businesses or fun things of any kind in the area because god forbid the ambient noise level in a city neighborhood rise above 10db. You threw a fit when a restaurant dared to try and rehab an abandoned building on Montgomery, too.

I think people who choose to move a block away from Columbus shouldn't be complaining about noise or traffic of any kind since they chose to live next to a 4 lane highway in a commercial zone. I'm sure a thriving restaurant will do better for people's property values than a decrepit auto shop with rusty fencing and barbed wire all around it. None of the other late night bars seem to have dinged property values in the slightest.

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Re: Jersey City Residents Decry Offensive Murals Commissioned by the City
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What hyprocrites, people say no censorship but there is censorship with the ban on chain stores downtown. Why is one fine but not the other?


To point out the obvious, one (art) is protected by the first amendment. The other (stores) is not.


Funny, how liberals ignore the First Amendment on other matters like the florists and bakers who do not want to cater a same sex wedding. Religion falls under the First Amendment before speech , assembly, etc. Returning to the subject, it is still mediocre art.
The law isn't stopping you from being a Catholic. It's just stopping you from treating other people like subhumans. Your arguments are identical to the ones made against interracial marriage, desegregation, and abolition, fyi.

Your concern trolling about the Constitution would make a lot more sense if you had the vaguest understanding of how it works, and if you weren't constantly harping on about nonsense like tiger murals scaring awful drivers.


The law requires people to call Jesus a liar on marriage. Jesus said, "A man leaves his father and mother and clings to his wife and the two will be one flesh." Religion does not stop when you leave your house of worship. Granted this is another topic. The Supreme Court also said Dred Scott was not a citizen. So why is the Supreme Court right now?


The Bible, in 1 Timothy 2:12, also says, "I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet."

I don't see you being quiet here, so please stop cherry picking your verses.


I think the fat slob just needs a shiny new distraction. Hey Yvonne, there's a parking lot being torn up in Downtown. Maybe you should rush there to go save it! Don't let the tiger mural scare you on your way over though.

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Re: Jersey City Residents Decry Offensive Murals Commissioned by the City
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Art by committee is worse than no art at all - it becomes boring, sanitized nonsense that forces the artist to water down their original vision. Nothing extraordinary gets created by a committee.

This is such a stupid idea and I have a hard time believing a legitimate artist would ever propose this. This means someone like Yvonne, who is offended by everything, will get veto power over someone else's artistic vision. The only murals she'll allow are ones that glorify either the church or parking lots.

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Re: Flooding in Jersey City
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My old neighborhood in Hoboken went under water. Have the check if the heaviest rain came during high tide.


Sewage started backing up into my unit on Bright St., thankfully it receded soon after it started.

MDM, can you see what the current water table levels were at? I've been through torrential rainstorms before and this has never happened. I wonder if the ground already had limited ability to absorb more water because it's been raining so much the last few weeks.

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Re: Tell Trader Joe's to come to Jersey City!
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Probably because there's a lack of adequate retail space that can accommodate such a large store, at least in Downtown JC. You can thank our wonderful neighborhood associations for doing everything they could to limit retail over the years.


True that. But TJ's is actually pretty small as far as these things go.


True, but that puts it in the range of 10-15k square feet as opposed to 25-30 like most supermarkets. There still aren't that many spaces that fit the bill.

I think the new building going up at Grand and Jersey across from Brownstone Diner is slated to have enough retail and is in a prime enough spot to handle a Trader Joe's. I remember rumors that they were trying to attract some high end grocer there. Of course there are the new high rises too, but I think putting something closer to the waterfront makes it difficult to reach for most people in the Grove St. area that don't have a car.

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Re: Tell Trader Joe's to come to Jersey City!
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I've said this before but I just don't understand why JC cannot get a decent grocery store. Whole Foods/TJ's, etc, etc, etc are a dime a dozen in other parts of the country.

Why with all the new development here is this so hard!?


Probably because there's a lack of adequate retail space that can accommodate such a large store, at least in Downtown JC. You can thank our wonderful neighborhood associations for doing everything they could to limit retail over the years.

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Re: 2017 Reval ~ Property Inspections
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Tax abatements has nothing whatsoever to do with this. The problem is that JC hasn't done a reval since 1988, which results in massive imbalances.


You left out that Yvonne, with her hysterical drum beating about property taxes and horror stories of 88, is directly responsible for this delay by making the politicians terrified of doing it. And she cashed out of DT for 100 times her taxes.


How ironic, this bigoted woman that can barely string together a sentence never paid her fair share and who did enormous damage to the VVP area while she was president of the NA, was content to let everyone else cover her. Painful increases for Downtown now because her lies and propaganda wouldn't allow for it to be done in the past, low taxes and a seven figure payout for her. Meanwhile the rest of us get to pay more and she collects her windfall while telling us how great never used parking lots are.

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Re: Man Fatally Struck by Light Rail in JC
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You're so terrible at critical thinking but also so vocal that it's actually kind of fascinating. Are you actually Donald Trump?


Critical thinking? You have narrow streets with lite rail cars on them. There are reported accidents every year. This is not Philadelphia that has wide streets and transit trains and cars share the same space comfortably. It is also compounded by the facts development is happening without parking so more cars cruise the streets looking for available parking. Where is the traffice study done by the city? There hasn't been one since the 1980s. Development is also under a redevelopment plans which eliminates the need for a traffic study. Cities with greater population size has less accidents with cars, people and lite rail.


Then maybe we should bring street cars back to Columbus and Montgomery streets then? Oh wait, something that might improve quality of life and people might find useful can't happen in Yvonne's vision of Jersey City, no siree. The only use of tax dollars should be used to subsidize churches and parking lots while we have a city full of abandoned strip malls and medical offices. Obviously, Jersey City was at its best in 1985.

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Re: Dixon Leasing Cheating JC out of Taxes with the help of Rebecca Sysmes
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I checked and it is Rebecca Symes herself, general counsel for Dixon Properties, who is also president of the Harsimus Cove Neighborhood Association.

http://harsimuscove.org/board-of-directors

Robin.


How on earth did someone like that become president of a neighborhood (NIMBY) association? This is someone these groups usually want to publicly tar and feather.

Posted on: 4/17 19:06
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Re: Candice Osborne running, Not running, running, Not running,
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I really don't understand the hate for her on this forum. If you want to see a truly awful (former) city council member, look at Diane Coleman (and she didn't have a second job, so she had the time to do better). I've interacted with both and nothing but positive interaction with Candice.

At the end of the day, it's a part-time gig that does not pay anywhere close enough to make ends meet and people are going to have to go look elsewhere for income.

A lot of the criticism sounds like it's coming from neighborhood association types that can't get their every NIMBY wish magically fulfilled, like putting a stop to all development everywhere and magic unlimited street parking. Not to mention a few (VNA in particular) are actually fairly corrupt organizations with a good amount of self-dealing by their boards with their own agendas and are probably seeking to put out an early narrative in hopes of electing someone with views closer to theirs.

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Re: Candice Osborne running, Not running, running, Not running,
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It also doesn't help when she proposes legislation that's intended to benefit people in her ward and certain people feel the need to astroturf and call it racist.

Posted on: 4/11 17:38
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Re: Candice Osborne running, Not running, running, Not running,
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It's a simple Question. There are many qualified people wanting to jump into the race but are all in limbo not knowing what our missing in action councilwoman is doing

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Missing in action? She does have a full-time job on top of being on the council. And she's been extremely responsive and helpful toward any concerns I've brought up to her.

Posted on: 4/11 15:24
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Re: Woman filmed as he undress in JC Penny at Newport
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The fat slob will be disappointed when it's revealed this was a man, in actual men's clothing. Isn't there a parking lot she should be trying to save?

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Re: Secaucus Boy Kicked Out of Scouts Because He's Transgender (Petition)
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I just heard that the Catholic branch of the Boys Scout will only admit boys based on their birth certificates, thank God for common sense.


Well, the fat slob either needs to rant on nonsense like this or she can focus on her stupid parking lot crusade. She can't change national trends, we're the ones that have to live with parking lots.

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Re: Glue Vandalism On Locks
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Sounds like a drunk guy from the Latin Lounge. I heard the place is closing down soon thankfully....that bar has been a nightmare in this city for decades!


So a random drunk dude just happens to be carrying around superglue in case he feels like screwing with some homeowners in his drunken haze? Oh, he must also not be white and has to be connected to one of the few non-white bars in the neighborhood.

Very nice veiled racism. You must be on the VNA board.


LOL @ this ridiculous outrage. Yes, lets pretend that a place everyone knows is the source of problems isn't because saying that it is is RACIST!

Also, what is the VNA board?


Yes, let's just assume the perpetrator is some hooligan from a bar we happen to not like, with absolutely no evidence to back this up. Yes, assuming this is a person of color is already suspect. Of course if this person is hispanic, they must have been getting wasted at that hispanic themed bar I don't like!

And usually bar complaints are related to noise. I've never heard someone stumbling out of a bar and supergluing people's locks shut. That remark from 'tinydancer' is just your usual NIMBY garbage and trying to blame an establishment you don't like on every ill in neighborhood.

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