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Re: Democratic Operative Exposes Voter Fraud (He Did it in Hudson County!)
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Ballots found in the trash outside board of elections, so you wonder what ballots were trashed and was not discovered.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politic ... pxgaJSQX04GWWjLIDgW5Fu7nw


Easy answer, since you did not bother to do a bit of research to realize what actually happened. But par for the course for you.

So, the stupid mafia strikes again.

The ballots that were discarded in PA, had no inner security envelopes. The Republicans want ballots without security envelopes,or "naked ballots" tossed, and are sued and won to do so. The county in which this happened is deeply Republican and did so, as per the ruling of the court the Republicans wanted.

So the morons tossed the ballots from overseas soldiers on a technicality they want enforced, and at least seven out of the nine were for Trump.

Own goal in it's dumb finest. But only the best, right?

Nope, just stupid scumbags. Dumb shitheads. Or Republicans.

Same thing.

"If the ballots weren’t then enclosed in another envelope that shielded the actual vote being cast, they may have been considered “naked ballots,” a term used to describe mail ballots returned without the voter’s intent being protected.
If that’s the case, which again isn’t clear, that meant that elections officials who were opening the envelopes to see what they contained may have had to discard the votes, given a recent ruling by the state’s Supreme Court."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politic ... X5l-S5mo1yMd-NNLscOzTDWqg

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Yes, by an Independent Contractor who is thought to be a Trump operative. The sealed ballots were then opened by Bill Barr's justice department who has been aloud to corrupt our system of justice in this country since he took the position. He can fire all of the SDNY prosecutors he likes, Trump will still be indicted when he leaves office.


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Ballots found in the trash outside board of elections, so you wonder what ballots were trashed and was not discovered.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politic ... pxgaJSQX04GWWjLIDgW5Fu7nw

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Ballots found in the trash outside board of elections, so you wonder what ballots were trashed and was not discovered.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politic ... pxgaJSQX04GWWjLIDgW5Fu7nw

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Mine too.

But some people need to post hysterical tripe.

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Wow.... that was interesting long drawn out experience on the NJ DoE site. Suggest everyone go out and check your voter/ballot status.

It says my November ballot was "issued" 9/14. I have not got it yet (9/22) Do you suppose the same USPS operational issues about the system strain collecting/mail processing ballots might be occurring with mail distribution out to voters?

Good thing I saved that DoE url so I can go back to the FAQ to see what I need to do to get a replacement? I love those romantic good ol' days when on election day, I could just walk two blocks to the neighborhood school, sign in, vote and never think twice about whether my vote was counted.


My information noted the same date. I didn't "request" a ballot, so that should be asterisked and accurately noted for the future.

11/03/2020
GENERAL ELECTION

Ballot request type
Single Election
Request received date
08/14/2020

Request status
Accepted
Request processed date
08/30/2020
Ballot issued date
09/14/2020

Ballot received date
N/A
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in NJ, you don't have to request a mail in ballot. everyone gets one automatically. the date under "request received date" is likely the same for everyone (for example, mine shows the same exact date).

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Which "criminals" are you referring to in the opinion piece? Trump is an unindicted co-conspirator in a campaign finance crime. Who's the criminal????? He'll have multiple indictments waiting for him the second he's removed from office.

Oh no, just watch Fox News and Rudy will tell you that you just pay a fine for things like that.


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Your silly comment speaks for itself... protect the criminals while continuing to ignore the real victims of crime. Can't wait for you to use the classic left wing 93/7 argument and that the murder of the little 7 year old girl at a illegal BLM roadblock in Atlanta was a "statistical anomaly" that should not distract from the annual thousands of murders committed by police against POC. I have seen heartless left wingers say that on a number of forums... none have ever had the guts to tell that to the little girl's family. Burn Baby Burn!



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Leave it to the democrats to think that the criminal/sociopath members of our society will save America. That also follows suit with their logic that supports murder, arson and looting in our streets for social justice while completely ignoring the violence perpetrated daily against innocent people by the criminals they seek to "empower" with the vote. Frankly, I doubt that 99% of these "new democrat voters" will even make the effort, so I am not sure all the anxiety is worth it.


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Keep writing those fat checks, Mayor Bloomberg. Democracy is at stake | Editorial

Today 7:00 AM (9-24-20)
By Star-Ledger Editorial Board

By an overwhelming majority, the people of Florida restored the voting rights of most felons in a 2018 ballot referendum, which allowed 775,000 people who had served their sentences to regain the franchise for the first time in decades.

https://www.nj.com/opinion/2020/09/kee ... s-at-stake-editorial.html


As always, zero regard for civil rights from Trumpy goons.

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Right. Like you saw Muslims dancing when the WTC got destroyed.

You're a serial liar.


https://www.nj.com/news/2015/12/exclus ... dents_say_some_musli.html


It was a lie then and a lie now you lying hag.

As for the 'fake ballots' bullshit, they all have a serial number matched to the voter. It can't be faked that way.

You act as if election commissions are full of Republican criminals.


You are calling the paper a liar, I just post it, I did not write the story. Besides, shame on your language. Your parents obviously did a poor job of raising you. But here is something else. A town received the wrong ballots.http://newjersey.news12.com/county-cl ... DXtlIY1TpqgpxZFjMnOxp6vic


Let us not forget the time Yvonne committed electoral fraud when she dropped off petitions full of fraudulent signatures: https://www.courthousenews.com/petitio ... olish-statue-falls-short/

Yvonne loves to complain about fraud but has no problem doing it herself when it suits her purposes. She will gladly get in bed with any HCDO stooge if they promise her parking lots and whatever other nonsense she wants.

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Your silly comment speaks for itself... protect the criminals while continuing to ignore the real victims of crime. Can't wait for you to use the classic left wing 93/7 argument and that the murder of the little 7 year old girl at a illegal BLM roadblock in Atlanta was a "statistical anomaly" that should not distract from the annual thousands of murders committed by police against POC. I have seen heartless left wingers say that on a number of forums... none have ever had the guts to tell that to the little girl's family. Burn Baby Burn!



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Leave it to the democrats to think that the criminal/sociopath members of our society will save America. That also follows suit with their logic that supports murder, arson and looting in our streets for social justice while completely ignoring the violence perpetrated daily against innocent people by the criminals they seek to "empower" with the vote. Frankly, I doubt that 99% of these "new democrat voters" will even make the effort, so I am not sure all the anxiety is worth it.


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Keep writing those fat checks, Mayor Bloomberg. Democracy is at stake | Editorial

Today 7:00 AM (9-24-20)
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By an overwhelming majority, the people of Florida restored the voting rights of most felons in a 2018 ballot referendum, which allowed 775,000 people who had served their sentences to regain the franchise for the first time in decades.

https://www.nj.com/opinion/2020/09/kee ... s-at-stake-editorial.html


As always, zero regard for civil rights from Trumpy goons.

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Leave it to the democrats to think that the criminal/sociopath members of our society will save America. That also follows suit with their logic that supports murder, arson and looting in our streets for social justice while completely ignoring the violence perpetrated daily against innocent people by the criminals they seek to "empower" with the vote. Frankly, I doubt that 99% of these "new democrat voters" will even make the effort, so I am not sure all the anxiety is worth it.


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Keep writing those fat checks, Mayor Bloomberg. Democracy is at stake | Editorial

Today 7:00 AM (9-24-20)
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By an overwhelming majority, the people of Florida restored the voting rights of most felons in a 2018 ballot referendum, which allowed 775,000 people who had served their sentences to regain the franchise for the first time in decades.

https://www.nj.com/opinion/2020/09/kee ... s-at-stake-editorial.html


As always, zero regard for civil rights from Trumpy goons.

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Right. Like you saw Muslims dancing when the WTC got destroyed.

You're a serial liar.


https://www.nj.com/news/2015/12/exclus ... dents_say_some_musli.html


It was a lie then and a lie now you lying hag.

As for the 'fake ballots' bullshit, they all have a serial number matched to the voter. It can't be faked that way.

You act as if election commissions are full of Republican criminals.


You are calling the paper a liar, I just post it, I did not write the story. Besides, shame on your language. Your parents obviously did a poor job of raising you. But here is something else. A town received the wrong ballots.http://newjersey.news12.com/county-cl ... DXtlIY1TpqgpxZFjMnOxp6vic


Try posting a link that actually works and is not to a compromised site that's not secure. Or is basic Internet browsing beyond you?

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I have to laugh at an article that says Democracy is at stake the same day that Trump says he won't leave office if he loses. The only thing that could be problematic for Bloomberg is if this violates any campaign finance laws. But I'm sure none of the Trumpanzees would be complaining if he were paying the fines of Aryan Nation ex-cons with tattoos of Trump emblazoned on their necks.

Also, nj.com is a Trumpian rag anymore and I laughed when they tried to monetize their site.


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Keep writing those fat checks, Mayor Bloomberg. Democracy is at stake | Editorial

Today 7:00 AM (9-24-20)
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By an overwhelming majority, the people of Florida restored the voting rights of most felons in a 2018 ballot referendum, which allowed 775,000 people who had served their sentences to regain the franchise for the first time in decades.

https://www.nj.com/opinion/2020/09/kee ... s-at-stake-editorial.html

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Leave it to the democrats to think that the criminal/sociopath members of our society will save America. That also follows suit with their logic that supports murder, arson and looting in our streets for social justice while completely ignoring the violence perpetrated daily against innocent people by the criminals they seek to "empower" with the vote. Frankly, I doubt that 99% of these "new democrat voters" will even make the effort, so I am not sure all the anxiety is worth it.


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Keep writing those fat checks, Mayor Bloomberg. Democracy is at stake | Editorial

Today 7:00 AM (9-24-20)
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By an overwhelming majority, the people of Florida restored the voting rights of most felons in a 2018 ballot referendum, which allowed 775,000 people who had served their sentences to regain the franchise for the first time in decades.

https://www.nj.com/opinion/2020/09/kee ... s-at-stake-editorial.html

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Keep writing those fat checks, Mayor Bloomberg. Democracy is at stake | Editorial

Today 7:00 AM (9-24-20)
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By an overwhelming majority, the people of Florida restored the voting rights of most felons in a 2018 ballot referendum, which allowed 775,000 people who had served their sentences to regain the franchise for the first time in decades.

https://www.nj.com/opinion/2020/09/kee ... s-at-stake-editorial.html

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Right. Like you saw Muslims dancing when the WTC got destroyed.

You're a serial liar.


https://www.nj.com/news/2015/12/exclus ... dents_say_some_musli.html


It was a lie then and a lie now you lying hag.

As for the 'fake ballots' bullshit, they all have a serial number matched to the voter. It can't be faked that way.

You act as if election commissions are full of Republican criminals.


You are calling the paper a liar, I just post it, I did not write the story. Besides, shame on your language. Your parents obviously did a poor job of raising you. But here is something else. A town received the wrong ballots.http://newjersey.news12.com/county-cl ... DXtlIY1TpqgpxZFjMnOxp6vic

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Right. Like you saw Muslims dancing when the WTC got destroyed.

You're a serial liar.


https://www.nj.com/news/2015/12/exclus ... dents_say_some_musli.html


It was a lie then and a lie now you lying hag.

As for the 'fake ballots' bullshit, they all have a serial number matched to the voter. It can't be faked that way.

You act as if election commissions are full of Republican criminals.

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Jerseymom,

Between sourcing stories from the NY Post, and the BS alarmism about Bloomberg paying fines so ex-felons can vote, I agree she's a Trumpist.

For the record, Florida voters decided to allow ex-felons to vote in a ballot initiative. They overwhelmingly did so.

Then the legislature wrote a law to prevent is unless all fiones and fees were paid, and refused to tell them how much they owed. Bloomberg is working with each ex-convict to research their fees and regain their rights.

And since it's not a campaign contribution, it would be legal if anyone did it., including Russis, you cutesy tool.

Foreign election interference taht people should worry about includes funneling laundered money into PACs, like Russia did with the NRA, and conspiring to release hacked information from the campaigns, like the Trump campaign did with Assange.

God, I hate Trumpy bullshit whining.

And the reason it says your ballot was requested on the 14th is that the NJ Sec of State, who administers el;Section had a ballot requested for all voters on that date, you dullard.

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My ballot arrived today.... A large yellow and red envelope that looks like a piece of junk mail from the New Jersey Lottery You Have Won $1Million Contest. If I was not expecting a voters ballot, it would have gone right into the garbage can. Does not look anything like the Primary Ballot Envelope which I remember to be white, official looking.

Can't wait to see if the JC/State referendum questions are listed appropriately. Google Chrome/Virus Software made the DoE Site difficult, but I have no intention of going back there till April or May of 2021 when I hope all the ballots will be certified, counted, the State Electors are announced and we are ready to know the results of the ballot questions. What a CF this election is going to be.

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It's because she's a closet Trumpanzee who can't openly admit it because she's married to a South American.


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I can't tell if you are being facetious or if you actually have a problem with this (what Bloomberg did). If the latter, why?

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I've yet again sourced the "news" for the unwashed masses - hold your noses my fair JCListers. I mean, jeez, this wouldn't be a conflict if say, another unnamed president did this, or like a foreign country that begins with R and ends in A was the benefactor, right?

Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg has helped pay the outstanding fines and fees of 32,000 convicted felons in Florida so they could regain their right to vote ahead of the November election, according to a report.

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I can't tell if you are being facetious or if you actually have a problem with this (what Bloomberg did). If the latter, why?

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I've yet again sourced the "news" for the unwashed masses - hold your noses my fair JCListers. I mean, jeez, this wouldn't be a conflict if say, another unnamed president did this, or like a foreign country that begins with R and ends in A was the benefactor, right?

Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg has helped pay the outstanding fines and fees of 32,000 convicted felons in Florida so they could regain their right to vote ahead of the November election, according to a report.

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The post has been known as a rag for as long as I can remember. I see the story lines in the Post and they're the mirror image of what you see on Fox News nightly. No, I don't think most news is unreliable. Why? Because I cross reference stories when they don't sound right to me, and guess what? The ones that are incorrect usually come from conservative bastions like the Post. Your particular story may or may not be correct but it is still trying to fulfill the same Trump narrative that "If I lose, it's because mail-in ballots are fraudulent."

Just like NYC is going up in flames. I also have a bridge next door to sell you.






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I am sharing information that is of interest - maybe not to you, but potentially to others. Nothing alarming about it.

I don't see how you can say the NY Post is unreliable when most, if not all contemporary media is unreliable, doesn't adhere to traditional journalistic rigor, and is biased (NY Post included).

The original post was an interesting story and I posted it. It's up to an individual's own experiences to gut check it themselves. Have at it. But given the illustrious history of Hudson County corruption, I'd tend to believe it.

I think we've lost the ability to have normal back-and-forth discourse within the community - at large and in little communities like this. If you post something seemingly "red" or "blue" you're the enemy to another - you're a "Trumptard" or a screaming liberal - or - an alarmist. It's making people not want to talk or share anymore, me included.

Geez.

The biggest takeaway here, and my last comment; please remember to vote.


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You're actually an alarmist in every sense of the word. This thread started with you posting an article from the unreliable NY Post. I wonder if this thread would've been started if Trump were up by 7 points? Hmmm...

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Well here's an interesting story. I had never heard of the tracking system that papadage had supplied (thank you). I tried to register but learned that my email already had an account, which was concerning as I never set one up as far as I remember.

I reset the password and used my typical usernames - none of them worked. I requested my username and it returned a name I would never typically use. Again, I could be wrong and set this up a while ago.

I urge you to get online and check your account if you can. See if one is set up already in your name. If you get a username you don't recognize/remember, please PM me and I'll let you know if it matches mine as it follows an interesting pattern.

Not to be an alarmist in any sense of the word, but this experience does raise my eyebrows a bit.

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FYI other news sources picked up the story...sneaky

Bloomberg Raises Millions So Floridians Convicted Of Nonviolent Felonies Can Pay Off Fines—And Vote

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jackbrews ... es-and-vote/#37d2499a5d62


PS - Clinton was ahead of Trump in late September 2016 by 6 points and we all know how that turned out.

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I am sharing information that is of interest - maybe not to you, but potentially to others. Nothing alarming about it.

I don't see how you can say the NY Post is unreliable when most, if not all contemporary media is unreliable, doesn't adhere to traditional journalistic rigor, and is biased (NY Post included).

The original post was an interesting story and I posted it. It's up to an individual's own experiences to gut check it themselves. Have at it. But given the illustrious history of Hudson County corruption, I'd tend to believe it.

I think we've lost the ability to have normal back-and-forth discourse within the community - at large and in little communities like this. If you post something seemingly "red" or "blue" you're the enemy to another - you're a "Trumptard" or a screaming liberal - or - an alarmist. It's making people not want to talk or share anymore, me included.

Geez.

The biggest takeaway here, and my last comment; please remember to vote.


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You're actually an alarmist in every sense of the word. This thread started with you posting an article from the unreliable NY Post. I wonder if this thread would've been started if Trump were up by 7 points? Hmmm...

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Well here's an interesting story. I had never heard of the tracking system that papadage had supplied (thank you). I tried to register but learned that my email already had an account, which was concerning as I never set one up as far as I remember.

I reset the password and used my typical usernames - none of them worked. I requested my username and it returned a name I would never typically use. Again, I could be wrong and set this up a while ago.

I urge you to get online and check your account if you can. See if one is set up already in your name. If you get a username you don't recognize/remember, please PM me and I'll let you know if it matches mine as it follows an interesting pattern.

Not to be an alarmist in any sense of the word, but this experience does raise my eyebrows a bit.

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You're actually an alarmist in every sense of the word. This thread started with you posting an article from the unreliable NY Post. I wonder if this thread would've been started if Trump were up by 7 points? Hmmm...

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Well here's an interesting story. I had never heard of the tracking system that papadage had supplied (thank you). I tried to register but learned that my email already had an account, which was concerning as I never set one up as far as I remember.

I reset the password and used my typical usernames - none of them worked. I requested my username and it returned a name I would never typically use. Again, I could be wrong and set this up a while ago.

I urge you to get online and check your account if you can. See if one is set up already in your name. If you get a username you don't recognize/remember, please PM me and I'll let you know if it matches mine as it follows an interesting pattern.

Not to be an alarmist in any sense of the word, but this experience does raise my eyebrows a bit.

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Wow.... that was interesting long drawn out experience on the NJ DoE site. Suggest everyone go out and check your voter/ballot status.

It says my November ballot was "issued" 9/14. I have not got it yet (9/22) Do you suppose the same USPS operational issues about the system strain collecting/mail processing ballots might be occurring with mail distribution out to voters?

Good thing I saved that DoE url so I can go back to the FAQ to see what I need to do to get a replacement? I love those romantic good ol' days when on election day, I could just walk two blocks to the neighborhood school, sign in, vote and never think twice about whether my vote was counted.


My information noted the same date. I didn't "request" a ballot, so that should be asterisked and accurately noted for the future.

11/03/2020
GENERAL ELECTION

Ballot request type
Single Election
Request received date
08/14/2020

Request status
Accepted
Request processed date
08/30/2020
Ballot issued date
09/14/2020

Ballot received date
N/A
Ballot status
N/A

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Well here's an interesting story. I had never heard of the tracking system that papadage had supplied (thank you). I tried to register but learned that my email already had an account, which was concerning as I never set one up as far as I remember.

I reset the password and used my typical usernames - none of them worked. I requested my username and it returned a name I would never typically use. Again, I could be wrong and set this up a while ago.

I urge you to get online and check your account if you can. See if one is set up already in your name. If you get a username you don't recognize/remember, please PM me and I'll let you know if it matches mine as it follows an interesting pattern.

Not to be an alarmist in any sense of the word, but this experience does raise my eyebrows a bit.

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Checking your own personal vote, does not stop the phony ballots that will be mailed. Who will check to see if someone voted twice? I still get mail from people that have moved away years ago. Who is going to check those who have died? Who is going to check if noncitizens are voting? To say you can check your own ballot does not stop the corruption that will happen.

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Wow.... that was interesting long drawn out experience on the NJ DoE site. Suggest everyone go out and check your voter/ballot status.

It says my November ballot was "issued" 9/14. I have not got it yet (9/22) Do you suppose the same USPS operational issues about the system strain collecting/mail processing ballots might be occurring with mail distribution out to voters?

Good thing I saved that DoE url so I can go back to the FAQ to see what I need to do to get a replacement? I love those romantic good ol' days when on election day, I could just walk two blocks to the neighborhood school, sign in, vote and never think twice about whether my vote was counted.

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Not romanticizing the past... and certainly understand there are potential fraud risks using a tabulating vote machine, but I have more faith in a process where I can countersign a voter registration book and enter a booth to push buttons for my candidates in my own neighborhood. Not much more than standing in line today for a D&D Coffee and doughnut.

As opposed to taking 30+ minutes to comprehend the mail ballot voter instructions, finally make my mark, double check my work and walking over to Washington St. USPS branch to drop an envelope in a slot.

Seems to me making people use Provo Ballots heightens the pandemic risk you are worried about... people still need to be onsite for that messy process.... thanks for the voter ballot check link. I will certainly check it out, assuming they have finished counting the June Primary votes.

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You can track your ballot online:

https://www.nj.gov/state/elections/vote-track-my-ballot.shtml

And even in the past, with the old machines, you depended on 17-year-old volunteers to transcribe the vote counts by party to scantrons.

Don't romanticize the past just to make excuses for making it harder to vote in a pandemic. It puts elderly poll volunteers in danger.

And your identity is only on the outside envelope, not the inner one, so you still have a confidential vote.

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I for one never trusted the New Jersey voting machines. They were probably fine, but the total lack of paper trail made them totally suspect to me.

There was a documentary on HBO that aired after the Bush Gore debacle about voting machines in Florida. These were not the chad producing machines that were in use in some counties, they were paper ballot scanners. They picked a random set of them off the shelf from a voting machine storage location, zeroed them all out and scanned a small set of ballots with known and verified numbers of votes and if I remember correctly the macines all spit out results that did not match the known ballots that were used.

All in favor of the Republican candidates.

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I've yet again sourced the "news" for the unwashed masses - hold your noses my fair JCListers. I mean, jeez, this wouldn't be a conflict if say, another unnamed president did this, or like a foreign country that begins with R and ends in A was the benefactor, right?

Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg has helped pay the outstanding fines and fees of 32,000 convicted felons in Florida so they could regain their right to vote ahead of the November election, according to a report.

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