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Owners of large SUV's should have to pay $1,500 a year for their residential parking stickers. Owners of commercial vehicles should have to pay $4,000.00 a year for a residential parking sticker


Thankfully, you are not in charge of public policy. Here is the problem with your stand: some SUVs are so compact as to be smaller than most mid-size sedans. Heck, of the top 10 SUVs sold in the US last year, almost all are about the same length as a Ford Fusion, with only two being about a foot longer.


So true, they're compact cars in SUV drag, a lot of them aren't even 4 or all wheel drive.

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Owners of large SUV's should have to pay $1,500 a year for their residential parking stickers. Owners of commercial vehicles should have to pay $4,000.00 a year for a residential parking sticker


Thankfully, you are not in charge of public policy. Here is the problem with your stand: some SUVs are so compact as to be smaller than most mid-size sedans. Heck, of the top 10 SUVs sold in the US last year, almost all are about the same length as a Ford Fusion, with only two being about a foot longer.

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...people complain if they have to walk a half block to a store or restaurant.


We have some of those here... (cough, Yvonne, cough)

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Car density, yes - permit fees, no. New Brunswick is another good example. If you actually spent time in your car at those locations, like I have, you would immediately agree. Or you can look at their municipal websites to see the chatter about parking issues and challenges.

The original point is JC's very low parking fees are not helpful with respect to parking or having to constantly navigate around double parked cars.


Other than Front or Broad Streets there is no parking issue in Red Bank; like many suburban towns people complain if they have to walk a half block to a store or restaurant. Comparing JC parking to Red Bank parking is absurd.

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Car density, yes - permit fees, no. New Brunswick is another good example. If you actually spent time in your car at those locations, like I have, you would immediately agree. Or you can look at their municipal websites to see the chatter about parking issues and challenges.

The original point is JC's very low parking fees are not helpful with respect to parking or having to constantly navigate around double parked cars.

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Yup, Red Bank and Jersey City are so comparable.

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Definitely not true. Sorry.Take a look.

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Parking permits are crazy low in Jersey City compared to other NJ municipalities. Check out Red Bank as an example.


Different density, certainly not a valid comparison.

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Parking permits are crazy low in Jersey City compared to other NJ municipalities. Check out Red Bank as an example.

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Registration costs are more expensive for heavyweight cars, so big SUV’s are paying more. And because they use more gas they’re paying more in gas tax. Force them off street? Not going to happen.

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Anyone who voluntarily wants to own a huge car is free to pay to park it in a garage somewhere if they want. But owning a huge car in a city is ridiculous. It's a very, very suburban mentality. And it exacerbates the parking problem. And it's just plain out stupid.

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I sense a 'tax the rich' sentiment here, but plenty of middle and lower class people drive SUV's. It'd be hugely regressive.

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My, my, my...

What about all of the too large Uber vehicles?

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Owners of large SUV's should have to pay $1,500 a year for their residential parking stickers. Owners of commercial vehicles should have to pay $4,000.00 a year for a residential parking sticker


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The parkign authority should also restrict the last few spots on the street by each corner from being allowed for SUVs. They cut off too much visibility at stop signs.


You mean the agency that winks at this kind of parking at Monmouth & 13th? Makes that turn very dangerous with 2 way traffic. That whole L shaped section between 10th and Coles should be one way anyway.

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Owners of large SUV's should have to pay $1,500 a year for their residential parking stickers. Owners of commercial vehicles should have to pay $4,000.00 a year for a residential parking sticker

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> The issue is not so much the SUVs themselves but the drivers.

Or perhaps it is just folks ability to critically reason...

Not that I want to be hit by another DRIVER, but if it happens, I prefer that it be from a DRIVER of a vehicle that weighs much less, like a passenger car, than a truck or another form of a truck known as a SUV (vehicle on a truck chassis).

> Newer SUVs are not prone to rollover due to them having a lower center of gravity than trucks had historically. Many SUVs are now just dressed up minivans built on car like platforms.


"Nonetheless, the high clearance of SUVs and trucks makes these vehicles more likely to tip over when hitting an obstruction on the road. NHTSA rollover testing aims to assess each vehicle for its propensity to flip while driving, and the latest vehicles showed some flaws in this department. Here are the 10 SUVs and trucks that presented the highest risk of tipping over on the road."

from 10 Trucks and SUVs With the Highest Risk of Tipping Over
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https://www.cheatsheet.com/automobiles ... isk-of-tipping-over.html/


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Newer SUVs are not prone to rollover due to them having a lower center of gravity than trucks had historically. Many SUVs are now just dressed up minivans built on car like platforms.

The issue is not so much the SUVs themselves but the drivers. Many of them just don't know how to drive in an urban environment. The parkign authority should also restrict the last few spots on the street by each corner from being allowed for SUVs. They cut off too much visibility at stop signs.

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Yeah -about the topic of safety...It is not safe for the car that gets hit by the 4 ton truck, err um SUV, that incidentally is more prone to rolling over.

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I always scoffed at SUVs in the past. However, looking at the number of accidents (mostly rear enders) occurring in increasing numbers I picked up a 2002 Mercury Mountaineer for a little over 3k and my wife and I have never been more comfortable or felt more safe amid the chaos on the roads daily.

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And I’m pointing out the obvious.


So perfectly meta.

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I imagine those accident reportings are either national or state wide. New cars have a host of safety features regardless of size of cars. Urban living warrants using more mini cars. We're not living in Berkley Heights here. Though newer constituents think they still do. When I ever i see a man in a huge SUV, I just assume small penis. Whenever I see a woman in a huge SUV I assume her husband has a small penis.

I imagine the same people in JC who drive huge SUVs and other utility vehicles also want to lobby for a Bennigans and Houlihans as well as more high chairs in restaurants and sports bars.

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I think that the safety of the occupants plays large in vehicle choice.
I always scoffed at SUVs in the past. However, looking at the number of accidents (mostly rear enders) occurring in increasing numbers I picked up a 2002 Mercury Mountaineer for a little over 3k and my wife and I have never been more comfortable or felt more safe amid the chaos on the roads daily.

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And I most definitely did not say that ALL parking woes are caused by people chooses SUVs over cars. I said getting a HUGE SUV unnecessarily exacerbates an already difficult parking problem.

Some SUV, like the Mazdz CX5 aren't any longer than the average sedan.
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But, don't be so quick so ascribe all parking woes to people choosing SUVs over cars. Since 2006, Jersey City has grown by 13% (a little over 30K people) so there is obviously a lot more people, and many of those have cars, and most of the growth has happened in DTJC, so the growth percentage for DTJC is certainly higher than the city's overall growth rate.

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I tried a jury case for a bicylist who was hit by an SUV turning off of 440. She was rushing to make the light and slammed into my client.


Assumming your client was riding on the sidewalk to be hit by a vehicle turning off of 440, which is a divided highway.

This is why bicycle riding on the siedwalk can be *more* dangerous than riding on the street, drivers don't expect fast moving bicycles to be moving across the crosswalk from the sidewalk, and so they get hit.

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That's a very suburban mentality.

It's become very obvious that a lot of people who have more recently moved to Jersey City, really aren't City Folk. Their suburbanites wanting to feel like City slickers and the SUVs and Trucks evidence that.

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Manufacturers are building fewer and fewer cars (sedans) because most of America isn't buying them. Take Ford for example, they are axing all of their car lineup except for the Mustang and one other (can't remember). Our culture has a purchasing addiction, and because we have so much stuff, we needs places to put it, so we buy huge homes and huge cars to store all our shit. Eventually we buy so much stuff we run out of places to put it, so we "need to upgrade." Parents have also been convinced that the only way to bring a child into this world is to strap them into the back seat of a 2 ton, 16ft family car. 'Murica.


You try carpooling kids in car seats in your 2 door mustang


If I had a Mustang I would certainly at least try. I award you -1 point for reading comprehension.


Actually you should re read what I wrote. I never stated you owned a Mustang. I said "try". So I'll take the point back from you.


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But that's the thing. Some of these SUVs are huge. The little lady virtually needs a step ladder to get in to it. Yet, often enough it only seats two in the front and three in the back- the same as a two door compact. I tried a jury case for a bicylist who was hit by an SUV turning off of 440. She was rushing to make the light and slammed into my client. My jury was all female and they all seemed to think that SUVs rule and that no bikes or pedestrians should be on the road.

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Manufacturers are building fewer and fewer cars (sedans) because most of America isn't buying them. Take Ford for example, they are axing all of their car lineup except for the Mustang and one other (can't remember). Our culture has a purchasing addiction, and because we have so much stuff, we needs places to put it, so we buy huge homes and huge cars to store all our shit. Eventually we buy so much stuff we run out of places to put it, so we "need to upgrade." Parents have also been convinced that the only way to bring a child into this world is to strap them into the back seat of a 2 ton, 16ft family car. 'Murica.


You try carpooling kids in car seats in your 2 door mustang


If I had a Mustang I would certainly at least try. I award you -1 point for reading comprehension.


Actually you should re read what I wrote. I never stated you owned a Mustang. I said "try". So I'll take the point back from you.

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Manufacturers are building fewer and fewer cars (sedans) because most of America isn't buying them. Take Ford for example, they are axing all of their car lineup except for the Mustang and one other (can't remember). Our culture has a purchasing addiction, and because we have so much stuff, we needs places to put it, so we buy huge homes and huge cars to store all our shit. Eventually we buy so much stuff we run out of places to put it, so we "need to upgrade." Parents have also been convinced that the only way to bring a child into this world is to strap them into the back seat of a 2 ton, 16ft family car. 'Murica.


You try carpooling kids in car seats in your 2 door mustang


If I had a Mustang I would certainly at least try. I award you -1 point for reading comprehension.

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Test drive a Soul. Great car, dirt cheap, and the base model comes with tons of stuff like bluetooth that's higher trim on other cars. You'll swear there's a spacewarp that makes it bigger on the inside than it looks from the outside. It's wide, so you can probably get 2 kid seats in plus another passenger. I know we had 2 boosters and another kid. Plus you can get nice aftermarket roof rails and shlep sheets of plywood or drywall.
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I'll check it out. I have a bias against Korean made cars I need to reconsider (from several bad experiences many years ago). Right now I have been looking at used mini vans, just in case we end up with twins (albeit very unlikely).

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