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So you are stating that taxes are low due to the market value of your area based on your income ?


No, I'm stating the effective tax rate (how I and most people define "high" vs 'Low") for JC is average for North Jersey and the Metropolitan Area with the exception of NYC with it's subsidized taxes. If you want to state a different measure that's fine, but define it rather than just saying "the taxes are too damn high!"

Dan, to base an argument about taxes on the notion that all the properties would have been built anyway is quite a big assumption. It's an accusation that the entire abatement program is corrupt top to bottom, beginning to no end in sight. I doubt that's true, though certainly the most recent DT abatements are unnecessary. But something like the NJCU project sounds like what the program was meant for, development in a "blighted area".

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You see, this is the evasion and doubling down that makes you look like an idiot. I'm certain the county administrator did not tell you that JC's taxes are "high". "High" is a relative term, you do know what that means Ms Former Teacher? I believe it's covered on Sesame Street. The answer you are unwilling to address is what is our taxes are "high" relative to. When I say they're not high for our area, you burble, say nonsense, repeat yourself at the first opportunity, and then wonder why people think you're disingenuous and/or a fool.

Wrong on so many levels Brewster. So you are stating that taxes are low due to the market value of your area based on your income ?

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It's hard to compute the net change in taxes due to PILOTing, but assuming that these buildings would be built anyway even if they had to pay normal taxes, my guess is that on the net, JC's PILOTed properties increase taxes for everyone else in Jersey City and certainly increase taxes for people living in other towns in Hudson County.



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You see, this is the evasion and doubling down that makes you look like an idiot. I'm certain the county administrator did not tell you that JC's taxes are "high". "High" is a relative term, you do know what that means Ms Former Teacher? I believe it's covered on Sesame Street. The answer you are unwilling to address is what is our taxes are "high" relative to. When I say they're not high for our area, you burble, say nonsense, repeat yourself at the first opportunity, and then wonder why people think you're disingenuous and/or a fool.

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She also says again and again that "taxes are high" without justifying it even when called out on it repeatedly. Not to mention always injecting the abatement issue into the reval discussion, when they actually have absolutely nothing to do with each other. We'd need a reval even if the Yvonne the Witch of the West (bank) waved her wand and made the abatements disappear, since the reval is about fairness between the taxpayers.

It truly appears she lacks the wits to understand these issues, and when called out always doubles down like her man tRump.


brewster, my information comes from the county administrator, we pay his salary to come up with his facts that I quote. It is not my facts at all.


I think it's fair to say that abatements lower your municipal taxes and raise your school taxes and county taxes, although the increase in school and county taxes is a missed offset opportunity, and not a true, net increase.

JC structures PILOT agreements so that the municipality gets more money than it would from regular taxation. For instance, instead of getting 50% of a $1 million all-in tax bill, it gets 95% of $750k PILOT payment.

PILOTed buildings don't give the schools any money at all and pay county fees at a significantly reduced rate.

If JC's PILOTed buildings paid normal taxes, they would offset the overall school levy and by a small but palpable amount for county taxes.

Since a third of JC is PILOTed (by far the state's highest total), the effect on school taxes is very significant.

My estimate is that JC's PILOTed buildings would have an Equalized Valuation of about $10-11 billion 2017. Hudson County's total Equalized Valuation is $71 billion.

Jersey City's PILOTed buildings are thus 15% of Hudson County's total. They do pay some money to the county, but 15% is a palpable impact even on the county's tax levy for the owners of non-PILOTed buildings.

It's hard to compute the net change in taxes due to PILOTing, but assuming that these buildings would be built anyway even if they had to pay normal taxes, my guess is that on the net, JC's PILOTed properties increase taxes for everyone else in Jersey City and certainly increase taxes for people living in other towns in Hudson County.

Steve Sweeney is actually trying to reform the PILOT law. It's part of his state aid reform package, although he's not spoken in public (AFAIK) about what changes he wants to happen with PILOTs.

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She also says again and again that "taxes are high" without justifying it even when called out on it repeatedly. Not to mention always injecting the abatement issue into the reval discussion, when they actually have absolutely nothing to do with each other. We'd need a reval even if the Yvonne the Witch of the West (bank) waved her wand and made the abatements disappear, since the reval is about fairness between the taxpayers.

It truly appears she lacks the wits to understand these issues, and when called out always doubles down like her man tRump.


brewster, my information comes from the county administrator, we pay his salary to come up with his facts that I quote. It is not my facts at all.

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She also says again and again that "taxes are high" without justifying it even when called out on it repeatedly. Not to mention always injecting the abatement issue into the reval discussion, when they actually have absolutely nothing to do with each other. We'd need a reval even if the Yvonne the Witch of the West (bank) waved her wand and made the abatements disappear, since the reval is about fairness between the taxpayers.

It truly appears she lacks the wits to understand these issues, and when called out always doubles down like her man tRump.

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She writes about County taxes when the thread is about reevaluating the City tax base. The city reval will not change +/- the amount the city collects for the county in the form of county taxes.

She also mentions churches and schools not being taxed. Why would a school be taxed when it is supported by local taxes?

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"not taxed" != "abatement"

"Abatement is a reduction in the level of taxation faced by an individual or company. Examples of an abatement include a tax decrease, a reduction in penalties or a rebate. If an individual or business overpays its taxes or receives a tax bill that is too high, it can request an abatement from the tax authorities."
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Ralph, you are ignoring the fact that the county does not include tax abated property, or pilots in the formula when the county strikes the budget. If they did then the ratable base would be high and our tax bill would be much lower. I don't make this up, I do call the people who work on our budget in the county.



You're not very smart, yeah?

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"Abatement is a reduction in the level of taxation faced by an individual or company. Examples of an abatement include a tax decrease, a reduction in penalties or a rebate. If an individual or business overpays its taxes or receives a tax bill that is too high, it can request an abatement from the tax authorities."
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Ralph, you are ignoring the fact that the county does not include tax abated property, or pilots in the formula when the county strikes the budget. If they did then the ratable base would be high and our tax bill would be much lower. I don't make this up, I do call the people who work on our budget in the county.


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"not taxed" != "abatement"

"Abatement is a reduction in the level of taxation faced by an individual or company. Examples of an abatement include a tax decrease, a reduction in penalties or a rebate. If an individual or business overpays its taxes or receives a tax bill that is too high, it can request an abatement from the tax authorities."
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So that means the information that is printed in the county is false, Ralph? Look it up it is usally on page 4 or 6 where it lists other properties not taxed. It is separate from schools and public buildings, and churches. These are taxed abated properties that are not included in the ratable base. Besides I always call the county adminstrator every year and go over the numbers.

I should also include the state of NJ for lying about this too, Ralph.

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The taxes are high because abatements are not included in the ratable base. Several billion dollars are not there so when the county strikes the budget, it is based on ratables, not abated buildings.


Not correct. If you excluded abatement revenue from the municipal budget, the property tax rate will be much, much higher.

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The taxes are high because abatements are not included in the ratable base. Several billion dollars are not there so when the county strikes the budget, it is based on ratables, not abated buildings.

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Market conditions change. It just so happens that real estate market conditions in JC have improved tremendously over the past two years, with year-over-year valuation going up over 15%, while the city budget has grown very little, so the total tax rate needed to cover government costs has continued to drop.

To explain it a different way, the rate is determined by what total tax, the Levy, is determined to be. They don't just keep the same effective rate as the values go up and let the cash roll in.
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The high property tax issue for JC is the reason that we should enact a payroll tax.


So now I have to say this to you as well as Yvonne: Prove JC taxes are high!! They're average for North Jersey, and after the reval might actually be on the low side. You can find on this page the rate of every town in NJ http://www.state.nj.us/treasury/taxation/lpt/taxrate.shtml

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I understand taxes are going to go up a lot on many downtown properties, but there is a big difference between 1.7% and 2% (or 2.2% as I believe Bodipooh speculated in some of his earlier missives).

The fact is we just don't know what the rate we will be, the only thing we can say is that if the appraisals are done correctly a $1 million house downtown should end up paying 4 times as much as a $250,000 place in the heights. Now if the heights house is actually valued at $500,000 (extended over the whole heights), it 'reduces' the downtown home's tax to only twice what the heights house is paying.

If you have been watching the market in the past two years it is not just downtown prices that are on the boil.

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I know most people have trouble with numbers, so I will try to explain: three years ago, when the reval was first cancelled, the estimated effective tax rate was about ~2.2%. That is the reason why that number was bandied about back then. Then the effective rate was closer to 2, and now we are looking at about 1.8%. That doesn't mean the numbers were inaccurate. It just means that for the market conditions in 2014, that 2.2% was correct, but it has since changed. A similar analogy would be to look at unemployment rates from years ago, and compare the number to present day and exclaim "well, those numbers were obviously wrong." Market conditions change. It just so happens that real estate market conditions in JC have improved tremendously over the past two years, with year-over-year valuation going up over 15%, while the city budget has grown very little, so the total tax rate needed to cover government costs has continued to drop.


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When we live in one of the states with the highest taxes in the nation, I doubt people want to cough up another 1% or even .5%, unless the increase is offset by a reduction somewhere else.

just my $0.02

Meh... No one likes paying taxes.

And again, since this is revenue neutral, in order for one person's tax bill to go up, another person's tax bill has to go down. This is about fairness, not about socking people for higher taxes.

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It still amazes me that people thought the taxes they were paying on some of these DTJC properties was correct....

I don' think most people have any clue how real estate taxes are calculated. They just look at the sheet, see "ok that's the tax," and hate paying no matter what the amount.

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i was looking at properties for sale and i noticed that prices in the heights seemed to have jumped significantly. i almost fell backwards when i saw the prices! if owners are realizing such prices, that should have an mitigate the impact of the reval on downtown


I agree - the Heights is not cheap.

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When we live in one of the states with the highest taxes in the nation, I doubt people want to cough up another 1% or even .5%, unless the increase is offset by a reduction somewhere else.

just my $0.02

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The high property tax issue for JC is the reason that we should enact a payroll tax. Schundler tried to but Whitman, in order to elect McGreevy, had the law changed so that only Newark is a city of the "First Class" with ability to tax. A 1% payroll tax would not hurt Jersey City's comptetiveness with NYC is between 3.5 and 4% and would be the same as Newark's. Moreover, there is a 50% credit, I believe, so that a 1% payroll deduction ends up being only a .5% cost to the taxpayer. I have not heard anyone mention this tax in years.

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It still amazes me that people thought the taxes they were paying on some of these DTJC properties was correct. When I bought downtown I knew something was wrong with the taxes when I saw how low they were. A simple call to the assessors office quickly confirmed my thoughts. After that I started to squirrel away money for the inevitable increase in taxes. Since then we moved up to the Lincoln Park area, but I still know my taxes are too low for the house.

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I understand taxes are going to go up a lot on many downtown properties, but there is a big difference between 1.7% and 2% (or 2.2% as I believe Bodipooh speculated in some of his earlier missives).

The fact is we just don't know what the rate we will be, the only thing we can say is that if the appraisals are done correctly a $1 million house downtown should end up paying 4 times as much as a $250,000 place in the heights. Now if the heights house is actually valued at $500,000 (extended over the whole heights), it 'reduces' the downtown home's tax to only twice what the heights house is paying.

If you have been watching the market in the past two years it is not just downtown prices that are on the boil.

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Keep dreaming...the 2% or 1.79% already factors in estimated city-wide increases in valuation. The properties paying < %1 today will still end up paying close to double.


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I understand taxes are going to go up a lot on many downtown properties, but there is a big difference between 1.7% and 2% (or 2.2% as I believe Bodipooh speculated in some of his earlier missives).

The fact is we just don't know what the rate we will be, the only thing we can say is that if the appraisals are done correctly a $1 million house downtown should end up paying 4 times as much as a $250,000 place in the heights. Now if the heights house is actually valued at $500,000 (extended over the whole heights), it 'reduces' the downtown home's tax to only twice what the heights house is paying.

If you have been watching the market in the past two years it is not just downtown prices that are on the boil.

Robin.

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The way house prices have appreciated over the past couple of years will naturally lead to a fall in the tax rate, otherwise they are going to be collecting double the taxes they were previously.

Bodipooh bandies this 2% figure about, but it is based on nothing more than his own speculation.

1 or 2 family houses in the heights are now worth $400,000+, every one or two family in Journal Square is now worth $600,000+, if they all pay 2% the city would end up with too much money!

Robin.


If you assume the County calculates the assessed to true value ratio correctly (see column 2 in link), then Bodipooh's math is accurate. The difference between % increase in taxes and % house price appreciation will have an impact - but not as much as you might think. A huge number of downtown properties will see their taxes double - and ~1.8% of market value isn't an unreasonable estimate.


http://www.state.nj.us/treasury/taxat ... df/lptval/2016/Hudson.pdf

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There are a few pockets in DT that are "just enough" higher that they didn't have standing water during Sandy. I think this links properly:

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For Sandy - the map may be correct wrt basement flooding. But street-level flooding has been nowhere near as extensive anytime in the past decade - at least not west of Marin and north of Columbus. In this area, Sandy would have looked more like 3-4m on this link: http://geology.com/sea-level-rise/new-york.shtml


The sewers were the conduit for much of the flooding allowing the water to bypass high spots.


I agreed with your own post back in 2013. Think some of the newspapers published the 100-year flood elevation map as the "areas flooded by Sandy" - creating this myth on the extent of flooding. It's simply wrong.

http://jclist.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?post_id=328138

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There are a few pockets in DT that are "just enough" higher that they didn't have standing water during Sandy. I think this links properly:

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For Sandy - the map may be correct wrt basement flooding. But street-level flooding has been nowhere near as extensive anytime in the past decade - at least not west of Marin and north of Columbus. In this area, Sandy would have looked more like 3-4m on this link: http://geology.com/sea-level-rise/new-york.shtml


The sewers were the conduit for much of the flooding allowing the water to bypass high spots.

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For Sandy - the map may be correct wrt basement flooding. But street-level flooding has been nowhere near as extensive anytime in the past decade - at least not west of Marin and north of Columbus. In this area, Sandy would have looked more like 3-4m on this link: http://geology.com/sea-level-rise/new-york.shtml

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They have been constantly ripping up the roads west to east over the past couple of years installing huge sewer lines. Last I checked - they were ripping up 6th street (again?). PSE&G have also been through most of downtown "hardening" their gas lines in the past few months.

Time will tell if it's enough - but can't claim they've done nothing since Sandy.


They're not doing my street. Someone at the MUA claimed it was fine in their survey, even though when the MUA ran a cam down it 18 years ago they reported a 18" diameter brick sewer filled with longitudinal and offset cracks.


I even remember wood sewer pipes, many of them running under people's back yards (instead of down the street). They were built like barrels with staves and hoops, coated with creosote on the inside. When they collapsed it was a disaster and a very-expensive excavation to connect to the new line in the street.

There are a few pockets in DT that are "just enough" higher that they didn't have standing water during Sandy. I think this links properly:

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