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Re: Fugitives nabbed by cutting off their welfare benefits
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there were lazy people before welfare yes.

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the only reason for collecting welfare I might agree with is disabilty but that is abused 9 out of 10 times. the other reasons you mention are bad excuses for being lazy. you might as well add being fat to your list of reasons to collect.

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Individuals may apply for welfare due to disability, lack of education or job training, a low demand for unskilled labor, or substance abuse.

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If you pay people to stay poor, they'll stay poor.

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its hard to believe isnt it? Yes welfare causes a cycle of poverty. if it worked you wouldnt have generations of families on welfare.


So before welfare programs came into being, there wasn't poverty?

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its hard to believe isnt it? Yes welfare causes a cycle of poverty. if it worked you wouldnt have generations of families on welfare.

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Welfare programs cause poverty?

If welfare programs were done away with poverty would go away?

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Its not the sheer $ figure of welfare that concerns me. It has to do with the fact that welfare cripples entire communities. In my opinion it is as crippling to an individual and cm=ommunity as crack cocaine.

I also think welfare should be for a max 6 months and the more babies should not = more welfare vouchers.

Housing Projects and welfare ruin communites and the middle class get the brunt of it. The rich live on their estates far from any signs of this blight.

Wall Street bailouts are intented to help the economy. Welfare does not spur or help the the economy or the individual. It promotes laziness and takes away self pride.
Its a failed socialist system that hasnt worked anywhere except in a college classroom promoted by a socialist professor.

Believe me it makes me sick to my stomach when these corporate fat cats get $40 milliion bonuses when a company is going belly up.

Yes the war is costing an astronomical amount and we can argue and probably would both agree in hind sight it was a mistake to go into Iraq.

I think most Americans including GWB (and just about everyone in both parties that voted for the war) would press the reset button if they could, but we are there for God knows how long.

Cut taxes and cut spending.


Couldn't agree with you more. Government spending by and large is inefficient, ineffective, corrupting and leads to negative unintended consequences. The less the better.

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Its not the sheer $ figure of welfare that concerns me. It has to do with the fact that welfare cripples entire communities. In my opinion it is as crippling to an individual and cm=ommunity as crack cocaine.

I also think welfare should be for a max 6 months and the more babies should not = more welfare vouchers.

Housing Projects and welfare ruin communites and the middle class get the brunt of it. The rich live on their estates far from any signs of this blight.

Wall Street bailouts are intented to help the economy. Welfare does not spur or help the the economy or the individual. It promotes laziness and takes away self pride.
Its a failed socialist system that hasnt worked anywhere except in a college classroom promoted by a socialist professor.

Believe me it makes me sick to my stomach when these corporate fat cats get $40 milliion bonuses when a company is going belly up.

Yes the war is costing an astronomical amount and we can argue and probably would both agree in hind sight it was a mistake to go into Iraq.

I think most Americans including GWB (and just about everyone in both parties that voted for the war) would press the reset button if they could, but we are there for God knows how long.

Cut taxes and cut spending.

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What costs more, welfare program for families in need or the Wall Street bail out? or how about the war in Iraq?

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I say cut spending all the time. We have WAY to many wasteful programs. The only ones you hear on the news are when hospitals get cut and everyone gets scared.

There is so much waste its ridiculous. Its always so easy to just pass the blame to the rich. Let them pay for everything. I'm not rich (Probably nobody on this board is), but raising taxes on the rich isn't the answer.

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Cut Taxes Now !


Once, just once, I'd like to see a guy like you with the slogan: CUT SPENDING NOW! It doesn't happen. They cut taxes on the rich and the rest of us have to pick up the slack as the country descends into deficits and debt. Cutting taxes has never actually shrunk the budget. No, not even Saint Reagan's tenure. He spent all he cut from people on the military.

There's a study about morality where the subject is asked if he would warn someone of a danger if that persons act of avoidance would cause 5 more deaths. Most people say they would keep silent. But when the choice comes to actually acting to kill the 1 to save the many, most won't do that either. The cool thing was the choices activated different parts of the brain.

My point is that "cutting taxes" is disconnected from having to look your victim in the eye. It's much easier to say "cut taxes" than to actually say "set criminals free, cut school budgets, cut the military budget, cut road and transit, etc.

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au contraire

I am a self employed entrepenuer and investor. I dont make alot of cash flow money and I have enough write offs to choke a horse therefore I legally get all my hard earned federal tax money back. I bought a tax loopholes book for $20 bucks and read it from front to back.

Its on the state level I get crushed. All the property tax I pay gets pissed away on ineffective schooling, welfare and other govt programs that dont work. Not to mention the money wasted on the detention and corrections system.
The police cant even do their jobs effectively because their hands are tied thanks to the drunk mayor and the corrupt governor.

Dont give me that more money spent on the schools is the answer. The schools cant even teach these kids about moral and ethical behavior and they sure as hell arent getting it from their absentee parents.

Im alll for youth programs etc but its the irresponsible welfare parents that are not making sure their own kids are attending school. Its a lost cause. Welfare and section 8 teach dependence not responsibilty.

I feel bad for all the \"employees\" that see half their paychecks get pissed away on govt waste. On both the state and federal level. Cut Taxes Now !

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That prep school punk you voted for twice blew your hard earned money.

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I was mocking all the bleeding hearts and communists on the board.

Viva La Revolucion !

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Each victim should receive $10,000 per month for life no questions asked rather than 10 to life. The ACLU should also file a class action lawsuit on behalf of all welfare recipients and sue the federal govt and George Bush for $1 billion so it can be split up amongst all the under privelaged in our society.



Your use of the word "victim" is frightening. On the first read of this diatribe, I thought it was perhaps a joke.

If it's not a joke, then you're a friggin' idiot.


the laughing smiley usually gives it away

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Each victim should receive $10,000 per month for life no questions asked rather than 10 to life. The ACLU should also file a class action lawsuit on behalf of all welfare recipients and sue the federal govt and George Bush for $1 billion so it can be split up amongst all the under privelaged in our society.



Your use of the word "victim" is frightening. On the first read of this diatribe, I thought it was perhaps a joke.

If it's not a joke, then you're a friggin' idiot.

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THIS IS RASCISM ! I hope these people get triple damages for the mental distress they have to endure because of this.

Each victim should receive $10,000 per month for life no questions asked rather than 10 to life. The ACLU should also file a class action lawsuit on behalf of all welfare recipients and sue the federal govt and George Bush for $1 billion so it can be split up amongst all the under privelaged in our society.

As Barack Obama says its the the trickle up economy. Viva La Revolucion !

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busted 57 fugitives this month by cutting off their welfare benefits


sigh... Paying fugitives with my hard earned money. This should be automatic, if you are in jail or a fugitive you do not get welfare or SS.

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Fugitives nabbed by 'Talon'

Saturday, March 29, 2008
By MICHAELANGELO CONTE
JOURNAL STAFF WRITER

The Hudson County Sheriff's Office has busted 57 fugitives this month by cutting off their welfare benefits and arresting them when they showed up at the county welfare office to find out what the hangup was.

Among those arrested in the program, dubbed Operation Talon, which began on March 3, were 42 fugitives from Jersey City, five from Bayonne, four from North Bergen, two from Guttenberg and one each from Hoboken and West New York, according to the Sheriff's Office.

Among those arrested were Karen Gibbs, 25, of Jersey City, who was wanted on an aggravated assault charge and violation of probation, officials said. McArthur Davenport, 52, of Jersey City, was wanted for drug possession and a violation of probation, officials said.

Others arrested were wanted in connection with drug possession, forgery, obtaining prescription drugs by fraud, failure to pay child support or other crimes, said Hudson County Sheriff Juan Perez.

About 80 of those being sought did not fall for the ploy and they will be tracked down, Sheriff's Office spokesman Robert Knapp said.

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