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4 MORE MURDERS IN 24 HOURS in Newark by the Senator elect who said he was going to make safety the number one priority as mayor of Newark.
He's a perfect adjunct to the guy who said, no matter what, you'd be able to keep the health plan and the doctors you liked. Oopsie.
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Wishful, exactly what cities/states/towns did the Tea Party usurp through non-election means? If there was a military or radical takeover somewhere in the US, I think we would have heard about it. Oh wait, this didn't happen. Like Boris said, when the ignorant populous doesn't get the results they want, it's "tyranny" and blah blah blah.
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Well, if there were so many articles that gone into greater details, - how come you didn't point me to one of those? How come you couldn't find one of those? What really happened, was, - there were scores of vacuous meaningless articles without any details, without any real explanation of what caused the crisis, - but with hand-wavy unclear "parallels" between the 1929 and 2008 banking environments. They would not even bother to explain how those parallels are more than superficial, - all they needed was a VOLUME. When you bombard people with many, many, many articles all of which make same statement, - some people start to think that this statement is a reasoned, proved thesis. Like this Forbes' article that you mentioned. You just looked at it, and it did never occur to you to ask yourself, -"waaaaaait a minute! This is just a declaration! Where is the proof?" Quote:
What do you call tyranny? They went through elections. Voting. the fact that you dislike their results, - does not mean that they in any way violated any democratic process.
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Have you read that "compelling" article of yours? Well, I just did, and there is no explanation there whatsoever how exactly the Glass-Steagall would have prevented the 2008 crisis. They do not even attempt to explain the mechanics of the problem! That was one article - I think he highlights the parallels between the 1929 and 2008 banking environments. Over the last 5 years, many, many people have gone into greater details about the mechanics of what happened, so I'm gathering getting an explanation of the role of deregulation in the economic meltdown is not an the issue for you. Quote: I am puzzled. How can it possibly be "foisting" their agenda un-democratically, if they are doing this via the most democratic process of them all, - elections? Wishful_Thinking wrote: The definition of Democracy is (citing Merriam Webster) a): 'government by the people; especially: rule of the majority.' The Tea Party's recent tyranny of the process is none of the above.
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Yeah, he should just have done what a Democrat would have done-appoint someone to serve the entire rest of the term!
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Have you read that "compelling" article of yours? Well, I just did, and there is no explanation there whatsoever how exactly the Glass-Steagall would have prevented the 2008 crisis. They do not even attempt to explain the mechanics of the problem! There are just some slogans like "the greed got seriously out of hand and then imploded". How could you think this sounds like a reasoned explanation? This is exactly what I was talking about, - all explanations are on the intellectual level of "evil eye". Quote:
I am puzzled. How can it possibly be "foisting" their agenda un-democratically, if they are doing this via the most democratic process of them all, - elections? And, the most phenomenal thing here, - there is a grass-roots organization, that goes against the party establishment with all their funds and other advantages of incumbency, - and you see them as bullies? By the way, this development is quite appropriate from the historical point of view. Republican party was formed when the "tea partiers" of the time grew disillusioned with the Whig party, and decided that they wanted a more radical drive toward freedom. Quote:
Optimistic? Well, to paraphrase President Lincoln, where do you get your Whiskey?
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I don't watch Fox nor CN http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-2008 ... bal-shifts-and-faultlines
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You mean most "neutral" observers that appear on Fox "News".
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Most neutral observers agree that the root cause of the 2008 crisis was US Gov policies and subsidies promoting home ownership, that created a housing bubble that was destined to burst. What Glass-Steagall and Dodd-Frank might have addressed was some of the "too big to fail" public fallout. Interesting though - all that seems to have happened is that banks have gotten bigger since 2008, and the gov is still promoting low-interest home ownership through Fanny and Freddy. I know Borisp would be the first to oppose both the home ownership subsidies through Fanny and Freddie, as well as the "to big to fail" subsidy to the big banks.
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@ borisp - I think more than enough has been written about how the 1999 repeal of Glass-Steagall precipitated the 2008 financial meltdown, and anyone who needs a refresher course is wilfully oblivious. Having said that, Sy Harding's 2012 piece in 'Forbes' is compelling - "Bringing Back Glass-Steagall"
While on the surface, the Tea Party - as a grass-roots movement focused on the economy (and, to it's credit, purposefully avoiding social issues) - is benign, it has become toxic insofar as a small number of Congressmen, representing a very small constituency (according to www.what-is-the-tea-party.com, an estimated 40% of the Tea Party constituency was said to be older than 55 with 79% being white, in contrast to about 23% of the general population being older than 55 and 75% being white) that is not representative of the USA, and is un-democratically foisting their - and their billionaire backers (google Frank Rich's op ed piece in the Times) - agenda. We can hope that Cory Booker, while he is what he is, will represent the agenda THE MAJORITY OF NJ stress is important, just like the tea-partiers promote the old-rich-white-american agenda. I, for one, choose to be optimistic!
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So, what else can Democrat party offer us besides Booker, McGreevey, Torricelli and Menendez?
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Spot on. And when he's caught, he's going to pull a McGreevey with the "I am a gay American" defense and bam, gets away free. Mark my words.
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I betting he will be a self-serving senator, loyal to his financial supporters but eventually exposed for graft and corruption issues that will occur or have already happened.
I believe he is nothing more then a publicity junkie
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Funny how often this is repeated, - and by Obama too, - and not once I heard someone explain how exactly it happened. For some reason, when it comes to pointing out the exact policies that crashed the economy, and an explanation of how exactly those policies did it, - there has been silence. The best explanation goes something like: -- republicans removed regulations!!!! -- first, the amount of regulations didn't decrease, second, could you name the regulations removed and how exactly did they affect the situation? -- Glass-Steagal!!!! -- Ok, now, describe, how exactly Glass-Steagal would have protected us from that crash? -- [hand waiving and general slogans like "Tea party bad, Democrats good"] Now, my second point is, - I asked you guys what does it tell us that the best man Democrats could find is Cory Booker. And your response is "Tea party bad". Pathetic.
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Relublicans and Blue Dog Democrats crashed the economy in 08. The Tea Party is even worse.
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More importantly, what kind of Governor screws the citizens of NJ out of $$$24 million dollars to hold a 'special election' for US Senate? Christie was so afraid to have Booker on the ballot (November) in fear of that more voters may vote in Democrat line rather than for him (Christie). The nerve when that money could be used for better things.
Posted on: 2013/10/18 16:18
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Right, the groundbreaking decision would be a for a politician to grow a sack and say something to the effect of "they both suck, I don't endorse either".
But again, that takes political balls, which Fool-op clearly lacks. Im beginning to like Fool-op, he's a fool, and looks for any photo op possible. Let's run with that. Quote:
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It was an easy choice in this case. Both in terms of who would be a better Senator for the mayor and his constituents as well as who he would want to ally himself with politically. Not a particularly groundbreaking decision to endorse Booker, but not a foolish one, either.
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Cory, that's great, but did also notice how steadily almost every crime stat has risen since 2008? I'm confident once 2012 and 2013 are thrown in, the complete picture of incompetence will be clear, and the buyers remorse will truly set in.
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Mentioned this in a previous thread, but as a general rule, crime stats in newark were down since Booker: Also according to http://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-Newark-New-Jersey.html crime is mostly down since '06 when booker took over (through '11). down: murder, rape, assault, theft, auto theft, arson up: robbery, burglary
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And subsequently, when asked why he was supporting Buono, Fool-op basically said (paraphrasing) "I'm a life long democrat, so that's how I vote". What a f*cking fool indeed.
When the day comes where a politician actually has BALLS to vote consciously and against party lines in an election that matters, I'll lose my mind.
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Agreed. And it's exactly that why I laughed at how Fool-op (and yes I voted for Steve, so save your breath, Fulop fans) and Candice blindly supported Booker. It's probably also why right afterwards, Fool-op put out a quote saying "eh endorsements don't matter", except when they do, but they don't, except when they do. Get it? These clowns are such a joke, it's sickening. This illusion of choice, or that our voices matter, it's just sickening.
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Well for the next year I am guessing most of his efforts will be to convince the voters to reelect him in the regular senate race coming up. If the R's are smart they will find a centrist candidate to run against him, but they will probably stick to the tea party types.
I am still not over Booker endorsing Healy for our mayor; in my mind that says alot about his character as being more machine oriented than progressive I did vote for him, but if he doesnt produce results and there is a credible progressive R (are there such types any more?) i would consider the alternative
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Yeah, I know. A poser and a liar is better than a self-made hardworking man, - as long as he supports limitless borrowing and spending. Fine. However, among the Democrats, among all the people who agree with you that the solution to a huge debt is to borrow some more, - among all them, - you looked for the best guy inside your Party, and the best guy you found is - Cory Booker! Interesting, isn't it?
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The outcome is no surprise. What's amazing is this:
"The very timing of the special election this year to fill the seat of Senator Frank R. Lautenberg, a fellow Democrat who died in June, showed how powerful a force he had become. Gov. Chris Christie, a Republican, called it for a Wednesday in October at a cost of $24 million to a state with a budget stretched thin, rather than holding it three weeks later, when he would have appeared on the ballot for re-election with Mr. Booker, the one Democrat he had feared running against him." $24 MILLION (of our dollars), just to protect his own ass in the most obvious way I can think of. Christie is just pathetic...
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"Hollywood" Cory is still better than Tea Party anyone.
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http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/10/17/ ... e-race-in-new-jersey.html
Booker, Winning Rocky Senate Bid, Gets a Job to Fit His Profile By KATE ZERNIKE The New York Times October 16, 2013 Mayor Cory A. Booker of Newark easily won New Jersey?s special Senate election on Wednesday, finally rising to an office that measures up to his national profile. He will arrive in Washington already one of the country?s most prominent Democrats, and its best-known black politician other than President Obama, who backed him aggressively. Mr. Booker?s fund-raising prowess puts him on course to lead his party?s campaign efforts in the Senate, and he has been mentioned as a possible vice-presidential pick for 2016. With 99 percent of the precincts reporting, Mr. Booker had 55 percent of the vote to 44 percent for Steve Lonegan, a Republican former mayor of Bogota, N.J., and state director of the conservative group Americans for Prosperity, according to The Associated Press. Still, the campaign gave a wider audience to certain facets of Mr. Booker that long ago began to prompt eye-rolling among his constituents. With a Twitter following six times as large as the city he has led, Mr. Booker was known outside Newark largely for his appearances on late-night television and his heroics: rescuing a neighbor from a burning building, shoveling out snowbound cars, living on a food stamp diet. The campaign gave him less flattering national attention for his Twitter exchanges with a dancer in a vegan strip club, and renewed old questions about whether he embellished an oft-told story about a moving encounter with a drug dealer, who may or may not have existed (Mr. Booker called him ?an archetype?). He had to resign from a media company that Silicon Valley investors had paid him millions to start ? but not before the resignation of the 15-year-old son of a television executive, whom Mr. Booker had put on the company?s board. Having started his political career by moving into a Newark housing project, Mr. Booker spent the final days before his Senate election beating back stories in the conservative news media that he did not actually live in the city; the fact that this story could catch hold at all suggested the level of suspicion aimed at the mayor in the city where he began his rise. And he had to call off campaign events during a nearly two-week spree of murders in Newark this summer, underscoring the layoffs of police officers during his tenure, and a complaint that has long made him bristle: that he is a better orator than manager. Polls suggested this took a toll. In a Rutgers-Eagleton Institute survey a week before the election, Mr. Booker had a positive rating among 54 percent of likely voters, but that had dropped nine points from early September. His unfavorable ratings had nearly doubled, to 32 percent. A third of likely voters said his career had been more about self-promotion than improving Newark, which is the state?s largest city. At the New Jersey Performing Arts Center in Newark on Wednesday night, a festive crowd of about 150 people shook blue and white pompoms to Bon Jovi songs as they waited for Mr. Booker to arrive. Thanking supporters, Mr. Booker returned to many of the lines he used to open his campaign in June, promising to bring a new kind of politics to Washington. ?Too many people are forgetting that the lines that divide us are nothing compared to the ties that bind us,? he said. ?It forgets that old saying, ?If you want to go fast, go alone; if you want to go far, go together.? ? Conceding the race before a crowd of a few hundred supporters at a banquet hall in Bridgewater, N.J., Mr. Lonegan called the race a victory, even in defeat, and thanked the prominent conservatives who had come to the state to campaign for him, including Rand Paul and Sarah Palin. ?We came well closer to winning this election than anyone ever expected,? Mr. Lonegan said to loud cheers. ?The big Washington power groups and consultants said we couldn?t win. Well, maybe if they had played a role in this election, we would have won.? Mr. Booker grew up in the wealthy North Jersey suburb of Harrington Park, where his parents, some of the first black executives at I.B.M., helped integrate the town. A graduate of Stanford and Yale Law School, and a former Rhodes scholar, he was a celebrity even before he became mayor ? with an Oscar-nominated documentary about his first, failed race in 2002. He was elected in 2006 to replace Sharpe James, the longtime mayor who later served time in prison for fraud. Mr. Booker brought excitement to a city that has long struggled to shake off the cloud of the riots that nearly destroyed it 46 years ago. And with his national profile, he also attracted more business development, including Newark?s first new hotel and supermarket in decades, and millions of dollars in philanthropy, including a $100 million pledge to the city?s long-failing schools from the Facebook co-founder Mark Zuckerberg. The very timing of the special election this year to fill the seat of Senator Frank R. Lautenberg, a fellow Democrat who died in June, showed how powerful a force he had become. Gov. Chris Christie, a Republican, called it for a Wednesday in October at a cost of $24 million to a state with a budget stretched thin, rather than holding it three weeks later, when he would have appeared on the ballot for re-election with Mr. Booker, the one Democrat he had feared running against him. As a placeholder in the Senate seat after Mr. Lautenberg died, Mr. Christie appointed his attorney general, Jeffrey S. Chiesa, a Republican loyalist who expressed no interest in holding the seat permanently. Mr. Booker will take office after the vote is certified, which the governor has said will be by early November. Mr. Booker will fill out the rest of Mr. Lautenberg?s term, facing re-election in November 2014. New Jersey has not elected a Republican to the Senate in 40 years. But the race was messier than Mr. Booker, famous for his inspirational Twitter musings, would have liked. He started the campaign talking hopefully, and safely, about his belief in the need to reach across the aisle to get things done in partisan Washington. He held relatively few public events early on, favoring canned Instagram interviews and videos where he answered predictable (for New Jersey) questions like ?Springsteen or Bon Jovi?? (?Bon Jovi is a friend,? Mr. Booker said, but chose Springsteen, ?Thunder Road? over ?Born to Run.?) Mr. Lonegan, his Republican opponent, worked Mr. Booker?s celebrity against him. While Mr. Booker spent more than a week raising money in Hollywood and Silicon Valley, Mr. Lonegan held a red carpet event with ?regular New Jersey people? and invited reporters to news conferences at his modest suburban home. Only after Mr. Lonegan appeared to gain traction in some polls did Mr. Booker come out punching, trying to make the election a referendum on the government shutdown. Voters apparently found Mr. Lonegan too conservative; 60 percent told the Rutgers poll he was further to the right than most of the state. Still, the campaign ?made Booker more human, less Superman,? said David Redlawsk, the director of the Rutgers poll, pointing to the drops in his favorability. The question now for Mr. Booker is how he plays his celebrity in the Senate, a chamber where show horses tend to stumble. He has promised that he will continue to live in Newark. He has also said he intends to keep up his presence on Twitter.
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Ethics and New Jersey Senator???
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I had high hopes for him, especially when it seemed he'd be able to reach across the aisle to get things done. Minus the money he got from Facebook he's been an utterly useless mayor-and the revelations of his challenged ethics should alarm Democrats as much as it's disgusted Republicans.
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