JCMan8 wrote:
Trump reached a deal with Carrier to save 1,000 U.S. jobs. Obama and Hillary wouldn't have lifted a finger.

https://twitter.com/Carrier/status/803764047300722688

Not even in office yet and he's already Making America Great Again!

TheBigGuy wrote:
Now AC.... don't be so humble, you haven't had a coherent response to much of this thread. I assume that you are too young to remember (hence you foolish socialist utopian comments) what happened in the Philippines 35 years after the end of WWII.

Some Japanese soldiers held out and refused to surrender after Japan surrendered and they hid out in the mountains continuing to support a failed and defeated Rising Sun ideology.

You remind of those crazies, but I appreciate your tenacity and never give up attitude but you OCD resistance to the fact that the President will not be Hillary Clinton is concerning... but it is part of a mass hysteria sweeping the country.

So much so... I have a Greyhound bus ticket at the Port Authority that you can claim for a free ride to Michigan. As I understand it HRC is asking for volunteers to hand count ballots to keep her dream alive.

Seems like the perfect place for all the lunatic left to make their final stand in the service of the worst presidential candidate ever. It will probably take 8 months... but you will be a in safe space with plenty of meds available.

Don't forget to check-in on JCList to let us know how you and OWS friends are doing. Michigan is especially nice in the winter time.

Keep Hope Alive!



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AlexC wrote:
Big Guy's totally delusional fantasy about alt-reality

Dream on Bro, this is awesome - you make this board very entertaining.

Ahahahahahahahahah

AlexC wrote:
Big Guy's totally delusional fantasy about alt-reality

Dream on Bro, this is awesome - you make this board very entertaining.

Ahahahahahahahahah

AlexC wrote:
I see you like the Ahahahahahaha stuff, and yours is in CAPS, so it's BIGLY, Yuuuge!

I find it hilarious that you, Monroe and the JC Man guy has to defend everything said abut Trump

Thank You!

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TheBigGuy wrote:
Oh do you mean like the government creating phony "the green industry" and giving out federal loans to these companies that happened to be owned by big Obama donors.

Then they declare bankruptcy with big golden parachutes or sell their solar panel manufacturing jobs to China while taking interest free US taxpayer money?

Oh look... the Chinese manipulating another market... the exact issue ignored by democrats, one that President Trump will fix!

http://fortune.com/2016/09/14/china-solar-panel-production/

AAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAAH

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AlexC wrote:
"Crony Capitalism" says an expert with the AEI, a conservative think tank

Claude Barfield, an expert on international trade at the American Enterprise Institute, said brokering aid packages with individual companies is far from a conservative approach.

?For market-based economists or analysts, this is really a version of crony capitalism, and it?s the kind of thing you really don?t want to get into or have government get into,? Barfield said. ?This gets back to who ? actually has the ear of the government. So you get the situation where decisions are not made in terms of their economic sense, but in terms of gaming the political system.?

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11 ... al-contracts-trump-232021

Ahahahahahahahahahahahah!

AlexC wrote:
I see you like the Ahahahahahaha stuff, and yours is in CAPS, so it's BIGLY, Yuuuge!

I find it hilarious that you, Monroe and the JC Man guy has to defend everything said abut Trump

Thank You!

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TheBigGuy wrote:
Oh do you mean like the government creating phony "the green industry" and giving out federal loans to these companies that happened to be owned by big Obama donors.

Then they declare bankruptcy with big golden parachutes or sell their solar panel manufacturing jobs to China while taking interest free US taxpayer money?

Oh look... the Chinese manipulating another market... the exact issue ignored by democrats, one that President Trump will fix!

http://fortune.com/2016/09/14/china-solar-panel-production/

AAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAAH

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AlexC wrote:
"Crony Capitalism" says an expert with the AEI, a conservative think tank

Claude Barfield, an expert on international trade at the American Enterprise Institute, said brokering aid packages with individual companies is far from a conservative approach.

?For market-based economists or analysts, this is really a version of crony capitalism, and it?s the kind of thing you really don?t want to get into or have government get into,? Barfield said. ?This gets back to who ? actually has the ear of the government. So you get the situation where decisions are not made in terms of their economic sense, but in terms of gaming the political system.?

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11 ... al-contracts-trump-232021

Ahahahahahahahahahahahah!

TheBigGuy wrote:
Oh do you mean like the government creating phony "the green industry" and giving out federal loans to these companies that happened to be owned by big Obama donors.

Then they declare bankruptcy with big golden parachutes or sell their solar panel manufacturing jobs to China while taking interest free US taxpayer money?

Oh look... the Chinese manipulating another market... the exact issue ignored by democrats, one that President Trump will fix!

http://fortune.com/2016/09/14/china-solar-panel-production/

AAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAAH

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AlexC wrote:
"Crony Capitalism" says an expert with the AEI, a conservative think tank

Claude Barfield, an expert on international trade at the American Enterprise Institute, said brokering aid packages with individual companies is far from a conservative approach.

?For market-based economists or analysts, this is really a version of crony capitalism, and it?s the kind of thing you really don?t want to get into or have government get into,? Barfield said. ?This gets back to who ? actually has the ear of the government. So you get the situation where decisions are not made in terms of their economic sense, but in terms of gaming the political system.?

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11 ... al-contracts-trump-232021

Ahahahahahahahahahahahah!

Monroe wrote:
Wow, keeping jobs in the US is crony capitalism?

AlexC wrote:
"Crony Capitalism" says an expert with the AEI, a conservative think tank

Claude Barfield, an expert on international trade at the American Enterprise Institute, said brokering aid packages with individual companies is far from a conservative approach.

?For market-based economists or analysts, this is really a version of crony capitalism, and it?s the kind of thing you really don?t want to get into or have government get into,? Barfield said. ?This gets back to who ? actually has the ear of the government. So you get the situation where decisions are not made in terms of their economic sense, but in terms of gaming the political system.?

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11 ... al-contracts-trump-232021

Ahahahahahahahahahahahah!

fat-ass-bike wrote:
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richieveal wrote:
All you crying Liberal Scum Bags, your salty tears are the sweetest tasting victory that I am so happy to drink. Its about time we have someone who is going to put American's first. Every time I read your pathetic posts I sit back and think how great it is to be filling the Supreme Court. We are not stopping, this is just the beginning and I look forward to ruining the rest of the days for you while we have a leader that is going to put Americans first. Enough of the sanctuary cities, enough of free hand outs, enough of open boarders, enough of jobs leaving this country.

America first - what a crock of siht!
We have been in wars for oil in the past 20 years - Manufacturing in the US was shifted to Asia because of corporation greed at the cost of blue collar labor with legislation allowing that to happen because it was seen as a way to reduce consumer goods cost - where do you think all the CHEAP crap from walmart - staples - home depo comes from? Do you think the average joe will work for wages the Chinese, Taiwanese, Vietnamese, Thai, Mexican are prepared to work for ....We have been putting America first ever since we understood how to make money from wars and manufacturing .... Note the 2 largest employers are the MIlitary and Walmart.
Trump sure did put America first, that's why he has had foreign wives!

Just for the record, both parties had 2 of the worst individuals in history, to have represented them.

richieveal wrote:
All you crying Liberal Scum Bags, your salty tears are the sweetest tasting victory that I am so happy to drink. Its about time we have someone who is going to put American's first. Every time I read your pathetic posts I sit back and think how great it is to be filling the Supreme Court. We are not stopping, this is just the beginning and I look forward to ruining the rest of the days for you while we have a leader that is going to put Americans first. Enough of the sanctuary cities, enough of free hand outs, enough of open boarders, enough of jobs leaving this country.

mpwJC wrote:
Saving 1,000 jobs is great, but it is a PR stunt more than anything. Carrier is still laying off a substantial number of employees in Indiana, and state tax incentives (care of Gov Pence) had to be offered to keep just some of the jobs in the US. I don't think Trump traveling the country and offering tax breaks to every company that wants to offshore is a sustainable plan.

I am glad that Trump/Pence managed to save a few jobs, but to act like previous presidents or the current president haven't protected American jobs is simply ridiculous. I'll just leave these links here as examples of what can happen when the government successfully intervenes to prop up and save an industry. Note that the job gains are in the 100s of thousands.

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES3133600101?data_tool=XGtable
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/CES4244100001?data_tool=XGtable

JCMan8 wrote:
Wait, so you've admitted your first article (which claimed Trump wasn't bringing any manufacturing jobs back) was full of lies? Now you are conceding that he is indeed bringing those jobs back, but you don't like it because it's taking jobs away from foreigners.

Too bad. You can try to spin it as "thinking about how my actions might impact someone else," but this is pure nonsense coming from a position of privilege. Trump is finally putting Americans first and it's long overdue.

Azul_the_Cat wrote:
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JCMan8 wrote:
This is a great thing. Finally, an American president who actually cares about his own country! I know that's a very difficult concept for you "progressives" to understand, but the American people understand it quite well.

I know right! Thinking about how my actions might impact someone else is such a terrible thing to do. I'm sure glad our entire planet isn't interconnected, and we may have to depend on someone else in the future...oh, wait.

To suggest that former Presidents, Republican or Democrat, did not care about our country shows just how delusional the thinking in this country has become.

JCMan8 wrote:
This is a great thing. Finally, an American president who actually cares about his own country! I know that's a very difficult concept for you "progressives" to understand, but the American people understand it quite well.

Azul_the_Cat wrote:
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JCMan8 wrote:
At least you finally got one thing right. Trump could cure world hunger, but the legacy media would find a way to harshly criticize him for it.

Meanwhile, your article has been debunked because other countries have said that they will be moving their manufacturing to the U.S. due to Trump, creating many new American jobs. Look at these examples from Korea.

http://m.koreatimes.co.kr/phone/news/view.jsp?req_newsidx=217941

I guess I can see how it's related. It's been rumored that Carrier faced loosing their much more profitable defense contracts if they did not bend to Fuhrer Trumps will. Hell, even Bernie was getting in on the action. I guess companies will do a lot to keep their ability to sell products to the USA.

From your article" "Automakers and other exporters here will shift their production to the United States, following Donald Trump?s win in the U.S. election, according to the head of the European business community here on Thursday.

Jean-Christophe Darbes, chairman of the European Chamber of Commerce in Korea (ECCK) said it will become more difficult for Korean companies to ship their products to the world?s largest economy as President-elect Trump has vowed to prop up trade barriers against foreign products in a bid to revitalize U.S. manufacturing.

?Korea?s exports to the United States will likely decline as Trump, who has vowed to introduce protectionist measures, becomes the 45th U.S. president,? Darbes said. ?Given that businesses react quickly to changes in the market, more Korean companies will set up plants in the United States to continue to do business there. But the problem is that this will have adverse effects on Korea?s efforts to create decent, high-paying jobs at home.?

So his plan is to threaten other countries till they do what he wants, and if they don't he'll start a trade war with the rest of the globe? You must think having an isolationist stance with the rest of the planet is a good thing.

Meanwhile your golden boy, who railed against Goldman Sachs and anyone who had anything to do with them, is busy stacking his cabinet with former GS employees and lobbyists. I guess it give me some hope for the future that majority of what Trump said on the campaign trail was BS, and was just said to make people like yourself vote for him.

IBT Article

JCMan8 wrote:
At least you finally got one thing right. Trump could cure world hunger, but the legacy media would find a way to harshly criticize him for it.

Meanwhile, your article has been debunked because other countries have said that they will be moving their manufacturing to the U.S. due to Trump, creating many new American jobs. Look at these examples from Korea.

http://m.koreatimes.co.kr/phone/news/view.jsp?req_newsidx=217941

JCMan8 wrote:
At least you finally got one thing right. Trump could cure world hunger, but the legacy media would find a way to harshly criticize him for it.

Meanwhile, your article has been debunked because other countries have said that they will be moving their manufacturing to the U.S. due to Trump, creating many new American jobs. Look at these examples from Korea.

http://m.koreatimes.co.kr/phone/news/view.jsp?req_newsidx=217941

Azul_the_Cat wrote:
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JCMan8 wrote:
Trump reached a deal with Carrier to save 1,000 U.S. jobs. Obama and Hillary wouldn't have lifted a finger.

https://twitter.com/Carrier/status/803764047300722688

Not even in office yet and he's already Making America Great Again!

Beware of Donald Trump's con on manufacturing jobs

But who would listen to a tabloid like the Washington Post.

JCMan8 wrote:
Trump reached a deal with Carrier to save 1,000 U.S. jobs. Obama and Hillary wouldn't have lifted a finger.

https://twitter.com/Carrier/status/803764047300722688

Not even in office yet and he's already Making America Great Again!

AlexC wrote:
Ahahahahahahahahaha

Meanwhile, 7 years later, Trump found out the real ACA for the first time:

President-elect Donald Trump is already signaling that he might backpedal on his promise to repeal the Affordable Care Act, telling the Wall Street Journal Friday that he?d consider hanging onto popular Obamacare provisions such as ?the prohibition against insurers denying coverage because of patients? existing conditions, and a provision that allows parents to provide years of additional coverage for children on their insurance policies.?

?I like those very much,? he said. Three days into his transition, and it looks like the real estate tycoon is becoming a politician.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteve ... dy-waffling-on-obamacare/

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TheBigGuy wrote:
We need to hope that the democrats stick their heads deeper in their butts tomorrow by returning Nancy Pelosi back to her well deserved Minority Leader post.

At 77, she brightens the democrats future with her lean forward thinking style. Her legislative savvy, passing meaningful legislation is inspiring.

I always get choked remembering that moment when the democrat house majority unanimously passed ACA. Her first words in victory were " You have to pass the bill to find out what is in it!"

TheBigGuy wrote:
We need to hope that the democrats stick their heads deeper in their butts tomorrow by returning Nancy Pelosi back to her well deserved Minority Leader post.

At 77, she brightens the democrats future with her lean forward thinking style. Her legislative savvy, passing meaningful legislation is inspiring.

I always get choked remembering that moment when the democrat house majority unanimously passed ACA. Her first words in victory were " You have to pass the bill to find out what is in it!"