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bodhipooh wrote:
Oh, wow. I used to love their place in the West Village. I am super excited for this place. I have been seeing that spot under development for the longest time. At least a year, maybe longer.

their Nutella bread is a thing of rare beauty. I will be first in line on opening day.

bodhipooh wrote:
Oh, wow. I used to love their place in the West Village. I am super excited for this place. I have been seeing that spot under development for the longest time. At least a year, maybe longer.

RUrahrah wrote:
on Erie between 3rd and 4th, the shop has a sign now.

Prato Bakery.

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hero69 wrote:
what's being built on the lot at 251 newark avenue,next to the vietnamese restaurant/jordan's

Apartments/Condos last I heard. I'm sure there will be a ground floor retail component but I don't know that they had a tenant in mind.

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what's being built on the lot at 251 newark avenue,next to the vietnamese restaurant/jordan's

JCMan8 wrote:
Your view of "diversity" is remarkably narrow. Essentially, you are saying the only kind of diversity that "counts" is income diversity. You also apply many assumptions and generalizations to a broad group of incoming people solely due to the high cost of living here.

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Yes, I am concerned because my investment could be an even better one. Somewhere a WF employee is scouting locations and visited our "acclaimed" restaurant row and told his superiors back in the WF office that DTJC is full of dollar/discount stores and stores which advertise how cheap their products are - Sleep CHEAP, PayLESS, etc.

I am torn over whether I prefer an ISIS recruitment center versus a dollar store since both are detrimental to their neighborhoods...

Agreed. We need to clean up Grove Street and Newark Ave. Not that I have a problem with the "cheap" stores, I feel like it's time for a change to accommodate the new and diverse demographics.

Moreover, I am baffled that these stores still exist, given the rents in the neighborhood have skyrocketed. There's a national discount store at 162 Newark (or 161 Newark Ave) that looks like a head shop but sells the most random stuff. Stores like that need to go. It brings down the entire neighborhood. Especially when the crack addicts hang out in front of it in abandoned shopping carts. In any case, I would rather not have an Old Navy or a J Crew but much rather see more local businesses like Tia's or Morelees or Word succeed.

This "We need to clean this up" attitude drives me nuts. Who's "we"?? Those store owners are running a business. Presumably, they pay their rent or own their building. Who are "we" to tell them they can't do it? Here's an idea: If "we" are so offended by a dollar store, "we" should pony up the money to buy them out. Then "we" can open an artisanal pizza place, TV-filled bar or high-end dog groomer. God knows "we" need more of those.

"we" being non crack/meth addicts that live in houses, apts etc and not abandoned shopping carts that have families and pay taxes and are generally decent people and don't want to live with this sort of "filth".

If you think differently, there's something wrong with you.

JC still has remnants of it's drug/gang obsessed past that can be seen on Newark Ave. That's what needs to get cleaned up. Half the places on Newark don't even look like they make a sale a day; are they fronts for something?

Anyways, as Seagull mentioned, let's keep thread to it's original purpose.

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Yes, I am concerned because my investment could be an even better one. Somewhere a WF employee is scouting locations and visited our "acclaimed" restaurant row and told his superiors back in the WF office that DTJC is full of dollar/discount stores and stores which advertise how cheap their products are - Sleep CHEAP, PayLESS, etc.

I am torn over whether I prefer an ISIS recruitment center versus a dollar store since both are detrimental to their neighborhoods...

Agreed. We need to clean up Grove Street and Newark Ave. Not that I have a problem with the "cheap" stores, I feel like it's time for a change to accommodate the new and diverse demographics.

Moreover, I am baffled that these stores still exist, given the rents in the neighborhood have skyrocketed. There's a national discount store at 162 Newark (or 161 Newark Ave) that looks like a head shop but sells the most random stuff. Stores like that need to go. It brings down the entire neighborhood. Especially when the crack addicts hang out in front of it in abandoned shopping carts. In any case, I would rather not have an Old Navy or a J Crew but much rather see more local businesses like Tia's or Morelees or Word succeed.

This "We need to clean this up" attitude drives me nuts. Who's "we"?? Those store owners are running a business. Presumably, they pay their rent or own their building. Who are "we" to tell them they can't do it? Here's an idea: If "we" are so offended by a dollar store, "we" should pony up the money to buy them out. Then "we" can open an artisanal pizza place, TV-filled bar or high-end dog groomer. God knows "we" need more of those.

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Well, he [Frank] seriously is claiming that DTJC isn't diverse. Makes him pretty ignorant, no?

Explain the ?new diverse demographics? in deference to the increasing number of people who share nearly indistinguishable value systems. Thanks to the very high cost of living among other factors, it?s more common that the best plan for success among people moving to downtown Jersey City lies in ?going with the program.? Unfortunately, that behavior also tends to inhibit the process of self-individuation, which doesn?t make for a very diverse group of people at all.

Diversity certainly does exist in this part of town, but it?s a receding phenomenon.

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Agreed. We need to clean up Grove Street and Newark Ave. Not that I have a problem with the "cheap" stores, I feel like it's time for a change to accommodate the new and diverse demographics.

The growing demographic of downtown Jersey City is as diverse as Wonder Bread is hearty, regardless of ancestry.

If you want more of your narrow conception of "diversity," feel free to move to Newark.

Ah, the "love it or leave it" argument. People still use this, I guess.

Well, he seriously is claiming that DTJC isn't diverse. Makes him pretty ignorant, no?

I suggested a practical, feasible solution to his "problem."

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Well, he [Frank] seriously is claiming that DTJC isn't diverse. Makes him pretty ignorant, no?

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Agreed. We need to clean up Grove Street and Newark Ave. Not that I have a problem with the "cheap" stores, I feel like it's time for a change to accommodate the new and diverse demographics.

The growing demographic of downtown Jersey City is as diverse as Wonder Bread is hearty, regardless of ancestry.

If you want more of your narrow conception of "diversity," feel free to move to Newark.

Ah, the "love it or leave it" argument. People still use this, I guess.

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Agreed. We need to clean up Grove Street and Newark Ave. Not that I have a problem with the "cheap" stores, I feel like it's time for a change to accommodate the new and diverse demographics.

The growing demographic of downtown Jersey City is as diverse as Wonder Bread is hearty, regardless of ancestry.

If you want more of your narrow conception of "diversity," feel free to move to Newark.

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craigslistdiva wrote:
Agreed. We need to clean up Grove Street and Newark Ave. Not that I have a problem with the "cheap" stores, I feel like it's time for a change to accommodate the new and diverse demographics.

The growing demographic of downtown Jersey City is as diverse as Wonder Bread is hearty, regardless of ancestry.

If you want more of your narrow conception of "diversity," feel free to move to Newark.

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Agreed. We need to clean up Grove Street and Newark Ave. Not that I have a problem with the "cheap" stores, I feel like it's time for a change to accommodate the new and diverse demographics.

The growing demographic of downtown Jersey City is as diverse as Wonder Bread is hearty, regardless of ancestry.

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Yes, I am concerned because my investment could be an even better one. Somewhere a WF employee is scouting locations and visited our "acclaimed" restaurant row and told his superiors back in the WF office that DTJC is full of dollar/discount stores and stores which advertise how cheap their products are - Sleep CHEAP, PayLESS, etc.

I am torn over whether I prefer an ISIS recruitment center versus a dollar store since both are detrimental to their neighborhoods...

Agreed. We need to clean up Grove Street and Newark Ave. Not that I have a problem with the "cheap" stores, I feel like it's time for a change to accommodate the new and diverse demographics.

Moreover, I am baffled that these stores still exist, given the rents in the neighborhood have skyrocketed. There's a national discount store at 162 Newark (or 161 Newark Ave) that looks like a head shop but sells the most random stuff. Stores like that need to go. It brings down the entire neighborhood. Especially when the crack addicts hang out in front of it in abandoned shopping carts. In any case, I would rather not have an Old Navy or a J Crew but much rather see more local businesses like Tia's or Morelees or Word succeed.

This "We need to clean this up" attitude drives me nuts. Who's "we"?? Those store owners are running a business. Presumably, they pay their rent or own their building. Who are "we" to tell them they can't do it? Here's an idea: If "we" are so offended by a dollar store, "we" should pony up the money to buy them out. Then "we" can open an artisanal pizza place, TV-filled bar or high-end dog groomer. God knows "we" need more of those.

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Agreed. We need to clean up Grove Street and Newark Ave. Not that I have a problem with the "cheap" stores, I feel like it's time for a change to accommodate the new and diverse demographics.