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Re: Legal Weed Is Coming to New Jersey
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What do you have against a home grow provision? That's what's most confusing to me. Why are you arguing against one?


Umm, I think you need to read slower. When you said you can always grow your own, I was merely pointing out that it might not necessarily be so.

I was warning against the possibility that New Jersey could not include a grow provision, after it was brought up that taxes were the primary motivation and they might limit grow. That does not mean I support it!


I now understand that you are not aware of the details of the bill. There is currently no provision for home growing in this bill. It's not a "possibility", it's the current reality. Also, at no point did I say you can, "always grow your own." I'm advocating for the right to do so, which under the current bill will still be illegal. Understand?

Posted on: 7/19 11:21
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Re: Legal Weed Is Coming to New Jersey
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An excellent straw man argument there.

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I don't personally have a problem with paying the tax on marijuana if there is a home grow provision. Alcohol is similarly taxed, but people also have the liberty to brew their own alcohol at home


Home brewing wasn't legalized till 1979.
https://beerandbrewing.com/the-day-homebrewing-was-legalized/


Huh? What argument do you think I am making? It's already been established that Washington passed recreational legalization without home growing. So it's not beyond the realm of possibility that New Jersey could do likewise.


What do you have against a home grow provision? That's what's most confusing to me. Why are you arguing against one?

Posted on: 7/18 21:27
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Re: Legal Weed Is Coming to New Jersey
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An excellent straw man argument there.

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I don't personally have a problem with paying the tax on marijuana if there is a home grow provision. Alcohol is similarly taxed, but people also have the liberty to brew their own alcohol at home


Home brewing wasn't legalized till 1979.
https://beerandbrewing.com/the-day-homebrewing-was-legalized/

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Re: Legal Weed Is Coming to New Jersey
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I don't personally have a problem with paying the tax on marijuana if there is a home grow provision. Alcohol is similarly taxed, but people also have the liberty to brew their own alcohol at home.

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Didn't know about WA. But this "overtaxed" is overblown. If an $8 gram has $2 tax, do you really think that's so awful? Booze is similarly taxed and no one is hysterical. The dispensary limiting IS a big deal. If you have to drive an hour, or spend hours on public transit to reach the nearest dispensary, that's deliberate hardship.



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Re: Legal Weed Is Coming to New Jersey
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The only state that did not include a home growing provision was Washington state, and if you look into it, the people in the state are now having to contact their elected officials to try to get on board with a home growing provision. NJ doesn't want a home grow provision because they want everyone to buy marijuana from the state. They keep saying this is for racial justice, but I think it would be more just of them to not be so transparently greedy. Many minorities are too poor to have a car to drive to a dispensary let alone have enough money to spend on overtaxed marijuana. If this is really about racial justice, they should prove it and provide the masses with a sensible home grow provision like Vermont. Two mature female plants in flowering at any time, and six plants total.


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Weed is even easier than tobacco (which has to be dried, toasted, and has other stuff added to it). Anyone with $500 to spare can setup a pretty nice grow room in a spare closet.


I don't think any of the rec legal states have outlawed growing your own, some have pretty liberal ideas of how much is required for "personal use", typically 4-6 plants. And as it turns out, the taxes are not a big deal when the market is driving the price into the basement. I hear in CA its crazy cheap now.

All the gloom and doom predictions of corporate control of this product don't make any sense as long as personal growing is possible. Corps will do all the concentrates and such, where the money is, just like ADM makes far more than the farmer growing corn.

Our state lawmakers are morons, wanting to legalize possession but leave all the distribution in the hands of criminals. Is this Rice guy on dealer's payrolls?

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Senator Ronald R. Rice, the chairman of the state’s legislative black caucus and one of the most vocal opponents of legalization, fears dispensaries would be concentrated in cities. “In my heart, and from my experience, I know the detriment it’s going to cause long-term in urban communities in particular,” he said. He supports decriminalizing the possession of small amounts of marijuana instead.

Posted on: 7/18 12:09
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Re: Legal Weed Is Coming to New Jersey
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There is a new alternate marijuana bill that will be introduced in the next couple of weeks. The alternate bill will allow home growing, and it will also have a lower tax rate on the sale of marijuana at dispensaries. I really hope this is the bill that Phil Murphy signs.

http://www.nj.com/marijuana/2018/01/b ... ld.html#incart_river_home

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Re: Legal Weed Is Coming to New Jersey
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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/hound-l ... nces-major-130000032.html

Apparently this company is in clinical trials developing a breath test device to detect THC levels, and it apparently is much more accurate than an alcohol breathalyzer.

Posted on: 12/30 12:44
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Re: Legal Weed Is Coming to New Jersey
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"Evidence does not show that marijuana smoke is carcinogenic."

If you had said evidence does not show that marijuana is carcinogenic I would have agreed with you. However, ANY burnt material that you inhale into your lungs is carcinogenic. Anytime you use flame to burn your marijuana, you are causing incomplete combustion of organic matter, which in turn releases benzo(a)pyrene. Benzo(a)pyrene has been linked to the formation of lung cancer. If you want a healthy alternative, try limiting yourself with the smoking and get yourself a vaporizer. Edibles, cannabis oil, and vape pens will be the norm after legalization occurs and there is an actual legal marketplace.

Posted on: 12/8 8:32
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Re: Legal Weed Is Coming to New Jersey
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I read a conflicting report by VICE yesterday:

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/a3j ... d-is-coming-to-new-jersey

"Democratic senator Nicholas Scutari, a longtime legalization advocate who sponsored New Jersey's medical marijuana law, introduced a bill in May permitting state residents age 21 and over to use small amounts of pot. Under the plan, New Jerseyans could carry, transport, or consume up to: one ounce of marijuana; 16 ounces or less of marijuana-infused product; 72 ounces or less of liquid pot, and seven grams of marijuana concentrate. They could also grow up to six "immature" pot plants, but, under the letter of the law, harvest their own bud at home. Customers would pay a 7 percent tax on marijuana sales in the first year pot was on sale in stores, and that would slowly escalate to 25 percent after several years of legalization."

I really wish there was a definitive answer to this, because the bill that was originally introduced outlawed home growing. I wonder if the bill was re-written to include home cultivation after Murphy's official win. Apparently, we would be the only recreational marijuana state that doesn't allow citizens to grow small amounts at home for personal use.


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Re: Legal Weed Is Coming to New Jersey
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This is most evident by the fact that under the current bill, it would be illegal for homeowners to grow their own cannabis at home. It's all about the revenue.

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The vice story said one NJ proposal wanted to start the tax at 7%, then after several years it would grow to 25%. No idea what alcohol is taxed at but it is pretty obvious the only thing they want is immediate increased usage and a new revenue stream that grows to feed their spending addiction.

Posted on: 12/5 23:35
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Re: Legal Weed Is Coming to New Jersey
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You're late to the party bud, but better late than never.

Posted on: 12/5 20:57
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Re: 99 Ranch Market Grand Opening on 4/21 at 9am - 420 Grand Street
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I just hope that the wonderful customer service doesn't fade with time.


Did you notice the signs over the checkout counters telling the clerks to smile and make eye contact? Mine didn't, but the woman at the soup counter totally did. I think it's hard culturally, I've rarely seen Asian customer service that did that, even when you're such regular somewhere that they know your order. The "customer experience" seems just not to be a thing.


Try traveling to Japan and then tell someone, "The 'customer experience' seems just not to be a thing" in Asian culture. Their customer service is the best in the world.

Posted on: 2017/4/26 14:30
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Re: Whole Foods in JC?
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There has been some chatter that the Whole Foods at Metropolis Towers is a dead deal. Apparently the shareholders of the Metropolis Towers thought they were getting a bad deal out of the project and voted it down. Whole Foods also just closed nine of their stores nationwide due to a poor fiscal outlook, so they may have just decided to not go forward with the construction in this particular location and are looking elsewhere in Jersey City (hence the rumors of a Journal Square location)..

Posted on: 2017/4/12 16:03
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Re: Sprout(s) at 70 Columbus
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Just saw a kid stick his hands in one of the cold buffets.

Inside is pretty nice but seems much more expensive than Shop Rite. One pint of Ben & Jerry's was $6.99.
one goes to a place like sprouts for convenience...not bargains


I'd rather walk the inconvenient six minutes to Shoprite than pay a 60% price markup. Those prices are ridiculous.

Posted on: 2017/3/10 20:13
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Re: Sprout(s) at 70 Columbus
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Their prices make Whole Foods look like a bargain.

Posted on: 2017/3/10 18:41
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Re: Krispy Kreme Doughnuts
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How would anyone have any idea they were supposed to ask for fresh donuts? It's like going to McDonalds and saying, "Please, not the fries that have been sitting there for three hours." (Someone's going to say, "I always ask for fresh fries!" Good for you.)

Anyway, they obviously hadn't been sitting there for just the 15 minutes I waited. Probably just the early morning pump out that were already boxed up. Not the end of the world. Thankfully it's almost lent and I can blame Jesus for avoiding Krispy Kreme.

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We went on Monday morning. Hot Donut sign was on. Glazed donuts churning through the machine in the window. So I ordered a dozen glazed. We waited about 15 minutes to get the donuts at the other end (there were only about four other people in line). And we got a box of cold, hard, glazed donuts. I considered just leaving them there.

And yet you didn't. You should have gone with your first instinct. Granted the place should have had better signage with their "hot request" policy stated. Just surprised they were hard in that minimal amount of time, I heard they last for days.


The donuts were fresh, they were just not warm like you expected. Next time speak up and ask for your donuts to be warm so there won't be any surprises and you won't be so disappointed that you have to come onto JClist to rant and rave about your horrendous experience #firstworldproblems

Posted on: 2017/2/27 19:34
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Re: Krispy Kreme Doughnuts
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I've heard when you are making your order you have to specifically ask for "hot donuts" or they will automatically give you the donuts that have cooled off already.

Posted on: 2017/2/26 12:01
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Re: PATH (pathetic attempt at transporting humans)
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I know New York is expanding their ferry service, and the cost will be the same as a single ride MTA swipe of a metro card. It's too bad New Jersey can't figure out something along those lines. I think more people would take the ferry if it didn't cost $6/$7 a ride from Jersey City.

The ferries are expensive because they're privately operated.

The only way to reduce the cost is to subsidize them. Which is fine, but also means someone else is now paying for the ferry, via taxes. So who is stuck with the bill?


I totally agree with you. The ferry system needs to be subsidized by the state to alleviate the overcrowding on PATH. PATH also needs to be taken over by NJ Transit and subsidized as well. The PA has no interest in future developments that will make any difference to the overcrowding. They should have been working on something 10-15 years ago. So we have one solution in the meantime and that is to take advantage of our waterways.

Posted on: 2017/2/9 10:25
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Re: PATH (pathetic attempt at transporting humans)
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Ferry is already standing room only if you're late. They should increase prices to make more use the Path.


I know...it makes too much sense doesn't it?

Posted on: 2017/2/9 8:58
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Re: PATH (pathetic attempt at transporting humans)
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I know New York is expanding their ferry service, and the cost will be the same as a single ride MTA swipe of a metro card. It's too bad New Jersey can't figure out something along those lines. I think more people would take the ferry if it didn't cost $6/$7 a ride from Jersey City.

Posted on: 2017/2/9 1:43
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Re: Whole Foods in JC?
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Jersey City Up Front has an article posted today regarding details of the planned Whole Foods space:

http://www.jerseycityupfront.com/neig ... ullboy-expands-food-menu/

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Link to the original article on Jersey Digs:

http://jerseydigs.com/whole-foods-met ... owers-jersey-city-update/

Posted on: 2016/7/13 10:40
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Re: Tender Shoot Farm Closing
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love Tender Shoot or hate 'em, to have an entire giant, central city block with no grocery store is just bonkers.


P&K is right down the street from Tendershoot on Newark Ave.


I love P&K, but it's small, and tucked away. the neighborhood will miss having a grocery store on the plaza. but hey, as long as we get another bar...


Monty's II?

Posted on: 2016/7/11 18:25
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Re: Tender Shoot Farm Closing
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love Tender Shoot or hate 'em, to have an entire giant, central city block with no grocery store is just bonkers.


P&K is right down the street from Tendershoot on Newark Ave.

Posted on: 2016/7/11 16:10
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Re: PATH (pathetic attempt at transporting humans)
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Subsidized ferry service?

Here's an interesting article:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/new-york- ... ferry-contract-1458175300

Posted on: 2016/6/9 22:26
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Re: Port Authority To Jersey City - Drop Dead
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Subsidized ferry?

Posted on: 2016/6/6 8:29
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Re: Whole Foods in JC?
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No alcohol? Really?


Supermarket chains are only allowed 2 liquor licenses for the entire state.


Whole Foods sells alcohol at their locations in Vauxhall, Red Bank, and Paramus.

Posted on: 2016/5/4 23:04
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Re: Whole Foods in JC?
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No alcohol? Really?

Posted on: 2016/5/4 18:51
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Re: Taylor Swift Moving to Jersey City, New Jersey
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Re: Ani Ramen
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If anyone knows or figures out where the location of their JC space is let us all know! They have good reviews of their Montclair space.

http://www.yelp.com/biz/ani-ramen-house-montclair


Posted on: 2016/3/29 15:35
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Ani Ramen is a new ramen restaurant opening up in JC. I do not know the exact location. However, I have confirmed that they are trying to open soon.

Here's a link to their website:

http://www.aniramen.com

Posted on: 2016/3/29 15:18
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