corybraiterman wrote:
i, for one, look forward to the day when vindication15 moves to his/her ideal yuppieville utopia of hoboken. MAYBE you can move to williamsburg now. there's still some vestiges of the old neighborhood still there, but that'll be gone in a couple years most likely.

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I'm probably the harshest critic of these store fronts. These stores - rainbow, hollywood chicken, sleep cheap, morlees and numerous discount stores need to close in order for JC to move forward.

K9, barcade, litm, sawadee, two boots, roman nose, the new speakeasy, bonchon, are the types of stores we need..

The smart thing to do would be for the city to secure a contract with a business owner who promises not to open these type of stores and then buy out these existing stores/restaurants.

This is the most elitist, arrogant post I have seen on here, and that is saying something. Morlee's has been around for decades, hanging on through some truly grim times. I would much rather have a cheap chicken place that makes decent chicken than an overpriced chain that isn't even based in the US like Bon Chon. I am all for an intelligent downtown business development strategy, but YOU deciding what the other people in the neighborhood--who maybe don't want to pay $11 for some chicken wing drumettes--need is not one. Not everyone is like you. Not everyone who lives downtown can afford to shop or eat like you can. Those people were here LONG before I got here in 1999 and certainly before people who think we need more bars with $14 cocktails got here.

I understand what downtown needs and I don't think you're wrong in wanting a more eclectic business mix that serves the needs of the different communities now living side by side here, but making statements like that really takes away from your good intentions and makes you sound like an elitist snob.

I thank you for your post. Why? Because it illustrates exactly the divide that DTJC is facing and the rest of JC will face. There are two options, one is to attract the types of businesses that will actually make newark ave JC's premier "restaurant row" and the other is the path of run down ghettoness that has dominated JC and prevented JC from escaping Manhattanite's derision of JC as the run down area across the Hudson.

The owners of those discount stores and hollywood chicken or where-ever are probably the most kind hearted people ever. They probably save children from orphanages during the weekend. My post is not meant to deride them. This is ultimately a business decision and when you bring emotion into it, then we can't make proper business decisions that will bring JC forward.

You can buy a bucket of chicken for $5 or whatever price they sell it for but just know that you are killing JC by doing that..or at least killing JC from ever moving forward to becoming anything remotely similar to areas in manhattan...

killing JC? JC is not just your preference of what it should be. if these stores move in, then that's what JC wants.

what JC wants is not always what JC needs....

That's a silly statement to make. Cities don't "need" to be A or B. They just are. If stores change within a city, some may like it, some may not. But that has nothing to do with needs.

When you say needs, you mean your preferences only.

Cities could either be more like areas in Camden or Manhattan...

Many would argue that Camden NEEDS to change... ..


Not saying JC is like Camden, at least not the downtown area, but what I am saying is that if you have the interest of your city in mind, you would want JC to be more like Manhattan than let's say...brownsville brooklyn or the bronx.

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I'm probably the harshest critic of these store fronts. These stores - rainbow, hollywood chicken, sleep cheap, morlees and numerous discount stores need to close in order for JC to move forward.

K9, barcade, litm, sawadee, two boots, roman nose, the new speakeasy, bonchon, are the types of stores we need..

The smart thing to do would be for the city to secure a contract with a business owner who promises not to open these type of stores and then buy out these existing stores/restaurants.

This is the most elitist, arrogant post I have seen on here, and that is saying something. Morlee's has been around for decades, hanging on through some truly grim times. I would much rather have a cheap chicken place that makes decent chicken than an overpriced chain that isn't even based in the US like Bon Chon. I am all for an intelligent downtown business development strategy, but YOU deciding what the other people in the neighborhood--who maybe don't want to pay $11 for some chicken wing drumettes--need is not one. Not everyone is like you. Not everyone who lives downtown can afford to shop or eat like you can. Those people were here LONG before I got here in 1999 and certainly before people who think we need more bars with $14 cocktails got here.

I understand what downtown needs and I don't think you're wrong in wanting a more eclectic business mix that serves the needs of the different communities now living side by side here, but making statements like that really takes away from your good intentions and makes you sound like an elitist snob.

I thank you for your post. Why? Because it illustrates exactly the divide that DTJC is facing and the rest of JC will face. There are two options, one is to attract the types of businesses that will actually make newark ave JC's premier "restaurant row" and the other is the path of run down ghettoness that has dominated JC and prevented JC from escaping Manhattanite's derision of JC as the run down area across the Hudson.

The owners of those discount stores and hollywood chicken or where-ever are probably the most kind hearted people ever. They probably save children from orphanages during the weekend. My post is not meant to deride them. This is ultimately a business decision and when you bring emotion into it, then we can't make proper business decisions that will bring JC forward.

You can buy a bucket of chicken for $5 or whatever price they sell it for but just know that you are killing JC by doing that..or at least killing JC from ever moving forward to becoming anything remotely similar to areas in manhattan...

killing JC? JC is not just your preference of what it should be. if these stores move in, then that's what JC wants.

what JC wants is not always what JC needs....

That's a silly statement to make. Cities don't "need" to be A or B. They just are. If stores change within a city, some may like it, some may not. But that has nothing to do with needs.

When you say needs, you mean your preferences only.

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SilveryJessica wrote:
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vindication15 wrote:
I'm probably the harshest critic of these store fronts. These stores - rainbow, hollywood chicken, sleep cheap, morlees and numerous discount stores need to close in order for JC to move forward.

K9, barcade, litm, sawadee, two boots, roman nose, the new speakeasy, bonchon, are the types of stores we need..

The smart thing to do would be for the city to secure a contract with a business owner who promises not to open these type of stores and then buy out these existing stores/restaurants.

This is the most elitist, arrogant post I have seen on here, and that is saying something. Morlee's has been around for decades, hanging on through some truly grim times. I would much rather have a cheap chicken place that makes decent chicken than an overpriced chain that isn't even based in the US like Bon Chon. I am all for an intelligent downtown business development strategy, but YOU deciding what the other people in the neighborhood--who maybe don't want to pay $11 for some chicken wing drumettes--need is not one. Not everyone is like you. Not everyone who lives downtown can afford to shop or eat like you can. Those people were here LONG before I got here in 1999 and certainly before people who think we need more bars with $14 cocktails got here.

I understand what downtown needs and I don't think you're wrong in wanting a more eclectic business mix that serves the needs of the different communities now living side by side here, but making statements like that really takes away from your good intentions and makes you sound like an elitist snob.

I thank you for your post. Why? Because it illustrates exactly the divide that DTJC is facing and the rest of JC will face. There are two options, one is to attract the types of businesses that will actually make newark ave JC's premier "restaurant row" and the other is the path of run down ghettoness that has dominated JC and prevented JC from escaping Manhattanite's derision of JC as the run down area across the Hudson.

The owners of those discount stores and hollywood chicken or where-ever are probably the most kind hearted people ever. They probably save children from orphanages during the weekend. My post is not meant to deride them. This is ultimately a business decision and when you bring emotion into it, then we can't make proper business decisions that will bring JC forward.

You can buy a bucket of chicken for $5 or whatever price they sell it for but just know that you are killing JC by doing that..or at least killing JC from ever moving forward to becoming anything remotely similar to areas in manhattan...

killing JC? JC is not just your preference of what it should be. if these stores move in, then that's what JC wants.

what JC wants is not always what JC needs....

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vindication15 wrote:
I'm probably the harshest critic of these store fronts. These stores - rainbow, hollywood chicken, sleep cheap, morlees and numerous discount stores need to close in order for JC to move forward.

K9, barcade, litm, sawadee, two boots, roman nose, the new speakeasy, bonchon, are the types of stores we need..

The smart thing to do would be for the city to secure a contract with a business owner who promises not to open these type of stores and then buy out these existing stores/restaurants.

This is the most elitist, arrogant post I have seen on here, and that is saying something. Morlee's has been around for decades, hanging on through some truly grim times. I would much rather have a cheap chicken place that makes decent chicken than an overpriced chain that isn't even based in the US like Bon Chon. I am all for an intelligent downtown business development strategy, but YOU deciding what the other people in the neighborhood--who maybe don't want to pay $11 for some chicken wing drumettes--need is not one. Not everyone is like you. Not everyone who lives downtown can afford to shop or eat like you can. Those people were here LONG before I got here in 1999 and certainly before people who think we need more bars with $14 cocktails got here.

I understand what downtown needs and I don't think you're wrong in wanting a more eclectic business mix that serves the needs of the different communities now living side by side here, but making statements like that really takes away from your good intentions and makes you sound like an elitist snob.

I thank you for your post. Why? Because it illustrates exactly the divide that DTJC is facing and the rest of JC will face. There are two options, one is to attract the types of businesses that will actually make newark ave JC's premier "restaurant row" and the other is the path of run down ghettoness that has dominated JC and prevented JC from escaping Manhattanite's derision of JC as the run down area across the Hudson.

The owners of those discount stores and hollywood chicken or where-ever are probably the most kind hearted people ever. They probably save children from orphanages during the weekend. My post is not meant to deride them. This is ultimately a business decision and when you bring emotion into it, then we can't make proper business decisions that will bring JC forward.

You can buy a bucket of chicken for $5 or whatever price they sell it for but just know that you are killing JC by doing that..or at least killing JC from ever moving forward to becoming anything remotely similar to areas in manhattan...

killing JC? JC is not just your preference of what it should be. if these stores move in, then that's what JC wants.

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I'm probably the harshest critic of these store fronts. These stores - rainbow, hollywood chicken, sleep cheap, morlees and numerous discount stores need to close in order for JC to move forward.

K9, barcade, litm, sawadee, two boots, roman nose, the new speakeasy, bonchon, are the types of stores we need..

The smart thing to do would be for the city to secure a contract with a business owner who promises not to open these type of stores and then buy out these existing stores/restaurants.

This is the most elitist, arrogant post I have seen on here, and that is saying something. Morlee's has been around for decades, hanging on through some truly grim times. I would much rather have a cheap chicken place that makes decent chicken than an overpriced chain that isn't even based in the US like Bon Chon. I am all for an intelligent downtown business development strategy, but YOU deciding what the other people in the neighborhood--who maybe don't want to pay $11 for some chicken wing drumettes--need is not one. Not everyone is like you. Not everyone who lives downtown can afford to shop or eat like you can. Those people were here LONG before I got here in 1999 and certainly before people who think we need more bars with $14 cocktails got here.

I understand what downtown needs and I don't think you're wrong in wanting a more eclectic business mix that serves the needs of the different communities now living side by side here, but making statements like that really takes away from your good intentions and makes you sound like an elitist snob.

I thank you for your post. Why? Because it illustrates exactly the divide that DTJC is facing and the rest of JC will face. There are two options, one is to attract the types of businesses that will actually make newark ave JC's premier "restaurant row" and the other is the path of run down ghettoness that has dominated JC and prevented JC from escaping Manhattanite's derision of JC as the run down area across the Hudson.

The owners of those discount stores and hollywood chicken or where-ever are probably the most kind hearted people ever. They probably save children from orphanages during the weekend. My post is not meant to deride them. This is ultimately a business decision and when you bring emotion into it, then we can't make proper business decisions that will bring JC forward.

You can buy a bucket of chicken for $5 or whatever price they sell it for but just know that you are killing JC by doing that..or at least killing JC from ever moving forward to becoming anything remotely similar to areas in manhattan...

vindication15 wrote:
I'm probably the harshest critic of these store fronts. These stores - rainbow, hollywood chicken, sleep cheap, morlees and numerous discount stores need to close in order for JC to move forward.

K9, barcade, litm, sawadee, two boots, roman nose, the new speakeasy, bonchon, are the types of stores we need..

The smart thing to do would be for the city to secure a contract with a business owner who promises not to open these type of stores and then buy out these existing stores/restaurants.

SilveryJessica wrote:
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vindication15 wrote:
I'm probably the harshest critic of these store fronts. These stores - rainbow, hollywood chicken, sleep cheap, morlees and numerous discount stores need to close in order for JC to move forward.

K9, barcade, litm, sawadee, two boots, roman nose, the new speakeasy, bonchon, are the types of stores we need..

The smart thing to do would be for the city to secure a contract with a business owner who promises not to open these type of stores and then buy out these existing stores/restaurants.

This is the most elitist, arrogant post I have seen on here, and that is saying something. Morlee's has been around for decades, hanging on through some truly grim times. I would much rather have a cheap chicken place that makes decent chicken than an overpriced chain that isn't even based in the US like Bon Chon. I am all for an intelligent downtown business development strategy, but YOU deciding what the other people in the neighborhood--who maybe don't want to pay $11 for some chicken wing drumettes--need is not one. Not everyone is like you. Not everyone who lives downtown can afford to shop or eat like you can. Those people were here LONG before I got here in 1999 and certainly before people who think we need more bars with $14 cocktails got here.

I understand what downtown needs and I don't think you're wrong in wanting a more eclectic business mix that serves the needs of the different communities now living side by side here, but making statements like that really takes away from your good intentions and makes you sound like an elitist snob.

vindication15 wrote:
I'm probably the harshest critic of these store fronts. These stores - rainbow, hollywood chicken, sleep cheap, morlees and numerous discount stores need to close in order for JC to move forward.

K9, barcade, litm, sawadee, two boots, roman nose, the new speakeasy, bonchon, are the types of stores we need..

The smart thing to do would be for the city to secure a contract with a business owner who promises not to open these type of stores and then buy out these existing stores/restaurants.

vindication15 wrote:
I'm probably the harshest critic of these store fronts. These stores - rainbow, hollywood chicken, sleep cheap, morlees and numerous discount stores need to close in order for JC to move forward.

K9, barcade, litm, sawadee, two boots, roman nose, the new speakeasy, bonchon, are the types of stores we need..

The smart thing to do would be for the city to secure a contract with a business owner who promises not to open these type of stores and then buy out these existing stores/restaurants.

vindication15 wrote:
I'm probably the harshest critic of these store fronts. These stores - rainbow, hollywood chicken, sleep cheap, morlees and numerous discount stores need to close in order for JC to move forward.

K9, barcade, litm, sawadee, two boots, roman nose, the new speakeasy, bonchon, are the types of stores we need..

The smart thing to do would be for the city to secure a contract with a business owner who promises not to open these type of stores and then buy out these existing stores/restaurants.

vindication15 wrote:

The smart thing to do would be for the city to secure a contract with a business owner who promises not to open these type of stores and then buy out these existing stores/restaurants.

chrisjc wrote:
Where is there a hardware store? It was mentioned in a previous post, I would love to know which store that is.

chrisjc wrote: Where is there a hardware store? It was mentioned in a previous post, I would love to know which store that is.

tommyc_37 wrote:
I thought that the Rainbow store was actually a recent addition, no?

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So last night I arrived back home at Grove Street unusually early (it was just about 7:00). As I walked up Newark Ave to the vitamin store, I noticed that about 80% (if I had to guess) of the stores were closed, and with the metal gates pulled down to the sidewalk. I am wondering how those stores make money? I imagine that the majority of people who live in the neighborhood work fairly standard hours and wouldn't even arrive home until 6:00 or later, and these stores are shuttered.

As an aside, is it just me, or do the metal gates pulled down in front of all the stores (especially before sundown) look really awful? This is something that you don't see much of at all on Washington Street in Hoboken, and our crime rates are about the same. It really is an eyesore.