vindication15 wrote:
blaming the victim - at its best

fat-ass-bike wrote:
thatgirl, you must look like a soft target to beggars. The homeless that beg must be doing some sort of reality on the job physical / racial / gender / age targeting for 'lose change' and you fit the bill or they love to give you a hard time for the fun of it - You could be their entertainment!
Being 'large and appearing in charge' has most beggars avoiding me to the same experience!

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Question for SOS: Do you have to practice being a self-important douchebag or does it come naturally?

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Question for the OP. You mentioned that you were "deep in thought." Do you recall what you were thinking that was so important that you weren't paying attention to your surroundings? Were you working on a solution to world hunger, ways to mitigate climate change, or a switch to a new color of nail polish? If you're looking for sympathy, as you're now aware, you've come to the wrong place. We gave you advice that may be hard to swallow, which is, and I'm paraphrasing -- not a good idea to space out while walking down Newark Street where the crazy homeless people hang out.

If you want to do something, file a police report on the Fisherman with the JCPD. Or instead of being a victim, you can volunteer to help solve the problem.

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Interesting you dismissed the sexual assault victim and now SOS is a douche bag. really? Look in the mirror.

The real problem here are morons like you SOS that turn the other way when disgusting aggressive homeless bother hard working tax paying citizens. Hope you get priced out and have to move out of dt.

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I called the police on a panhandler last night outside of Paradise Grocery on newark near coles. The homeless beggars have multiplied and gotten very aggressive recently. Generally I cross the street to avoid them, it has gotten so I have to cross newark back and forth 3-4 times walking from Grove to Coles, there are so many.

This particular one was a tall, somewhat skinny black man who looks like he his totally out of his head. I think he may be the same man who walked into Grove Street Bistro, walked up behind me, and put his arm around me/hand on my butt about a month ago - same out of his head look as that guy. In that previous case, I was clearly with a date and the man kept staring straight at me for the next 10 minutes at which point we left.

Last night this man stared at me non stop while was sitting on the bench outside the store and was watching where I was going. Normally I tried to ignore him but he was just super creepy and I felt like he was going to come after me. To the point where I went home, put my purse down, and went into Paradise Grocery to complain to them - I have lived there 4 years and for at least 3 they tolerate a begging bum on their doorstep - the sidewalk outside the business is the responsibility of the business owner, and if they were telling the begger to leave and calling the cops instead of letting them hang around there, they would not be there every single day. The people working in Paradise Grocery (who I know are not the owner) were trying to say there is nothing I can do. Meantime the crazy homeless man followed me into Paradise Grocery and stood there continuing to stare at me from the doorway until I started getting really mad. Then this same homeless guy asks me for money when I left at which point I screamed at him to stop f-ing staring at me. So what does he do, but continue to stare at me. It is not just the looking, that guy is whacked so far out of his head he does not even know where he is. I called the police.

The police non-emergency number said if people complain they can assign a patrol to a targeted problem spot.

Newark ave off of grove is a problem spot.
I have complained to the staff at McDonald's before telling them I am not buying anything from there because of the bums outside that live on their steps. That was a few years ago, and they said they give the bums leftover food.

Also, there is a black guy with a long beard that sits on the bench outside the bank of america on Newark near Jersey Ave. He has some mental issue and will beg for money and yell foul curses at you (and this is with just walking by/not looking at him/pretending he's not there). I had two women who I think were prostitutes harassing me for money the other night, not just 'can i have money' but going on and on so I ran across the street. Then there is the couple, the lady who lives in the shopping cart whose homeless boyfriend pushes her around. They don't usually ask for money but have moved in to the block around Helen's Pizza, they seem to live there in one particular spot at night.

The normal homeless man who is usually outside paradise deli for the last three years isn't aggressive but after three years I get tired of being begged for money by the same person on the same spot which no one ever does anything about.

They filmed Mercy the tv show at Lucky 7 a few years ago, and there were like six cops standing around doing nothing guarding that, while they ignore the beggar around the corner. Same thing when Snooki was living in town, it took six cops to stand around to guard Snooki's truck all day and all night, when those six cops walking around could remove the beggars who harass people.

Anyway I am sick and tired of the escalating homeless aggressive panhandler issue. The grafitti tags have also gotten bad. I would like to just move to a better area, but the rents have gone up a lot and it's going to be some time before I can afford to move, if ever.

In the meantime I just want to walk home in peace and safety and be left alone. I also had a different black man than all of the above, this one with dreadlocks who did not ask me for money but stared at me non-stop and followed me for four blocks regardless of my repeated turns and change in directions trying to get rid of him, he was trying to follow me home. This stuff is creeping me out. I feel like I'm going to get mugged or otherwise attacked one of these days going home, and I am not going home late. I'm talking about 6-9pm on a weekday.

And you may not think grafitti is not a big deal, but when you live in a walk-up, as in no doorman/no security, building, and you come outside in the morning and there are fresh grafitti tags on your building door, you know people were at your building messing with the door in the night. Repeatedly. Every block is covered in grafitti paint lately and the building owners aren't cleaning it. I don't know what the police can even do about that, I guess the city could fine landlords for not removing it, but that's about it. I just feel like when the landlord doesn't clean the grafitti of the building front door then that sends a signal to whoever is coming in the middle of the night to paint it that no one is watching the building and that it could be open to being broken into.

vindication15 wrote:
People also wonder why I am an advocate for new businesses of higher quality on Newark Ave....it is because a whole foods would never tolerate a vagrant outside their business. Actually, any self respecting business wouldn't either..

thatgirl wrote:
I called the police on a panhandler last night outside of Paradise Grocery on newark near coles. The homeless beggars have multiplied and gotten very aggressive recently. Generally I cross the street to avoid them, it has gotten so I have to cross newark back and forth 3-4 times walking from Grove to Coles, there are so many.

This particular one was a tall, somewhat skinny black man who looks like he his totally out of his head. I think he may be the same man who walked into Grove Street Bistro, walked up behind me, and put his arm around me/hand on my butt about a month ago - same out of his head look as that guy. In that previous case, I was clearly with a date and the man kept staring straight at me for the next 10 minutes at which point we left.

Last night this man stared at me non stop while was sitting on the bench outside the store and was watching where I was going. Normally I tried to ignore him but he was just super creepy and I felt like he was going to come after me. To the point where I went home, put my purse down, and went into Paradise Grocery to complain to them - I have lived there 4 years and for at least 3 they tolerate a begging bum on their doorstep - the sidewalk outside the business is the responsibility of the business owner, and if they were telling the begger to leave and calling the cops instead of letting them hang around there, they would not be there every single day. The people working in Paradise Grocery (who I know are not the owner) were trying to say there is nothing I can do. Meantime the crazy homeless man followed me into Paradise Grocery and stood there continuing to stare at me from the doorway until I started getting really mad. Then this same homeless guy asks me for money when I left at which point I screamed at him to stop f-ing staring at me. So what does he do, but continue to stare at me. It is not just the looking, that guy is whacked so far out of his head he does not even know where he is. I called the police.

The police non-emergency number said if people complain they can assign a patrol to a targeted problem spot.

Newark ave off of grove is a problem spot.
I have complained to the staff at McDonald's before telling them I am not buying anything from there because of the bums outside that live on their steps. That was a few years ago, and they said they give the bums leftover food.

Also, there is a black guy with a long beard that sits on the bench outside the bank of america on Newark near Jersey Ave. He has some mental issue and will beg for money and yell foul curses at you (and this is with just walking by/not looking at him/pretending he's not there). I had two women who I think were prostitutes harassing me for money the other night, not just 'can i have money' but going on and on so I ran across the street. Then there is the couple, the lady who lives in the shopping cart whose homeless boyfriend pushes her around. They don't usually ask for money but have moved in to the block around Helen's Pizza, they seem to live there in one particular spot at night.

The normal homeless man who is usually outside paradise deli for the last three years isn't aggressive but after three years I get tired of being begged for money by the same person on the same spot which no one ever does anything about.

They filmed Mercy the tv show at Lucky 7 a few years ago, and there were like six cops standing around doing nothing guarding that, while they ignore the beggar around the corner. Same thing when Snooki was living in town, it took six cops to stand around to guard Snooki's truck all day and all night, when those six cops walking around could remove the beggars who harass people.

Anyway I am sick and tired of the escalating homeless aggressive panhandler issue. The grafitti tags have also gotten bad. I would like to just move to a better area, but the rents have gone up a lot and it's going to be some time before I can afford to move, if ever.

In the meantime I just want to walk home in peace and safety and be left alone. I also had a different black man than all of the above, this one with dreadlocks who did not ask me for money but stared at me non-stop and followed me for four blocks regardless of my repeated turns and change in directions trying to get rid of him, he was trying to follow me home. This stuff is creeping me out. I feel like I'm going to get mugged or otherwise attacked one of these days going home, and I am not going home late. I'm talking about 6-9pm on a weekday.

And you may not think grafitti is not a big deal, but when you live in a walk-up, as in no doorman/no security, building, and you come outside in the morning and there are fresh grafitti tags on your building door, you know people were at your building messing with the door in the night. Repeatedly. Every block is covered in grafitti paint lately and the building owners aren't cleaning it. I don't know what the police can even do about that, I guess the city could fine landlords for not removing it, but that's about it. I just feel like when the landlord doesn't clean the grafitti of the building front door then that sends a signal to whoever is coming in the middle of the night to paint it that no one is watching the building and that it could be open to being broken into.

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A man matching the description in the OP was over on Erie today walking north from Newark and I unfortunately wound up right behind him. I crossed the street and sat down by Torico's until he left, but he was yelling as he walked along Erie and then he stood at First and Erie for a good three or four minutes screaming angrily at imaginary companions about irrational things. This is the first person I can ever recall over here who was remotely violent, which he definitely seemed to have the potential to be. I am a little concerned because I live right there and walk my dogs all alone multiple times a day.

that's Johnny HardHat.

He's schizophrenic, but harmless. He enjoys wearing hardhats, playing his vuvuzela, and carrying an umbrella at all times.

He wears nicer clothes than most crazies, new outfit everyday. This leads me to believe he has a place to stay each night (family member, or otherwise) but is set free and wanders around during the day. He likes to stand on the corner of Jersey & Columbus and shout at passing cars. He looks lcean, well groomed, always has interesting accessories and props. He certainly has schizophrenia though.

Just cross the street or walk down another block if you want to avoid him. He's not assaulting anyone, so just ignore him. He's not at all violent.

He lives on Erie St. with his brother. Crazy, but not homeless.

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A man matching the description in the OP was over on Erie today walking north from Newark and I unfortunately wound up right behind him. I crossed the street and sat down by Torico's until he left, but he was yelling as he walked along Erie and then he stood at First and Erie for a good three or four minutes screaming angrily at imaginary companions about irrational things. This is the first person I can ever recall over here who was remotely violent, which he definitely seemed to have the potential to be. I am a little concerned because I live right there and walk my dogs all alone multiple times a day.

that's Johnny HardHat.

He's schizophrenic, but harmless. He enjoys wearing hardhats, playing his vuvuzela, and carrying an umbrella at all times.

He wears nicer clothes than most crazies, new outfit everyday. This leads me to believe he has a place to stay each night (family member, or otherwise) but is set free and wanders around during the day. He likes to stand on the corner of Jersey & Columbus and shout at passing cars. He looks lcean, well groomed, always has interesting accessories and props. He certainly has schizophrenia though.

Just cross the street or walk down another block if you want to avoid him. He's not assaulting anyone, so just ignore him. He's not at all violent.

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A man matching the description in the OP was over on Erie today walking north from Newark and I unfortunately wound up right behind him. I crossed the street and sat down by Torico's until he left, but he was yelling as he walked along Erie and then he stood at First and Erie for a good three or four minutes screaming angrily at imaginary companions about irrational things. This is the first person I can ever recall over here who was remotely violent, which he definitely seemed to have the potential to be. I am a little concerned because I live right there and walk my dogs all alone multiple times a day.

Nah, that's the hardhat guy. He's fine.

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A man matching the description in the OP was over on Erie today walking north from Newark and I unfortunately wound up right behind him. I crossed the street and sat down by Torico's until he left, but he was yelling as he walked along Erie and then he stood at First and Erie for a good three or four minutes screaming angrily at imaginary companions about irrational things. This is the first person I can ever recall over here who was remotely violent, which he definitely seemed to have the potential to be. I am a little concerned because I live right there and walk my dogs all alone multiple times a day.

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A man matching the description in the OP was over on Erie today walking north from Newark and I unfortunately wound up right behind him. I crossed the street and sat down by Torico's until he left, but he was yelling as he walked along Erie and then he stood at First and Erie for a good three or four minutes screaming angrily at imaginary companions about irrational things. This is the first person I can ever recall over here who was remotely violent, which he definitely seemed to have the potential to be. I am a little concerned because I live right there and walk my dogs all alone multiple times a day.

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No-one is suggesting you walk around in a state of fear. An analogy is driving. In heavy traffic, you increase your focus and awareness of what is happening around you. In lighter traffic, you can fix your make-up, eat a donut, whatever...

Exactly!! I see people walking and texting, facebooking, jclisting, & tweeting like idiots.

I seen a dude not too far from my work on Orchard street walk right into another dude while texting and the dude he walked into punch the crap out of him. People just walk around like zombies.

The person you describe above who "punched the crap" out of someone for walking into them is a criminal sociopath who should have been arrested. I would have called the police and given them my account as a witness if I saw something like that.

Dunno man, when I was a kid, my parents always told me to watch where I'm going. After bumping into enough adults and falling on my ass I learned. Pretty much the same lesson here.

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No-one is suggesting you walk around in a state of fear. An analogy is driving. In heavy traffic, you increase your focus and awareness of what is happening around you. In lighter traffic, you can fix your make-up, eat a donut, whatever...

fat-ass-bike wrote:
wow!

with some of the comments made, IT DOES suggest we live in fear and that we should walk around without any creature or luxury comforts on display (I'm going to advocate we all walk butt naked so as not to attract attention to ourselves). A curfew of all children and the elderly should be inforced on any public land and all cell phones need to be banned, so we are not distracted. The rest need to be armed to the teeth and have a 'people radar' to insure we don't bump into anyone.

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No-one is suggesting you walk around in a state of fear. An analogy is driving. In heavy traffic, you increase your focus and awareness of what is happening around you. In lighter traffic, you can fix your make-up, eat a donut, whatever...

Exactly!! I see people walking and texting, facebooking, jclisting, & tweeting like idiots.

I seen a dude not too far from my work on Orchard street walk right into another dude while texting and the dude he walked into punch the crap out of him. People just walk around like zombies.

The person you describe above who "punched the crap" out of someone for walking into them is a criminal sociopath who should have been arrested. I would have called the police and given them my account as a witness if I saw something like that.

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No-one is suggesting you walk around in a state of fear. An analogy is driving. In heavy traffic, you increase your focus and awareness of what is happening around you. In lighter traffic, you can fix your make-up, eat a donut, whatever...

Exactly!! I see people walking and texting, facebooking, jclisting, & tweeting like idiots.

I seen a dude not too far from my work on Orchard street walk right into another dude while texting and the dude he walked into punch the crap out of him. People just walk around like zombies.

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No-one is suggesting you walk around in a state of fear. An analogy is driving. In heavy traffic, you increase your focus and awareness of what is happening around you. In lighter traffic, you can fix your make-up, eat a donut, whatever...

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user1111 wrote:
I am aware wherever I go, from Greenville to the upper west side of NYC. We do not live in the 1950's this is 2013 where guns have become the norm and crazy is the new black in the metro area.

If you walk around daydreaming then you get what you get. Wake the fuk up!!

No one is 100% aware at all times, so spare me with that stuff.

You are right unaware folks are called victims.

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I am aware wherever I go, from Greenville to the upper west side of NYC. We do not live in the 1950's this is 2013 where guns have become the norm and crazy is the new black in the metro area.

If you walk around daydreaming then you get what you get. Wake the fuk up!!