bthoma wrote:
Just plan all your driving on Columbus. Ever since they paved it there has been a noticeable lack of crosswalks on the newly-paved portions of the street. Should take the city another year to put them in, so as long as your driving on it you shouldn't have to stop for anyone.

rbnyfan wrote:
Agreed. I've done this before too, but with a slightly different twist; one day I was driving southbound on Washington Blvd near Target, when I saw a family of ducks/geese (can't remember, but probably ducks) trying to cross the road. I slowed down and eventually stopped well short so that they could cross in front of me.
Mr. impatient BMW behind me could not wait (and in his defense, likely did not see the animals crossing), so he tried to pull out from behind me to pass me, and would have surely squashed a few of the babies in his haste.
Luckily I anticipated his action, moved my car over so he couldn't pass me, all the while he honked at me. Shortly after he saw the family crossing and stopped honking...probably felt like a D bag.

brewster wrote:
I dutifully stopped on Grove at 8th for a woman with a stroller to cross. While she was in front of my minivan I saw in the mirror a car behind me swerve to my left without braking to pass me. I honked my horn in panic at the mother, fortunately she was cautious enough to take it slow and was not hit. We exchanged disgusted looks.

I was somewhat to the right, as I was turning. Lesson is: block the whole road when you stop for pedestrians or you'll be an accessory to murder.

brewster wrote:
What about where there's no marked crosswalk? doesn't that mean "cross somewhere else"? I saw an amazing feat of attempted Darwinism today, a woman pushed her stroller across Hoboken's Newark Ave at Harrison at rush hour to the NW corner. If there's a more dangerous uncontrolled intersection in JC I'd like to know (I believe its in JC). In addition to northbound cars whipping around the corner there's cars trying to turn off Harrison towards the Tpk and struggling to insert themselves into the nearly continuous stream of cars created by the Monroe, Newark & Grove intersection. This means they're turning right looking left and hitting the gas. Right where she pushed her child! Presuming she was coming from 18th st she should have crossed Jersey and come up the sidewalk at the outside of the bend. Do they need a sign saying "don't even think about crossing here"?

brewster wrote:
What about where there's no marked crosswalk? doesn't that mean "cross somewhere else"?

You are warned, don't speed or roll through stop signs going down Manila, you will be caught. Both marked and unmarked cars are waiting ( :

81905 wrote:
This is a start. These types of awareness signs do not exist in JC. I have not seen them anywhere. Surely the city could determine the most dangerous intersections and install these. Afterall, many drivers have no idea that there is a new law regarding stopping for pedestrians/bikers in painted cross walks.

http://www.tapcostore.com/State-Law-Stop-for-Sign-p/1636-00039.htm

PathH8Tr wrote:
As I posted above: "I hear what you're saying and that makes sense Snowflake20." I think you just want to be heard. You are.

I don't want to argue each thread and dilute the message I wanted to make that as a taxpayer with a small child in this area I'd like to see more vehicles stop for pedestrians at crosswalks. Regardless of the intelligence of a pedestrian, or a driver, for that matter - it's the law.

brewster wrote:
Just got back from dropping my son in Hoboken. If you aren't aggressive you'd simply never get across 1st St on Park at rush hour. There's pedestrians in a more or less continuous stream on both sidewalks, and a flow of cars on 1st. Sometimes reality about crosswalks in our dense city is different from more civilized places. Pedestrians gotta look up and be part of the dance, and not just think they're 100% right at all times.

snowflake20 wrote:
Like I said, I stop for pedestrians at crosswalks. I shouldn't have to slam on my brake for someone who wasn't even on the curb when I am approaching the crosswalk, who decides to run into traffic because they are stupid or have a deathwish.

And btw, I have kids too. I stop at the curb and look both ways before I cross the street. I do not think that my stroller is a device to stop oncoming traffic. I don't cross unless I have a light and even then I stop at the curb and I make sure that it's safe before I cross the street. I also never enter the crosswalk until I know that I can actually cross the street.

To assume that drivers are always the discourteous ones in this city 100% of the time is ridiculous. Have you seen some of the people in this city walking around like they don't give a crap if a car is coming or not? Walking against lights? In the middle of the street? I stop for buses, I stop for pedestrians, I stop for a family of geese! I never "block the box" and I drive the speed limit. I am a courteous driver and a safe pedestrian.

I will admit that there are a lot of crap drivers out there too, but just as there are a lot of crap drivers, there are a lot of crap pedestrians.