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ugh. just got another creepy email from Spectra, this one with the subject line "A Breath of Fresh Air."

it ended with a call for support:

"We need community members like you who can lend their support to the economic opportunities and environmental benefits this pipeline affords. Please log onto our website or contact our Jersey City office toll-free with any questions..."

I wonder who's actually falling for this crapload?

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This could be significant, if they actually do it:

New Jersey Board of Public Utilities Looks to Intervene in Spectra Energy?s Natural Gas Pipeline Application

http://www.jerseycityindependent.com/ ... gas-pipeline-application/

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Go to http://elibrary.ferc.gov/IDMWS/search/fercgensearch.asp

and search for "Spectra" or "Texas Eastern". It shows all the filings that FERC has received.

One document in particular seems to indicate that they will put the pipeline under the Path train tracks through most of downtown JC north of Columbus and to Hoboken.

http://elibrary.ferc.gov/idmws/common/opennat.asp?fileID=12514546

While that doesn't address all my concerns, I think think it removes a few major ones. Worth a read.

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Philadelphia Gas Main Explodes


http://www.accuweather.com/video/7548 ... ideo-gas-main-explode.asp

Jan 19, 2011; 9:26 AM ET
Philadelphia Gas Works (PGW) reports that a 12-inch high pressure gas main broke. While crews were working on the break an explosion occurred.

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Everybody is getting an Uncle Sam Bailout except me.

Look at Ground Zero in NYC. Hello. Empire State Building was built in "just 410 days after construction commenced. The building was officially opened on May 1, 1931 in dramatic fashion" - according to Wikipedia.

NYC has been on the Federal Gravy Train for a long time.

I'd love for my place to be blown up, I'm so far underwater due to the tax increases that its not funny.

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And if we blow you up, we don't have the resources of a BP to make you whole, so you're gonna get a bailout from Uncle Sam a-la big-banks.

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It would be funny if it wasn't true....

Hey we'd like to build a bomb in your back yard, Tell us your concerns so we can tell FERC that we've consulted you (and ignored you).

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Oh I just saw that on the news.... but if it runs under the turnpike, it could be great. More revenue for the city, and if it blows, we get rid of the turnpike and all its pollution as well.

A win, win.

Seriously, it didn't look THAT bad. Typical media. A little explosion goes a long way.

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I got a creepy automated phone call from Spectra about the pipeline last week. I hope this doesn't happen.

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SPECTRA PLAN
Argument against pipeline

Monday, January 17, 2011
By BRETT WILSHE - JOURNAL STAFF WRITER
aired at Riverside meeting

The potential dangers of Spectra's proposed natural gas pipeline took the spotlight at Tuesday night's monthly meeting of the Riverside Neighborhood Association in Jersey City.

In December, the Texas-based company filed an application to snake the proposed pipeline through Jersey City, Bayonne, and offshore Hoboken. The pipeline would serve customers in New York City.

Stephen Musgrave, co-creator of NoGasPipeline.org, addressed about 30 association members in the cafeteria of the Harbor View Health Center on Ogden Avenue at 7:30 p.m.

"This pipe has the same specifications as the one in California that blew up in September," Musgrave said.

He distributed an "infographic" showing the areas that would be affected if the pipeline were to explode in the same fashion as the Pacific Gas and Electric pipeline in San Bruno.

Densely populated areas of Jersey City and a 911 regional response center would be at immediate risk, Musgrave said.

U.S. Sen. Frank Lautenberg, U.S. Rep. Albio Sires, Jersey City Mayor Jerramiah T. Healy, and state Sen. Sandra B. Cunningham have all raised concerns about the safety of the pipeline.

Bayonne Mayor Mark Smith is against the pipeline running through residential areas in Bayonne.

Last week, the City of Jersey City filed for intervenor status with the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, which means the city could legally challenge the pipeline if FERC gives it a green light.

The Sierra Club of New Jersey, which supports the use of natural gas, has said that the changes Spectra included in its final application significantly improves the plan.

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did anyone else get this ridiculous email from Spectra?
I don't know what I'm more creeped-out by: the patronizing tone, or the fact that Spectra now has me in their rolodex.

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At Spectra Energy, we put safety first.

That's why Spectra Energy's proposed new natural gas pipeline will be among the safest ever built in the United States - with state-of-the-art design and construction techniques as well as ongoing monitoring, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

The New Jersey-New York ExpansionProject is vital to our region's energy infrastructure and tremendously important to ensuring we have reliable and affordable access to clean-burning natural gas to cook our food and heat our homes, local schools and hospitals each and every day.

The project will also help create more than 2,300 direct and indirect jobs in Jersey City alone and provide millions in new tax revenue for Jersey City that can be used in a variety of ways: for local schools, to offset municipal tax increases, to continue to fund emergency services and for infrastructure improvement projects.

We have established www.YesGasPipeline.org as our online hub to continue interacting with leaders of the community interested in learning more about the pipeline project, and its positive impact on Jersey City. The website also allows you to sign-up and lend your support to the pipeline expansion project using our online form here.

Please contact our Jersey City office toll-free with any questions: 1-888-568-7269. We look forward to your feedback.

Sincerely,
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Several Jersey City residents have made us aware of a post card that is being sent out by Spectra Energy, claiming "safety" and featuring the image of a child. Exploiting the image of a child to emotively sell their dangerous pipeline ? this should tell you something about how they operate and the credibility of their claims to safety and stewardship. They will say anything.

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Look at this
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF ... source=embed&ll=40.714151,-74.051542&spn=0.013207,0.029955&t=h&z=14


Check the website
http://nogaspipeline.org/the-danger

Then Call Governor Christie
Call Governor Christie's office at (609) 292-6000.

(With the Mayor announcing that he intends to seek Intervenor standing at FERC, it is time to shift gears to the state and federal level!)

Demand the Governor Intervene @ FERC!
Suggested script:

My name is ______ and I live in Jersey City. Please demand the Attorney General intervene at FERC to stop the natural gas pipeline, proposed to run through Jersey City, Only intervenors can overturn a FERC ruling through the Federal Courts.

Mayor Healy has declared to seek Intervenor standing. We ask the Governor to demand our New Jersey Attorney General declare to seek intervenor legal standing with FERC before upcoming deadlines are announced.

Call Governor Christie's office at (609) 292-6000.

This is scary stuff!

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We are well aware that Spectra filed their formal application on Dec 20th as was written about by all local media and posted on our home page. We responded to this filing in the Jersey City Independent and on our site. We will be filing as an intervenor with legal standing against FERC represented by the Eastern Environmental Law Center as reported on our web site.

I suggest you check out our site and sign up for alerts for our updates.


Great can you post the legal notice on this thread..it is an interesting read.

I would love to know if any NJ politicians own private land that is needed for the pipeline?.

?Texas Eastern and Algonquin will need to acquire permanent and temporary property interests from a limited number of landowners for the proposed facilities.?

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Don?t know if you already knew this.. Spectra has been running legal notices in the JJ since last week. (12/30/10)

It is a full page notice that says they filed an application with the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) . It says land owners near the proposed pipeline will receive notices in the mail. It has a lot of detail. I will give a heads up the next time I see it in the JJ. (but you guys should be buying the JJ anyway!!)


We are well aware that Spectra filed their formal application on Dec 20th as was written about by all local media and posted on our home page. We responded to this filing in the Jersey City Independent and on our site. We will be filing as an intervenor with legal standing against FERC represented by the Eastern Environmental Law Center as reported on our web site.

I suggest you check out our site and sign up for alerts for our updates.

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Don?t know if you already knew this.. Spectra has been running legal notices in the JJ since last week. (12/30/10)

It is a full page notice that says they filed an application with the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) . It says land owners near the proposed pipeline will receive notices in the mail. It has a lot of detail. I will give a heads up the next time I see it in the JJ. (but you guys should be buying the JJ anyway!!)

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Gallery requests art work for pipeline-inspired exhibit
Monday, January 03, 2011
By SUMMER DAWN HORTILLOSA
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In response to Spectra Energy's proposal to run a natural gas pipeline through Jersey City, Bayonne and the shores of Hoboken, several artists from Jersey City are initiating an art exhibition entitled "Dark Matter: Bright Future?" that shows how environmental issues can affect the future.

Event listings posted online by Andrea Morin, the curator of LITM gallery - which is also a lounge and restaurant at 140 Newark Ave. in Jersey City - said the exhibition was inspired by the group NoGasPipeline.org that is working to prevent the pipeline project from being launched.


Morin is currently calling local artists to submit work for the exhibition. All submissions must reflect upon how environmental issues such as the pipeline project can affect the community in the near and distant future.

"I feel that in a time when we, as a society, should be moving towards safer, more sustainable energy sources, it is an error to be installing new gas pipelines," Morin said.

"I am happy to ... draw attention to the issue," she added.

Morin invites artists to interpret the theme freely and will accept works in any medium as long as they can be hung on the gallery's walls.

The deadline for work submission is Jan. 30. For event or submission details for "Dark Matter: Bright Future," e-mail Andrea@LITM.com.

Spectra Energy filed an application for the pipeline project on Dec. 20 with the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission. Given the changes made to the original design, the New Jersey chapter of the Sierra Club, has endorsed the plan.

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Dark Matter: Bright Future? LITM Hosts a Benefit for NO Gas Pipeline
Tuesday, January 4, 2011 - 7:00pm Please join us on January 4 from 7 PM to 10 PM for the opening of Dark Matter: Bright Future?, LITM\'s next art show which asks the questions: Are you fearful of a dark future? Or hopeful for a bright one? $10 Suggested Donation (no cover) - All proceeds go toward NO Gas Pipeline\'s effort to fight the proposed pipeline. $3 white and red wine $5 'Dark Matter' shots YOU can make the difference so that WE have a Bright Future and NOT exist in Dark Matter. This show is inspired by the group NoGasPipeline,org who are working to prevent a dangerous gas pipeline from being run through Jersey City to transport natural gas to NYC. This pipeline would not only be dangerous, but provides no benefits to Jersey City or its citizens at all. Please visit their website for specifics on this issue. CALL FOR ART Call for Art "Dark Matter: Bright Future?? Entry deadline: Thursday Dec 30th Exhibition for the month of January (Jan 3-Jan 30) Work will be taken down on Monday Jan 31st ...Opening Reception: Tuesday Jan 4th 7-10pm For the show we are looking for work that reflects upon how environmental issues such as this will affect our futures both near and far. While works directly relating to Jersey City are encouraged, this is not required. The theme is wide open for artistic interpretation. Are you fearful of a dark future? Or hopeful for a bright one? Do you think everything will continue along the way it is, or will there be drastic differences? Your interpretations could be literal, allegorical, expressive, abstract... There are no limitations on medium, but all works must be able to be hung on the wall. The artist will receive 60% of the sales price with the remaining 40% going to the gallery. PLEASE PRICE ACCORDINGLY! ONCE ACCEPTED artists must drop off work by January 2nd between the hours of 3:30pm and 7pm. If this window does not work for you other arrangements can be made on an individual basis. Be sure to include your name, title, medium, dimensions, and price, as well as any other pertinent information with your submission. Please submit JPEG entries or website link to: andrea@litm.com Location LITM 140 Newark Ave Jersey City, NJ 07302 201-536-5557 www.LITM.com View Larger Map

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http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... ergy_reroutes_and_re.html

this is not true, changes are not rerouting but increasing the depth.

Spectra Energy reroutes and redesigns pipeline after fierce opposition from Jersey City and Bayonne officials, residents

After facing great opposition from citizens and politicians from Jersey City and Bayonne, Spectra Energy has redesigned and rerouted its controversial gas pipeline, according to today's Jersey Journal.

Spectra spokeswoman Marylee Hanley said the company has made significant changes to its proposal in response to concerns raised by residents and elected officials.

"We have made numerous safety enhancements to the design, construction and operations of the pipeline," she said.

"In some areas where we heard the greatest concern, in both Jersey City and Bayonne, and additional engineering options were viable, we will be avoiding in-street construction and performing horizontal directional drills that would place the pipe at a depth greater than 60 feet below the ground," she added.

The company wants to extend an existing natural gas pipeline from Linden to Staten Island, under the Kill Van Kull to Bayonne, and then through Jersey City. The pipe will serve Con Edison

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NY 'Fracking' Ban: Governor David Paterson Orders Natural Gas Hydraulic Fracturing Moratorium For Seven Months In New York

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ALBANY, N.Y. ? Environmental groups and energy companies both claimed victory after Gov. David Paterson ordered a seven-month moratorium on some natural gas drilling in the state, although environmentalists would have preferred the broader ban that the Legislature had approved.

The outgoing Democratic governor vetoed a bill on Saturday that would have suspended all new natural-gas drilling permits until May 15. Instead, he issued an executive order prohibiting high-volume hydraulic fracturing of horizontally drilled wells, such as those in the Marcellus Shale region of southern New York. The order stands until July 1.

High-volume hydraulic fracturing, also known as fracking, involves blasting millions of gallons of chemical-laced water thousands of feet underground to crack shale and release natural gas trapped inside it. The Environmental Protection Agency is examining the process to see if it imperils drinking water supplies, as opponents claim.

Permitting of gas wells in New York's part of the Marcellus region, which also underlies parts of Pennsylvania, Ohio, and West Virginia, has already been on hold for two years while the state Department of Environmental Conservation reviews its potential effects on the environment.

In vetoing the Legislature's oil and gas-drilling moratorium, Paterson said it would have applied to all conventional, low-volume, vertically drilled wells, effectively shutting down an industry that has been operating safely for decades.

Low-volume hydraulic fracturing of conventional, vertical wells uses several thousand gallons of water per well, versus up to 8 million gallons per horizontal well with high-volume fracturing.

Paterson's budget office estimated that such a broad ban would cost thousands of industry jobs, stop landowner payments and significantly reduce state and local revenues from permit fees and taxes.

The Independent Oil and Gas Association of New York said the Legislature's moratorium would have threatened the viability of more than 300 producing companies and the jobs of their 5,000 employees.

The state Farm Bureau also lobbied for Paterson's veto, saying its members have benefited from vertical gas drilling for many years and invested the royalty payments into their farms.

The oil and gas association said the Legislature's bill would have cut in half the number of months drilling could take place next year, resulting in a net loss of nearly $800,000 in real property taxes and $1.4 million in royalty payments.

"The moratorium bill would have forced me to evaluate my company's future in New York," said John Holko, president of Lenape Resources, a gas-drilling company in Genesee County.

A coalition of about a dozen environmental groups released a statement praising Paterson's moratorium while warning that it creates a "loophole" that industry can exploit. That is, it doesn't apply to vertical wells, "exactly the kind of wells that were responsible for ruining nine square miles of aquifer and poisoning the drinking water of more than a dozen families in Dimock, Pa.," the groups said.

In Dimock, homeowners sued last year after Houston-based Cabot Oil & Gas Corp. drilled faulty wells that allowed methane and, possibly, toxic drilling chemicals to escape into their drinking water aquifer.

The environmental groups, which include Environmental Advocates, Earthjustice, the Natural Resources Defense Council, Sierra Club and others, said they would call on Gov.-elect Andrew Cuomo to "fix the loophole."

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UPDATE: Spectra Energy Pipeline Discussion Sponsored by Downtown Coalition of Neighborhood Associations
Spectra has backed out of our meeting, but we are forging ahead and using the occasion to continue our community outreach with the following speakers.


Mayor Jerramiah Healy
Sgt. W. Greg Kierce, Director, Office of Emergency Management and Homeland Security (OEM)
Councilman Steven Fulop
Dale Hardman, Founder of NO Gas Pipeline
Stephen Musgrave, Co-Founder of NO Gas Pipeline
In addition to the speakers, NO Gas Pipeline will present a slideshow highlighting the dangers and maps of the proposed pipeline route.

This is a city-wide event and very important to our effort to keep the community informed and involved. Please attend to learn and ask questions about the proposed pipeline!

Sponsored by the DCNA (Downtown Coalition of Neighborhood Associations)
December 1, 2010 7:30 - 9:00
(doors open at 7pm)

The Cordero School PS 37
Erie St between Pavonia/9th Street
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For more information call 201-855-9038 or email hpnajc@gmail.com.

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The Downtown Coalition of Neighborhood Associations (DCNA ) had invited Spectra Energy's Tim White to speak to the public on December 1st at Codero School, PS #37 from 7 until 9PM. Unfortunately Spectra declined at this time.

NO Gas Pipeline was notified that Spectra Energy hired MWW, the 5th largest Public Relations firm in the US, to speak on their behalf at neighborhood meetings. Subsequently, Tim White, MWW Vice President, has been engaged by Spectra Energy to be their spokesman. Mr. White has written many of the downtown neighborhood associations separately requesting to speak on behalf of Spectra Energy, make a laptop presentation and in letter stated that he would be accompanied by " four or five Spectra persons?. This is why the DCNA decided to have one meeting.

When Spectra says they have "cancelled the meeting" they have the right only to cancel their participation NOT the DCNA's rights to continue to hold their own meeting.

DCNA therefore declares this public meeting open to all on Dec 1st and ask that you come out to not only ask questions but to show support for the DCNA's rightful position to continue this meeting sans Spectra and Tim White.

NO Gas Pipeline has asked that those in opposition to the pipeline?s proposed route through Jersey City please come to show their opposition to the gas pipeline and ask questions. Tonight we bring new information that will be addressed by our special guests:

Mayor Jerramiah Healy
Sgt. W. Greg Kierce, Director
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Councilman Steven Fulop
Stephen Musgrave, Co-Founder of NO Gas Pipeline
Dale Hardman, Founder of NO Gas Pipeline

In addition to the speakers, we will show an excellent slide presentation detailing all of NO Gas Pipeline site with discussion.

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A letter from a woman in New York is supposed to convince me to let a pipeline be built in New Jersey? Could they seriously not find a single person in New Jersey to write a letter for them?

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I guess GasKills.org was already taken.... How original of them!

New Spectra Energy website touts benefits of proposed pipeline to run through Jersey City and Bayonne
Published: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 9:44 AM
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Spectra Energy has launched a new website to promote their proposal to build a natural gas pipeline that will run through Jersey City and Bayonne. The website, YesGasPipeline.org, emphasizes the tax revenue and job creation benefits of the project, as reported by today's Journal.

Tim White, a a vice president at MWW group, told the Jersey Journal that the site is one of many ways the company is reaching out to the community. Locals have fiercely protested the pipeline by creating websites pointing out the dangers and environmental issues associated with natural gas pipelines (like NoGasPipeline.org) and changing local zoning laws in attempt to block the pipeline, as previously reported by the Journal.

The gas pipeline is part of Spectra's New York/New Jersey Expansion Project.

Read the rest of the story in today's Jersey Journal.

So - Spectra doesn't allow you to post directly onto their site, but you can provide comments to them at http://www.yesgaspipeline.org/contact/

They claim the pipeline will create 5,200 permanent jobs in "North New Jersey and New York. Beyond fiction.

They also have a "Support for the project" section that features two letters - one from the head of the trade union who will supply the workers to build the project and the other a woman in NY.

Check the site out. Give them comments. Also - they have an office at Warren and Dudley. Maybe a few dozen of us could go visit them after Thanksgiving.

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What they're doing is unethical and a good example of the kind of behavior we'd be in for if Spectra gets a foothold in Jersey City.

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I just answered questions about the pipeline from the survey company. They first ask if you would like to take a survey about "Jersey City." Then they ask you about your opinions of our elected officials. Most of the questions about the pipeline were something like "would you be more likely to support the pipeline or would you be neutral if you knew that Spectra would reduce your taxes with the pipeline?" I just kept saying that I would still be against it and that it wouldn't help me. They ended the call asking me questions about whether I read newspapers, watch tv and email people.

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I got a phone call last night from one of those hired survey companies asking me about the pipeline. Sounds like they were trying to figure out what kind of reassuring nonsense they could use to sway people for the pipeline. Anyone else get these calls or know who's behind them?


I've posted an answer to your query here before and if you go to our site below, look to the left where the Blog column is you will find a detailed answer.

PS: Sign up for Alerts on our site and you'd already know in detail what's going on with the surveys as we send out regular updates.


www.nogaspipeline.org

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The survey is designed to support the Spectra Energy pipeline through JC. I am not sure that there is a way around it, because the questions are formulated in a way which supports the pipeline.


I can already read the results....and unfortunately it could be damaging. "We conducted an independent poll of 5,000 JC residents and the majority said they welcomed the new jobs and money the pipeline would bring.....".

Can we counter this BS by our own poll/petition?

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The survey is designed to support the Spectra Energy pipeline through JC. I am not sure that there is a way around it, because the questions are formulated in a way which supports the pipeline.

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