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PATH has trash "cans." Its usually the top of the support columns or under the benches.


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The whole security-paranoia sham that looms over everything is really sad. Example - the office building at Columbus and Marin with the bollards surrounding two sides of it (along Columbus and Marin.) Really? That building is a target for terrorists when there are easily 500 higher value targets that don't have near the same level of external barriers just across the river? The Grove Street PATH station can't have a trash can when the many subway platforms sitting under Grand Central, Penn Station, Wall Street, etc. do? Because the Grove Street PATH station (or JSQ or Exchange Place, etc.) are much more valuable targets? And the guys with the machine guns at the WTC. Do we really need that? Or is it yet another way for the Port Authority to spend money?

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There should be cans inside.

The stations should accomodate the real world, not fantasy land where no one eats on the train and everyone carries off their AM NY.

You must be living in your own fantasy...
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But we live in a 3rd world country where no one obeys rules. What makes you think adding a garbage can will dissuade people from throwing refuse away elsewhere in the station?


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BTW, the security reasons are pretty much bullshit. You know who actually lives under constant threat of terrorist activity? Israel. You know who still uses public trash cans in transportation areas?

Israel. They use large concrete cylinders.

If they're able to do so "for security reasons", then there's literally zero excuse that the PA can give on this.

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BTW, the security reasons are pretty much bullshit. You know who actually lives under constant threat of terrorist activity? Israel. You know who still uses public trash cans in transportation areas?

Israel. They use large concrete cylinders.

If they're able to do so "for security reasons", then there's literally zero excuse that the PA can give on this.


Agreed the security reasons are bs but you picked the low hanging fruit.

There are plenty of valid reasons not to have garbage cans in the stations, chiefly that they provide extra food for rodents and lead to greater waste. This is why the MTA is getting rid of them. Read some of the links and studies that people have posted.

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BTW, the security reasons are pretty much bullshit. You know who actually lives under constant threat of terrorist activity? Israel. You know who still uses public trash cans in transportation areas?

Israel. They use large concrete cylinders.

If they're able to do so "for security reasons", then there's literally zero excuse that the PA can give on this.

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No. Installing garbage cans would be a step backwards.
Why would we want to provide a growing food supply to Path rats and mice? Besides, there are several studies that show that the reduction/removal of trash cans can have a positive impact one our behavior: people produce less garbage, they recycle more, and the sites are measurably cleaner than when garbage cans were in place.

http://www.mnn.com/money/sustainable- ... ans-for-google-employees#

http://www.calrecycle.ca.gov/Publicat ... /LocalAsst%5C31002007.pdf

Of course, some people will just litter, but it seems that most would pack it out.

Now, I do agree that trash bins should remain available outside of Path stations. Why not even add recycling bins? (Ah, because we are not there yet).

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The MTA has been studying this, and it looks like the PATH is actually doing something right:

http://commercialobserver.com/2014/01 ... ash-cans-less-litter-mta/

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LOL, it is 2014. I can't even recall the last time I had garbage not related to food. No food means no need for trashcans.

Reading an actual newspaper or magazine?!? GET WITH THE TIMES.

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It's 2014 and people still use newspapers, whether you like it or not. (Not me, though). Not having garbage cans isn't going to stop people from reading them either.

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LOL, it is 2014. I can't even recall the last time I had garbage not related to food. No food means no need for trashcans.

Reading an actual newspaper or magazine?!? GET WITH THE TIMES.

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There should be cans inside.

The stations should accomodate the real world, not fantasy land where no one eats on the train and everyone carries off their AM NY.

You must be living in your own fantasy...
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There should be cans inside.

The stations should accomodate the real world, not fantasy land where no one eats on the train and everyone carries off their AM NY.

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There are garbage cans outside each station.

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hmmmm so I guess all of you are carrying around mucus filled tissues during cold seasons. eeeewww[/quote]

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Isn't that what they used to do years when ladies and gentlemen carried hankerchiefs ? Plus a lady was able to get a man's attention by dropping her hankie.

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hmmmm so I guess all of you are carrying around mucus filled tissues during cold seasons. eeeewww

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paper trash can be brought home to recycle

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I think it's curious that the site implies trash cans are for food. I for one don't eat in the PATH stations/trains since it's not allowed, but on more than one occasion I've had paper, magazines, random stuff that I needed to dispose of.

What you bring with you...you are expected to take with you.


Understood, and I wasn't complaining. I was just pointing out that the conversation should not be centered around food because that's not the only thing that goes in the trash.

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I think it's curious that the site implies trash cans are for food. I for one don't eat in the PATH stations/trains since it's not allowed, but on more than one occasion I've had paper, magazines, random stuff that I needed to dispose of.


The conversation centers around food because this is what garbage cans are primarily used for. It would be silly to ignore this fact just because they have alternative uses.

Also it's worth mentioning that NYC has been removing garbage cans from subway stations and have found great benefits in doing so. So installing them in NJ would be foolish.


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I think it's curious that the site implies trash cans are for food. I for one don't eat in the PATH stations/trains since it's not allowed, but on more than one occasion I've had paper, magazines, random stuff that I needed to dispose of.

What you bring with you...you are expected to take with you.


Understood, and I wasn't complaining. I was just pointing out that the conversation should not be centered around food because that's not the only thing that goes in the trash.

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I think it's curious that the site implies trash cans are for food. I for one don't eat in the PATH stations/trains since it's not allowed, but on more than one occasion I've had paper, magazines, random stuff that I needed to dispose of.

What you bring with you...you are expected to take with you.

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I think it's curious that the site implies trash cans are for food. I for one don't eat in the PATH stations/trains since it's not allowed, but on more than one occasion I've had paper, magazines, random stuff that I needed to dispose of.

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Pretty sure the cans were removed after 911 as a security measure.

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How about bathrooms in PATH stations, or is that too much to ask?

It is yes, they attract every bum in the city although they have one at JSQ because it is a PATH facility. Just like they had one at the WTC prior to 9-11.

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Garbage cans act as reservoirs for decedent materials. Hasn't 9-11 taught us anything ? Plus PATH has a contracted cleaning company to constantly keep the stations tidy.

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How about bathrooms in PATH stations, or is that too much to ask?

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The cans should be at every PATH station and every high usage bus stop hub, light-rail platform (which they are) and taxi rank hub - they could include ash trays fitted to the cans as many taxi drivers seem to smoke; gives them a chance to smoke outside their cars while they wait for customers and also customers waiting for taxi's.

They should also have cans at high use multiple bike racks ... and a few more in our parks wouldn't hurt either!

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I see plenty of garbage on the path. Bring back the cans!

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without cans, the PATH trains and stations are so much cleaner than the MTA. why fix the one thing that ain't broke?

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Newspapers? Or is that so last century?

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There are garbage cans outside the station. Since the PATH forbids eating food, i suppose it doesn't make sense to encourage it.

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