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Strange Snacks of the World -- Cracker Nuts

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Robert Sietsema
January 27, 2009

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Everyone has heard of Beer Nuts (redskin roasted peanuts) and corn nuts (roasted or deep-fried kernels), but what about cracker nuts?

I stumbled on these tandem products--manufactured by Food Industries, Inc. in Manila under the Nagarya label--in a Philippine grocery on West Side Avenue in Jersey City, on a stretch south of Communipaw Avenue that contains perhaps a dozen Filipino restaurants, some of them quite good.

The product consists of a peanut coated in wheat-flour dough and deep fried. In the adobo version, the crunchy coating is pale and slightly spicy, named after a vinegary stew that, known as chicken adobo, constitutes the national dish of the Philippines. The original recipe came from Mexico, through which the Philippine colony was administered in the era of Spanish colonialism. Needless to say, the Filipinos have adapted it extensively, adding vinegar and soy sauce, among other things.

The garlic flavor tastes a little sweeter, and is very garlicky, with a slight afterburn. An entire bag of either weighs in at 900 colories, but then this isn't supposed to be diet food.

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Above, a garlic cracker nut shown whole and in cross section. Below, the adobo version, intact and exloded. photo credit: Fork in the Road Institute for the Study of Snack Foods

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Voice's Best of 2008

Best Outer Borough You Can Still Afford
Downtown Jersey City


You can still afford it, but just barely. As we write, luxury condos are sprouting up like mushrooms (not the magical kind) in Downtown Jersey City, but in their shadows are rows of brownstones, skyline views, a massive state park, and some diverse and delish grub. Transportation to Lower Manhattan takes eight minutes and costs less than the subway. And even if rent prices are creeping up into Park Slope range, one thing Jersey City has that the New York City boroughs don?t is a decent supermarket like the ones you remember from back home in Bumblefuck. Join the frequent shopper club and, come Thanksgiving, you?ll be thanking us for that free 16-pound turkey in your freezer.

==============================================

It?s Greek to Me
194 Newark Avenue, Jersey City, New Jersey, 201-222-0844

For the meaty fare of the Greek mainland, check out It?s Greek to Me, a Jersey chain with an annoying name that offers killer zucchini fritters called kolokithokeftedes.

==============================================

Philippine Bread House
530 Newark Ave.
Jersey City, NJ
201-659-1753

If you love white bread, you?ll love the soft rolls called pan de sal at Philippine Bread House, where a steam table also presents savory stews and roasts, and every other baked good contains eye-searing purple yam.

==============================================

Dosa Hut
777 Newark Avenue,
Jersey City, New Jersey,
201-420-6660

Sure, we love the dosas on Newark Avenue in Jersey City?but we love the upma even more. You can get this gussied-up cream of wheat, studded with pistachios, black-mustard seeds, and mellow cardamom, at Dosa Hut. And it?s not just for breakfast anymore!

==============================================

Suez Canal
117 Tonnele Avenue,
Jersey City, NJ
201-333-5305

Jersey City?s Alexandrian fish places have become legendary. The best is Suez Canal, where the modest premises belie some of the freshest locally caught fish around, rubbed with whole-wheat flour and charcoal-grilled?peel and discard the skin to reveal the smoky flesh.

==============================================

"Wildest Weenies" --
Boulevard Drinks
48 Journal Square
Jersey City, New Jersey NY
201-656-1855

Jersey shouldn't be called the Garden State, it should be re-dubbed the Hot Dog State. From the ripped glory of a Rutt's Hut frank, to the buttermilk-sided wonder of a Hot Dog Johnny's dog, the state excels in wild weenies. Our own nearest outpost is Journal Square's ancient Boulevard Drinks. What a civilized name, calling up to the imagination, maybe, a Paris landmark! Boulevard's only solid offering is a frank festooned, according to the sign, with chili, onions, and cheese. You'll quickly discover, though, that both the chili and the onions have been cooked down into a single delicious substance.

========================================

"Least Horrible Franchise" --
FATBURGER
286 Washington Street
Downtown Jersey City
201-332-2244

I hope you won't hold it against me, but I'm fond of FATBURGER, the California chain that manages to incorporate maximum grease and salt into everything. Most compelling are the gloppy third-of-a-pound burgers; thick, thick milk shakes made from actual ice cream; and the sweet brown onion rings.

==========================================

Casa Dante
737 Newark Avenue, Jersey City
NY 07306
201-795-2750

Though we were tempted to treat the 13th-century poet to a truly hellish meal at one of Frank Bruni's favorite places to thank him (Dante, not Bruni) for mapping hell in The Divine Comedy, our better side won out, and so we decided to take him to his namesake restaurant, Casa Dante in Jersey City, where we'll regale him with Italian-American fare. The use of prosciutto in the superb linguine with filetto de pomadoro sauce may astonish him, since prosciutto is never used in sauces where he comes from.

==============================================

Freshest fish in the City
Morgan Seafood Restaurant
2801 Kennedy Boulevard
Jersey City NJ, 201-792-2400

It used to be that "Go to the Greeks" was the best advice for someone seeking the freshest, unfussiest seafood, and we can remember many splendid Astorian meals of grilled whole fish with a just a squeeze of lemon, a handful of fries, and a feta-planked salad. But let us turn now to the Egyptians of Alexandria, who have an even sparer fish cuisine, based on grilled whole fish and fried fillets, served elegantly with a sauce of herbed tahini. Morgan Seafood (named after the pirate Henry Morgan?) is the top spot, where your fish choice is often limited to porgy, sea bass, mullet, and whiting.

==============================================

Ibby's Falafel
303 Grove St.
Jersey City, NJ 07302
201-432-2400

I'm afraid this humble Middle Eastern caf? puts our own Mamoun's to shame, serving exceptionally fresh-tasting mezze, whipping up the lightest baba ghanoush on the planet, and twirling an amazing shawarma, which shatters into salty, smoky fragments as it's heaped over rice. A further specialty is the pastries, which you'll find arranged on top of the refrigerator case.


==================================

Sri Ganesh's Dosa House
809 Newark Ave.
Jersey City, NJ 07306
201-222-3883

While most southern Indian spots offer only a handful of dosas, at Sri Ganesh's?named after the handsome Hindu elephant god?the roster runs to 66. That means you can freak out and order pessaratu, its wrapper turned verdant green with herbs, or spring dosa, filled with saut?ed onions and peppers but enfolding zero potatoes. Another strong point is the porridges, including upma (cream of wheat studded with toasted cashews) and pongal (lentils and mung beans with pungent spices). The accompanying coconut and peanut chutneys are made from scratch, and the free sambar is all you can eat.

=======================================

Dosa Hut
777 Newark Ave.
Jersey City, NJ 07306
201-420-6660

Not to be confused with establishments featuring various spellings of the same name, Jersey's Dosa Hut is a yellow-hued greasy spoon with cheap, excellent, and strictly vegetarian South Indian fare. The list of 30 different dosas makes for interesting reading, but the butter masala dosa is a can't-lose choice. Unusual dishes abound, including a quartered and deep-fried rendition of iddly dumplings, and a cold rice pudding called curd rice. Flavored with curry leaves, it's sour instead of sweet.

==============================================

Taquer?a Downtown
236 Grove St.
Jersey City, NJ 07302
201-333-3220

An antique corner bar has been transformed into a comfy Mexican taquer?a with a rather quirky menu, from which guacamole, fajitas, nachos, and burritos have been banished from the menu, and reviled as "not authentic." Never mind, the red or green enchiladas are well made and not badly priced, the tasty tacos served on a pair of soft corn tortillas, and the soup of the day (today, chicken loaded with vegetables) a great light meal. Though the food is made with the freshest ingredients, it tends to be bland, with virtually no chiles. Authentic? I think not!

==============================================

Patel Snacks
785 Newark Ave.
Jersey City, NJ
( Note: The Village Voice thinks it is in Linden)
201-714-9676

This ancient, strictly vegetarian snack shop with seating specializes in Gujarati and Punjabi tapas, which often take the form of chats: spoonable accumulations of fritters, crunchies, and sauces, one of which may be yogurt. Among Gujarati snacks are dokla, spongy yellow cakes shotgunned with black mustard seeds and glistening green chiles; and kachori, pillow-size fritters stuffed with green peas and served with yogurt and fried noodles. Gujarati snacks can be turned into a vegetarian hamburger (pav) by being placed in a bun. Punjabi snacks include samosas and various bread and curried chickpea combinations. Wow! Caution: spicy.

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Yea, one of the great things about living in JC is that one does not pay the NYC income tax of about 4%. After the credit for NY state taxes, the NJ state taxes are minimal. Cheap software like TurboTax will eliminate most of the hassle of two state tax returns. Given all this, it mystifies me why people with middle class jobs live in much crappier but not cheaper 'hoods in NYC than JC. Maybe it is a bunch of post college transplants who want to say that they live in NYC.

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Jersey City ISN'T an "outer borough.

It's a WHOLE OTHER STATE! If you live here and work in NYC you HAVE TO pay NJ state tax.


While you do have to pay NJ state tax, a big plus of JC is you don't have to pay NYC income tax (which is pretty big, on top of NY state tax.)



Actually, you only have to pay NJ state taxes on income you earned in NJ (eg interest, capital gains). If you work in NY, you pay NY state taxes and get credit for it in NJ. So you are NOT double taxed by NY and NJ. As mentioned above, you also don't have to pay NY city taxes if you live in JC. The annoying thing is having to file both NY and NJ taxes.


If you've been paying both NY and NJ state taxes, you should get an accountant to clear that up.

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Rents better start coming down, lots of people getting axed and are attending NYU now....

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[b][size=x-large]BTW - Hoboken only got one award this year and it was for "Fiore House of Quality" a Vietnamese Restaurant - and I think Nha Trang on Newark Avenue is better.


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Fiore's is an Italian deli on Adams and 5th and it has the BEST lunch specials, fresh mozz and italian sausages, it is not a vietnamese restaurant.

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Better yet -- I will put it all here, in one place:

Voice's Best of 2008

Best Outer Borough You Can Still Afford
Downtown Jersey City


You can still afford it, but just barely. As we write, luxury condos are sprouting up like mushrooms (not the magical kind) in Downtown Jersey City, but in their shadows are rows of brownstones, skyline views, a massive state park, and some diverse and delish grub. Transportation to Lower Manhattan takes eight minutes and costs less than the subway. And even if rent prices are creeping up into Park Slope range, one thing Jersey City has that the New York City boroughs don?t is a decent supermarket like the ones you remember from back home in Bumblefuck. Join the frequent shopper club and, come Thanksgiving, you?ll be thanking us for that free 16-pound turkey in your freezer.

==============================================

It?s Greek to Me
194 Newark Avenue, Jersey City, New Jersey, 201-222-0844

For the meaty fare of the Greek mainland, check out It?s Greek to Me, a Jersey chain with an annoying name that offers killer zucchini fritters called kolokithokeftedes.

==============================================

Philippine Bread House
530 Newark Ave.
Jersey City, NJ
201-659-1753

If you love white bread, you?ll love the soft rolls called pan de sal at Philippine Bread House, where a steam table also presents savory stews and roasts, and every other baked good contains eye-searing purple yam.

==============================================

Dosa Hut
777 Newark Avenue,
Jersey City, New Jersey,
201-420-6660

Sure, we love the dosas on Newark Avenue in Jersey City?but we love the upma even more. You can get this gussied-up cream of wheat, studded with pistachios, black-mustard seeds, and mellow cardamom, at Dosa Hut. And it?s not just for breakfast anymore!

==============================================

Suez Canal
117 Tonnele Avenue,
Jersey City, NJ
201-333-5305

Jersey City?s Alexandrian fish places have become legendary. The best is Suez Canal, where the modest premises belie some of the freshest locally caught fish around, rubbed with whole-wheat flour and charcoal-grilled?peel and discard the skin to reveal the smoky flesh.

==============================================

"Wildest Weenies" --
Boulevard Drinks
48 Journal Square
Jersey City, New Jersey NY
201-656-1855

Jersey shouldn't be called the Garden State, it should be re-dubbed the Hot Dog State. From the ripped glory of a Rutt's Hut frank, to the buttermilk-sided wonder of a Hot Dog Johnny's dog, the state excels in wild weenies. Our own nearest outpost is Journal Square's ancient Boulevard Drinks. What a civilized name, calling up to the imagination, maybe, a Paris landmark! Boulevard's only solid offering is a frank festooned, according to the sign, with chili, onions, and cheese. You'll quickly discover, though, that both the chili and the onions have been cooked down into a single delicious substance.

========================================

"Least Horrible Franchise" --
FATBURGER
286 Washington Street
Downtown Jersey City
201-332-2244

I hope you won't hold it against me, but I'm fond of FATBURGER, the California chain that manages to incorporate maximum grease and salt into everything. Most compelling are the gloppy third-of-a-pound burgers; thick, thick milk shakes made from actual ice cream; and the sweet brown onion rings.

==========================================

Casa Dante
737 Newark Avenue, Jersey City
NY 07306
201-795-2750

Though we were tempted to treat the 13th-century poet to a truly hellish meal at one of Frank Bruni's favorite places to thank him (Dante, not Bruni) for mapping hell in The Divine Comedy, our better side won out, and so we decided to take him to his namesake restaurant, Casa Dante in Jersey City, where we'll regale him with Italian-American fare. The use of prosciutto in the superb linguine with filetto de pomadoro sauce may astonish him, since prosciutto is never used in sauces where he comes from.

==============================================

Freshest fish in the City
Morgan Seafood Restaurant
2801 Kennedy Boulevard
Jersey City NJ, 201-792-2400

It used to be that "Go to the Greeks" was the best advice for someone seeking the freshest, unfussiest seafood, and we can remember many splendid Astorian meals of grilled whole fish with a just a squeeze of lemon, a handful of fries, and a feta-planked salad. But let us turn now to the Egyptians of Alexandria, who have an even sparer fish cuisine, based on grilled whole fish and fried fillets, served elegantly with a sauce of herbed tahini. Morgan Seafood (named after the pirate Henry Morgan?) is the top spot, where your fish choice is often limited to porgy, sea bass, mullet, and whiting.

==============================================

Ibby's Falafel
303 Grove St.
Jersey City, NJ 07302
201-432-2400

I'm afraid this humble Middle Eastern caf? puts our own Mamoun's to shame, serving exceptionally fresh-tasting mezze, whipping up the lightest baba ghanoush on the planet, and twirling an amazing shawarma, which shatters into salty, smoky fragments as it's heaped over rice. A further specialty is the pastries, which you'll find arranged on top of the refrigerator case.


==================================

Sri Ganesh's Dosa House
809 Newark Ave.
Jersey City, NJ 07306
201-222-3883

While most southern Indian spots offer only a handful of dosas, at Sri Ganesh's?named after the handsome Hindu elephant god?the roster runs to 66. That means you can freak out and order pessaratu, its wrapper turned verdant green with herbs, or spring dosa, filled with saut?ed onions and peppers but enfolding zero potatoes. Another strong point is the porridges, including upma (cream of wheat studded with toasted cashews) and pongal (lentils and mung beans with pungent spices). The accompanying coconut and peanut chutneys are made from scratch, and the free sambar is all you can eat.

=======================================

Dosa Hut
777 Newark Ave.
Jersey City, NJ 07306
201-420-6660

Not to be confused with establishments featuring various spellings of the same name, Jersey's Dosa Hut is a yellow-hued greasy spoon with cheap, excellent, and strictly vegetarian South Indian fare. The list of 30 different dosas makes for interesting reading, but the butter masala dosa is a can't-lose choice. Unusual dishes abound, including a quartered and deep-fried rendition of iddly dumplings, and a cold rice pudding called curd rice. Flavored with curry leaves, it's sour instead of sweet.

==============================================

Taquer?a Downtown
236 Grove St.
Jersey City, NJ 07302
201-333-3220

An antique corner bar has been transformed into a comfy Mexican taquer?a with a rather quirky menu, from which guacamole, fajitas, nachos, and burritos have been banished from the menu, and reviled as "not authentic." Never mind, the red or green enchiladas are well made and not badly priced, the tasty tacos served on a pair of soft corn tortillas, and the soup of the day (today, chicken loaded with vegetables) a great light meal. Though the food is made with the freshest ingredients, it tends to be bland, with virtually no chiles. Authentic? I think not!

==============================================

Patel Snacks
785 Newark Ave.
Jersey City, NJ
( Note: The Village Voice thinks it is in Linden)
201-714-9676

This ancient, strictly vegetarian snack shop with seating specializes in Gujarati and Punjabi tapas, which often take the form of chats: spoonable accumulations of fritters, crunchies, and sauces, one of which may be yogurt. Among Gujarati snacks are dokla, spongy yellow cakes shotgunned with black mustard seeds and glistening green chiles; and kachori, pillow-size fritters stuffed with green peas and served with yogurt and fried noodles. Gujarati snacks can be turned into a vegetarian hamburger (pav) by being placed in a bun. Punjabi snacks include samosas and various bread and curried chickpea combinations. Wow! Caution: spicy.

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A few more from the Village Voices' 2008 Best of...

Taquer?a Downtown

236 Grove St.
Jersey City, NJ 07302
201-333-3220

An antique corner bar has been transformed into a comfy Mexican taquer?a with a rather quirky menu, from which guacamole, fajitas, nachos, and burritos have been banished from the menu, and reviled as "not authentic." Never mind, the red or green enchiladas are well made and not badly priced, the tasty tacos served on a pair of soft corn tortillas, and the soup of the day (today, chicken loaded with vegetables) a great light meal. Though the food is made with the freshest ingredients, it tends to be bland, with virtually no chiles. Authentic? I think not!

========================

Patel Snacks
785 Newark Ave.
Jersey City, NJ
( Note: The Village Voice thinks it is in Linden)
201-714-9676

This ancient, strictly vegetarian snack shop with seating specializes in Gujarati and Punjabi tapas, which often take the form of chats: spoonable accumulations of fritters, crunchies, and sauces, one of which may be yogurt. Among Gujarati snacks are dokla, spongy yellow cakes shotgunned with black mustard seeds and glistening green chiles; and kachori, pillow-size fritters stuffed with green peas and served with yogurt and fried noodles. Gujarati snacks can be turned into a vegetarian hamburger (pav) by being placed in a bun. Punjabi snacks include samosas and various bread and curried chickpea combinations. Wow! Caution: spicy.

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Articles like this scare me, because the last thing we all want is for people looking to move to brooklyn to settle in JC instead.

Someone needs to write an article explaining that we live in JC because it's NOT brooklyn.


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...and the "Least Horrible Franchise"

FATBURGER

286 Washington Street
Downtown Jersey City
201-332-2244

I hope you won't hold it against me, but I'm fond of FATBURGER, the California chain that manages to incorporate maximum grease and salt into everything. Most compelling are the gloppy third-of-a-pound burgers; thick, thick milk shakes made from actual ice cream; and the sweet brown onion rings.

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mmhhmmmm I waffle on whether this is truly the least horrible franchise, because as you probably know, there is a *Checkers* in this town. Both are unreal... If I could have the burger from Fatburger w/ the Fries & Milkshake from Checkers I'd might never eat anywhere else (I might also die if that's all I ate, but whatever).

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I've never eaten there but hear the fish is pretty fresh.

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Has anyone eaten here?
What is it like?
How's the food?

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Freshest fish in the City

Morgan Seafood Restaurant

2801 Kennedy Boulevard
Jersey City NJ, 201-792-2400

It used to be that "Go to the Greeks" was the best advice for someone seeking the freshest, unfussiest seafood, and we can remember many splendid Astorian meals of grilled whole fish with a just a squeeze of lemon, a handful of fries, and a feta-planked salad. But let us turn now to the Egyptians of Alexandria, who have an even sparer fish cuisine, based on grilled whole fish and fried fillets, served elegantly with a sauce of herbed tahini. Morgan Seafood (named after the pirate Henry Morgan?) is the top spot, where your fish choice is often limited to porgy, sea bass, mullet, and whiting. 2801 Kennedy Boulevard, Jersey City, New Jersey, 201-792-2400



I've never eaten there but hear the fish is pretty fresh.

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Has anyone eaten here?
What is it like?
How's the food?

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Freshest fish in the City

Morgan Seafood Restaurant

2801 Kennedy Boulevard
Jersey City NJ, 201-792-2400

It used to be that "Go to the Greeks" was the best advice for someone seeking the freshest, unfussiest seafood, and we can remember many splendid Astorian meals of grilled whole fish with a just a squeeze of lemon, a handful of fries, and a feta-planked salad. But let us turn now to the Egyptians of Alexandria, who have an even sparer fish cuisine, based on grilled whole fish and fried fillets, served elegantly with a sauce of herbed tahini. Morgan Seafood (named after the pirate Henry Morgan?) is the top spot, where your fish choice is often limited to porgy, sea bass, mullet, and whiting. 2801 Kennedy Boulevard, Jersey City, New Jersey, 201-792-2400


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Jersey City ISN'T an "outer borough.

It's a WHOLE OTHER STATE! If you live here and work in NYC you HAVE TO pay NJ state tax.


While you do have to pay NJ state tax, a big plus of JC is you don't have to pay NYC income tax (which is pretty big, on top of NY state tax.)



Actually, you only have to pay NJ state taxes on income you earned in NJ (eg interest, capital gains). If you work in NY, you pay NY state taxes and get credit for it in NJ. So you are NOT double taxed by NY and NJ. As mentioned above, you also don't have to pay NY city taxes if you live in JC. The annoying thing is having to file both NY and NJ taxes.


If you've been paying both NY and NJ state taxes, you should get an accountant to clear that up.

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Nothing is worse than some dude who grew up in ohio and moves to brooklyn in his mid 20s and then "Hates Jersey".

Articles like this scare me, because the last thing we all want is for people looking to move to brooklyn to settle in JC instead.

Someone needs to write an article explaining that we live in JC because it's NOT brooklyn.

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i am here to resolve/help you whiners resolve your issues. i am not presenting problems, rather presenting solutions. i am not whining; simply pointing out YOU whiners.

as for the BK comment, well, that was just corny.

DOWNTOWN JC STAND TALL!!!

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yeah, I know - the jokes on you - don't you get it?? By the way, STOP WHINING!!!

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like i said, i apologize for my bluntness. touche, my friend. my name is aoao, not ahole. hahaha.

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WOW!! aoaoa is putting people in their place today. That's a lot of vitriol!! Yeah, Brooklyn and WB sucks, but the delivery man from WF doesn't. Do us a favor and change your name to ahole, not aoao.

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that one's for you margiehague. shame you use that handle. margaret would not have approved of that comment.

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brooklyn?!?! i can't believe you said that!! many of the long-time residents are trying their best to stay away from that set of people. brooklyn sucks! williamsburg sucks! and we all know it. please do not compare bk to jc.

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Jersey City ISN'T an "outer borough.

It's a WHOLE OTHER STATE! If you live here and work in NYC you HAVE TO pay NJ state tax.


While you do have to pay NJ state tax, a big plus of JC is you don't have to pay NYC income tax (which is pretty big, on top of NY state tax.)

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I just hate when it's called "NYC's SIXTH borough."


I take offense.

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I agree with skywarp. JC is very much like Brooklyn: a little Park Slope, a lot Bed-Stuy, some Downtown, a little Greenpoint...

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Eleanor, I would disagree. I think JC has more in common with NYC than one of NYC's own boroughs. Heck, Jersey even has more of a claim to the Giants than NYC does.

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Jersey City ISN'T an "outer borough.

It's a WHOLE OTHER STATE! If you live here and work in NYC you HAVE TO pay NJ state tax.

I just hate when it's called "NYC's SIXTH borough." It's asinine and completely misleading. JC has very little to do with NYC, other than its proximity and the number of commuters into NYC.

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This thread is like the sound of one hand clapping.

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Sure Downtown Jersey City, but when will the Voice talk nicely about Chicago?

Michael Musto will remain banned!

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OK, here are still a few more -- nice to see the Village Voice really embrace Jersey City!

Ibby's Falafel

303 Grove St.
Jersey City, NJ 07302
201-432-2400
I'm afraid this humble Middle Eastern caf? puts our own Mamoun's to shame, serving exceptionally fresh-tasting mezze, whipping up the lightest baba ghanoush on the planet, and twirling an amazing shawarma, which shatters into salty, smoky fragments as it's heaped over rice. A further specialty is the pastries, which you'll find arranged on top of the refrigerator case.

http://www.villagevoice.com/locations/ibbys-falafel-147403/

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Sri Ganesh's Dosa House
809 Newark Ave.
Jersey City, NJ 07306
201-222-3883

While most southern Indian spots offer only a handful of dosas, at Sri Ganesh's?named after the handsome Hindu elephant god?the roster runs to 66. That means you can freak out and order pessaratu, its wrapper turned verdant green with herbs, or spring dosa, filled with saut?ed onions and peppers but enfolding zero potatoes. Another strong point is the porridges, including upma (cream of wheat studded with toasted cashews) and pongal (lentils and mung beans with pungent spices). The accompanying coconut and peanut chutneys are made from scratch, and the free sambar is all you can eat.

http://www.villagevoice.com/locations ... aneshs-dosa-house-152617/

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This is a repeat but they have a photo -- and they are sitting at our favorite table.

Dosa Hut

777 Newark Ave.
Jersey City, NJ 07306
201-420-6660

Not to be confused with establishments featuring various spellings of the same name, Jersey's Dosa Hut is a yellow-hued greasy spoon with cheap, excellent, and strictly vegetarian South Indian fare. The list of 30 different dosas makes for interesting reading, but the butter masala dosa is a can't-lose choice. Unusual dishes abound, including a quartered and deep-fried rendition of iddly dumplings, and a cold rice pudding called curd rice. Flavored with curry leaves, it's sour instead of sweet.

http://www.villagevoice.com/locations/dosa-hut-150850/

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Wait there is even more Jersey City restaurants on the Voice's Best of 2008 List:

Freshest fish in the City

Morgan Seafood Restaurant

2801 Kennedy Boulevard
Jersey City NJ, 201-792-2400

It used to be that "Go to the Greeks" was the best advice for someone seeking the freshest, unfussiest seafood, and we can remember many splendid Astorian meals of grilled whole fish with a just a squeeze of lemon, a handful of fries, and a feta-planked salad. But let us turn now to the Egyptians of Alexandria, who have an even sparer fish cuisine, based on grilled whole fish and fried fillets, served elegantly with a sauce of herbed tahini. Morgan Seafood (named after the pirate Henry Morgan?) is the top spot, where your fish choice is often limited to porgy, sea bass, mullet, and whiting. 2801 Kennedy Boulevard, Jersey City, New Jersey, 201-792-2400

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BTW - Hoboken only got one award this year and it was for "Fiore House of Quality" a Vietnamese Restaurant - and I think Nha Trang on Newark Avenue is better.

JC have come a long way since 2005, when the Voice called Jersey City the: "Best Faux Outer Borough"

JERSEY CITY

Jersey City NJ

Not far over the Hudson lies a fantasy-land where the subway only costs $1.75, sales tax is 3 percent, and a studio apartment in a decent neighborhood can be had for less than a grand. JERSEY CITY isn't a wasteland anymore. The ethnic diversity has Queens beat; even its far-flung Journal Square PATH station is only 20 minutes from downtown Manhattan; and it doesn't smell like toxic waste (that's Newark). You can also buy two homes with backyards and parking for the price of a co-op in the city. Don't be a snob; cross the river and, finally, live in a place where stretching your arms doesn't mean smacking two walls.

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...also we have the "Wildest Weenies"

Boulevard Drinks

48 Journal Square
Jersey City, New Jersey NY
201-656-1855

Jersey shouldn't be called the Garden State, it should be re-dubbed the Hot Dog State. From the ripped glory of a Rutt's Hut frank, to the buttermilk-sided wonder of a Hot Dog Johnny's dog, the state excels in wild weenies. Our own nearest outpost is Journal Square's ancient Boulevard Drinks. What a civilized name, calling up to the imagination, maybe, a Paris landmark! Boulevard's only solid offering is a frank festooned, according to the sign, with chili, onions, and cheese. You'll quickly discover, though, that both the chili and the onions have been cooked down into a single delicious substance.

http://www.villagevoice.com/bestof/20 ... d/wildest-weenies-492962/

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...and the "Least Horrible Franchise"

FATBURGER

286 Washington Street
Downtown Jersey City
201-332-2244

I hope you won't hold it against me, but I'm fond of FATBURGER, the California chain that manages to incorporate maximum grease and salt into everything. Most compelling are the gloppy third-of-a-pound burgers; thick, thick milk shakes made from actual ice cream; and the sweet brown onion rings.

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Oh and from last year - in case you missed it:

Casa Dante

737 Newark Avenue, Jersey City
NY 07306
201-795-2750

Though we were tempted to treat the 13th-century poet to a truly hellish meal at one of Frank Bruni's favorite places to thank him (Dante, not Bruni) for mapping hell in The Divine Comedy, our better side won out, and so we decided to take him to his namesake restaurant, Casa Dante in Jersey City, where we'll regale him with Italian-American fare. The use of prosciutto in the superb linguine with filetto de pomadoro sauce may astonish him, since prosciutto is never used in sauces where he comes from.

Lots to check out:
http://www.villagevoice.com/bestOf/search?keywords=jersey+city

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Best Outer Borough You Can Still Afford
Downtown Jersey City


You can still afford it, but just barely. As we write, luxury condos are sprouting up like mushrooms (not the magical kind) in Downtown Jersey City, but in their shadows are rows of brownstones, skyline views, a massive state park, and some diverse and delish grub. Transportation to Lower Manhattan takes eight minutes and costs less than the subway. And even if rent prices are creeping up into Park Slope range, one thing Jersey City has that the New York City boroughs don’t is a decent supermarket like the ones you remember from back home in Bumblefuck. Join the frequent shopper club and, come Thanksgiving, you’ll be thanking us for that free 16-pound turkey in your freezer.

Click for Voice's Best of 2008

We also have a lot of restaurants on the list - Three on Newark Avenue!

http://www.villagevoice.com/bestof/2008/award/greek-690832
http://www.villagevoice.com/locations ... ippine-bread-house-701432
http://www.villagevoice.com/bestof/2008/award/up-with-upma-691312


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It’s Greek to Me
194 Newark Avenue, Jersey City, New Jersey, 201-222-0844

For the meaty fare of the Greek mainland, check out It’s Greek to Me, a Jersey chain with an annoying name that offers killer zucchini fritters called kolokithokeftedes.

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Philippine Bread House
530 Newark Ave.
Jersey City, NJ
201-659-1753

If you love white bread, you’ll love the soft rolls called pan de sal at Philippine Bread House, where a steam table also presents savory stews and roasts, and every other baked good contains eye-searing purple yam.

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Dosa Hut
777 Newark Avenue, Jersey City, New Jersey, 201-420-6660

Sure, we love the dosas on Newark Avenue in Jersey City—but we love the upma even more. You can get this gussied-up cream of wheat, studded with pistachios, black-mustard seeds, and mellow cardamom, at Dosa Hut. And it’s not just for breakfast anymore!

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Suez Canal
117 Tonnele Avenue,
Jersey City, NJ
201-333-5305

Jersey City’s Alexandrian fish places have become legendary. The best is Suez Canal, where the modest premises belie some of the freshest locally caught fish around, rubbed with whole-wheat flour and charcoal-grilled—peel and discard the skin to reveal the smoky flesh.

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