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I'm sitting on the shuttle from WTC, and we are crawwwwwwling up 6th ave at a snail's pace.

The first stop isn't until 4th street, so here's me missing that movie date.

It's gonna be a long 4 month stretch for PATH riders, but a lucrative one for the MTA, as I don't see many of us doing this more than once.



It's going to be more than 4 months. The article announcing the closures said that more are planned for 2017.

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I'm sitting on the shuttle from WTC, and we are crawwwwwwling up 6th ave at a snail's pace.

The first stop isn't until 4th street, so here's me missing that movie date.

It's gonna be a long 4 month stretch for PATH riders, but a lucrative one for the MTA, as I don't see many of us doing this more than once.


Have you ever heard of the New York City Subway?


Yes, I know it sucks that you'll have to pay an extra fare, but for getting around New York City, nothing beats the Subway.

And give the PA a break on this one. Over a hundred years ago, it was decided to build a two track system throughout what is now PATH. They are trying to perform a major upgrade, there is no "good time" to do this, so they picked the least bad "bad time." Grow up and help yourself.


did you not notice the last line of the post before you got out your pulpit and started pounding on it?

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I'm sitting on the shuttle from WTC, and we are crawwwwwwling up 6th ave at a snail's pace.

The first stop isn't until 4th street, so here's me missing that movie date.

It's gonna be a long 4 month stretch for PATH riders, but a lucrative one for the MTA, as I don't see many of us doing this more than once.


Have you ever heard of the New York City Subway?


Yes, I know it sucks that you'll have to pay an extra fare, but for getting around New York City, nothing beats the Subway.

And give the PA a break on this one. Over a hundred years ago, it was decided to build a two track system throughout what is now PATH. They are trying to perform a major upgrade, there is no "good time" to do this, so they picked the least bad "bad time." Grow up and help yourself.

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I'm sitting on the shuttle from WTC, and we are crawwwwwwling up 6th ave at a snail's pace.

The first stop isn't until 4th street, so here's me missing that movie date.

It's gonna be a long 4 month stretch for PATH riders, but a lucrative one for the MTA, as I don't see many of us doing this more than once.



There was a long line at Church St waiting in the hot sun for the next bus, there aren't enough buses and their timing is off.
Going downtown first bus passed the 14th St stop, it was full, waited a long time for the second bus which was almost full.
This will be a long 4 months.

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I'm sitting on the shuttle from WTC, and we are crawwwwwwling up 6th ave at a snail's pace.

The first stop isn't until 4th street, so here's me missing that movie date.

It's gonna be a long 4 month stretch for PATH riders, but a lucrative one for the MTA, as I don't see many of us doing this more than once.



Why would you think the PA will complete this project by the stated deadline? Call me jaded, but I am very much inclined to believe this will continue well into 2017. But, I guess time will tell.

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perhaps one of those frequent street festivals on 6th ave between 14th and 23rd is causing traffic slowdown....

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I'm sitting on the shuttle from WTC, and we are crawwwwwwling up 6th ave at a snail's pace.

The first stop isn't until 4th street, so here's me missing that movie date.

It's gonna be a long 4 month stretch for PATH riders, but a lucrative one for the MTA, as I don't see many of us doing this more than once.


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hopefully ya don't need to go into the city over the weekend...


You realize the WTC line is open, right?

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hopefully ya don't need to go into the city over the weekend...

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F'ing brilliant from the PA again:

PATH will not run extra WTC-NWK trains on weekends. WTC-NWK trains will continue to operate on their normal 20-minute weekend schedule.

However, there will be a “new” WTC-JSQ line that will run every 12 minutes. This line does not show up on their new map or brochures and they refer to it as an “unscheduled” line to accommodate ridership on an as needed basis. (They mention this around the 15-minute mark in the first video. You’ll want to crank up your speakers as the audio is very low).

A WTC-Hoboken line will run every 12 minutes as well as a new JSQ-Hoboken line. Basically, if you live in Hoboken, you’re in really good shape.


It will probably be miserable for the first weekend, with tremendously overcrowded trains, but then this "as needed" line will run more frequently so later weeks won't be so bad.

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Port Authority to temporarily suspend weekend PATH service to 33rd Street

Traveling to and from New York City on the weekends is about to get a lot more complicated.

The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey announced today that weekend PATH service on the 33rd Street line will be suspended starting in early August and continuing into December. The months-long suspension is part of a federally-mandated safety initiative to install a new computerized signal system designed to improve passenger service and safety, the Port Authority said in a statement announcing the news.

Service on the 33rd Street line will be suspended from approximately 12:01 a.m. on Saturdays until 5 a.m. on Mondays. The suspension will continue most weekends into December, with the exception of major holidays, the Port Authority announced.

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... treet_will_be_suspen.html

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F'ing brilliant from the PA again:

PATH will not run extra WTC-NWK trains on weekends. WTC-NWK trains will continue to operate on their normal 20-minute weekend schedule.

However, there will be a “new” WTC-JSQ line that will run every 12 minutes. This line does not show up on their new map or brochures and they refer to it as an “unscheduled” line to accommodate ridership on an as needed basis. (They mention this around the 15-minute mark in the first video. You’ll want to crank up your speakers as the audio is very low).

A WTC-Hoboken line will run every 12 minutes as well as a new JSQ-Hoboken line. Basically, if you live in Hoboken, you’re in really good shape.

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service was altered this weekend - no direct service to Hoboken on the 33rd street line - and once again, passengers on the platform were left in the dark.

no signage. no PA announcements. just the occasional announcement from whichever conductor felt like letting people know.


They could've done a better job, but they had the service change announced on PATH Alerts. Due to their lousy communication, I usually check Path Alerts before I head to the station.

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service was altered this weekend - no direct service to Hoboken on the 33rd street line - and once again, passengers on the platform were left in the dark.

no signage. no PA announcements. just the occasional announcement from whichever conductor felt like letting people know.

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is there an easy connection between PATH and 1 trains, like the one that existed before 9/11?


Not yet, they haven't finished rebuilding the Cortlandt St. station yet. When they do, it should be an easy transfer.

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is there an easy connection between PATH and 1 trains, like the one that existed before 9/11?

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Word. Every time I disembark at WTC I feel like Jonah inside the whale.

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To me it looks like something created by H.R. Giger's brother (if he had one), who happened to be a lot more bright and cheerful than H.R.with his artwork.

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Let's hope we won't have any more weekend WTC PATH signal construction delays...!!



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Ah yes, thank you for refreshing my memory!

Yep, quite a few people expected this to happen when the WTC line was closed.

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Ah yes, thank you for refreshing my memory!

Yep, quite a few people expected this to happen when the WTC line was closed.

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Ah yes, thank you for refreshing my memory!

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I thought they had already closed it for the system upgrades a few years ago. Why are they doing it again???

They closed the WTC line on weekends to reinstall upgraded equipment damaged by Sandy, and to finish the installation of PTC.

They're now closing the other tunnel (33rd St) to install new switching equipment.

The new switches are a federal mandate, and will also let them run more trains.

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I thought they had already closed it for the system upgrades a few years ago. Why are they doing it again???

They closed the WTC line on weekends to reinstall upgraded equipment damaged by Sandy, and to finish the installation of PTC.

They're now closing the other tunnel (33rd St) to install new switching equipment.

The new switches are a federal mandate, and will also let them run more trains.

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Saw on the news this morning that Path service from Newark to 33rd street starting in August through December will be suspended on the weekends to perform work mandated by the Federal government. Newark to WTC and Hoboken to WTC will still operate normal hours on the weekend.

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Subsidized ferry service?

Here's an interesting article:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/new-york- ... ferry-contract-1458175300


Since it's paywalled I didn't read anything but the headline, but I recall from the announcement it was a rather extensive system being proposed. $30m doesn't sound like much in that context. The SI ferry cost NYC DOT $108m to run in 2013, $4.86 per ride.

http://www.silive.com/news/index.ssf/ ... and_ferry_costs_taxp.html

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Subsidized ferry service?

Here's an interesting article:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/new-york- ... ferry-contract-1458175300

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Why can't they allow bike access through the tunnels


Shockingly, for the same reason they don't just throw a pedestrian and bike bridge over the Hudson. Return...on...investment.

Daily one way car tunnel traffic:~45k
Daily bikes over ALL the East river crossings both ways: 15k
Just the Brooklyn Bridge:2500

So, lets assume we can match the Brooklyn Bridge. You propose the PA give up half it's car capacity for a tiny fraction of that traffic on bikes, and you presumably aren't proposing to pay a $12 toll either. Lord I'm tired of this nonsense coming up again and again. If you insists on powering yourself across the river buy a kayak.

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The Path is marketed as Jersey City's biggest asset. The reality is it is the biggest liability. Why can't they allow bike access through the tunnels to compensate with random searches to keep the so called "terrorist" threat at bay.

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The problem is PATH, like so much of mass transit in New Jersey, is hopelessly caught up in the suburban commuter model - daddy with his briefcase going to work and back, and no plans for any other transit modality. Until at least NJ in the orbit of NYC accepts it's part of a 24/7 urban environment, twokhat will never change. We need to get rid of BOTH the current political establishment and PATH/NJT patronage dead wood to affect any changes. Or secede and join NYC.

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the bi-state agency said the improvements will provide PATH riders increased reliability in the future, as well as lay the groundwork for increased passenger capacity.

That's a load of crap, it's safety specific. The work is to prevent a runaway train with a drunk motorman, a response to several commuter train crashes like the Metro North one in the bronx a few years back.

https://www.fra.dot.gov/Page/P0621
In 2008, Congress required railroads install Positive Train Control (PTC) on mainlines that transport any poisonous-inhalation-hazardous (PIH) materials and where regularly scheduled intercity passenger or commuter rail services are provided. PTC uses communication-based/processor-based train control technology that provides a system capable of reliably and functionally preventing train-to-train collisions, overspeed derailments, incursions into established work zone limits, and the movement of a train through a main line switch in the improper position.

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