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PDubs wrote:
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tern wrote:
So your complaint has changed from there being no places to watch American Football, to there being no places meeting your precise requirements at which to watch.

In addition to all the places previously listed, there is:
White Star (2 of them)
Hamilton Inn
Ninth and Coles
Keyhole
Healy's
Greene Hook
Light Horse
Markers
Chile's
Park and Ninth
Lisbon Two

As someone mentioned upthread, how many places can you name where you *can't* watch Giants games?

Robin.

You're missing my point. I want a sports bar that serves food, not a restaurant that serves liquor. Massive difference. JC really doesnt have that right now, so how is there not a need for it?

O'Hara's, Bright Side, PJ Ryans, White Star Bar, Hopscotch, 9th and Coles

Not to mention places like Iron Monkey and Skinner's that have decent bars downstairs. Just off the top of my head.

C'mon man.

OneSkirt wrote:

I'm pretty disgusted with what's happening in dtjc, as someone who's been here for 20 years.

HippieShowgirl wrote:
A bumch of the bars y'all name don't have the Sunday Ticket -- all games -- which true football fans are looking for. I'm torn. I don't want a broboken bar, but i want ALL THE GAMES. Ugh.

EasyGibson wrote:
I think I was very clear in addressing that.

To me it felt like we had a pretty good handle on steering this thing somewhere that both old and new residents were into it. This feels like somebody else's interests are being served for a weekend shitshow that is going to serve suburban kids that come here to get wild on Saturday. That leaves us residents with basically a blank spot on our main street.

Whatever. It's all good.

EasyGibson wrote:
Indoor mini golf would kill!

I'd go broke.

1Republik won't be the end of the world, but like others said, it'll just be a pretty loud and blaring admission that we're doing this thing and there's no going back.
Talk all you want about gentrification and make it sound like, "well you knew this was going to happen!"
Well, kind of, but there's a lot of ways you can go about changing the landscape of a neighborhood. Surely there's a middle ground between cars on cinder blocks and dudes in salmon shorts puking in the middle of the street at 10pm.
A bar like Archer or a restaurant like Roman Nose or a retail store like Kannibal or Word is a great representation of where I thought we were headed and where I had hoped we were going to continue to head.

If given the choice, I would absolutely pick hanging out in a park full of junkies over walking down Washington St. on a weekend. Maybe I'm weird. I don't know, man.

tommyc_37 wrote:
I feel like most of the bars in Downtown Jersey City could be considered sports bars, and most are certainly bars to watch games at, as most have several or more TVs.

The fact that this individual owns 1Republik and Tonic East tells me that we can expect a similar vibe at this location -- lots of TVs, bros, and average bar food.

HippieShowgirl wrote:
A bumch of the bars y'all name don't have the Sunday Ticket -- all games -- which true football fans are looking for. I'm torn. I don't want a broboken bar, but i want ALL THE GAMES. Ugh.

PDubs wrote:
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tern wrote:
So your complaint has changed from there being no places to watch American Football, to there being no places meeting your precise requirements at which to watch.

In addition to all the places previously listed, there is:
White Star (2 of them)
Hamilton Inn
Ninth and Coles
Keyhole
Healy's
Greene Hook
Light Horse
Markers
Chile's
Park and Ninth
Lisbon Two

As someone mentioned upthread, how many places can you name where you *can't* watch Giants games?

Robin.

You're missing my point. I want a sports bar that serves food, not a restaurant that serves liquor. Massive difference. JC really doesnt have that right now, so how is there not a need for it?

tern wrote:
So your complaint has changed from there being no places to watch American Football, to there being no places meeting your precise requirements at which to watch.

In addition to all the places previously listed, there is:
White Star (2 of them)
Hamilton Inn
Ninth and Coles
Keyhole
Healy's
Greene Hook
Light Horse
Markers
Chile's
Park and Ninth
Lisbon Two

As someone mentioned upthread, how many places can you name where you *can't* watch Giants games?

Robin.

dr_nick_riviera wrote:
I think everybody here is hyperventilating a little bit. The same group that bought the other space owns 3 pretty successful bars, 1 Republik just happening to be one of them.

They seem to know what they're doing and we don't know what the concept will be. They'll of course do a study of demographics and what local tastes generally seem to be and cater accordingly. This (probably) does NOT mean loud music and bros are on the way, since even today, that's way out of step for JC. Let's wait and see what the concept is first before getting out the torches and pitchforks.

tern wrote:
So your complaint has changed from there being no places to watch American Football, to there being no places meeting your precise requirements at which to watch.

In addition to all the places previously listed, there is:
White Star (2 of them)
Hamilton Inn
Ninth and Coles
Keyhole
Healy's
Greene Hook
Light Horse
Markers
Chile's
Park and Ninth
Lisbon Two

As someone mentioned upthread, how many places can you name where you *can't* watch Giants games?

Robin.

zimbu1234 wrote:
Look around. Plenty of options right now that no more are really needed.

Luckys
VB3
Hopscotch
Grove Square (coffee shop by the PATH)
PJ Ryan's

Not to mention the larger places with less TVs (Porta, Southhouse).

I also prefer something about more creative. A music hall, A food hall akin to Berg'n as someone mentioned (what carino provisions could have been), or a real BBQ by the pound place (what Hamilton pork should have been).

WhoElseCouldIBe wrote:
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if it doesn't serve enough people in general, the bar will go away. Problem solved.

EasyGibson wrote:
I think I was very clear in addressing that.

To me it felt like we had a pretty good handle on steering this thing somewhere that both old and new residents were into it. This feels like somebody else's interests are being served for a weekend shitshow that is going to serve suburban kids that come here to get wild on Saturday. That leaves us residents with basically a blank spot on our main street.

Whatever. It's all good.

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dr_nick_riviera wrote:
They seem to know what they're doing and we don't know what the concept will be. They'll of course do a study of demographics and what local tastes generally seem to be and cater accordingly. This (probably) does NOT mean loud music and bros are on the way, since even today, that's way out of step for JC. Let's wait and see what the concept is first before getting out the torches and pitchforks.

The flaw with your reasoning is that they'll be targeting DTJC residents at all. Hoboken and DTJC are both now destinations. Look at Hoboken, the age of it's avg resident has gone up quite a bit, but the bars are still full of 20 somethings from out of town. The late unlamented Music Box on 7th, far from the beaten path, had a clientele entirely from out of the neighborhood.

brewster wrote:
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dr_nick_riviera wrote:
They seem to know what they're doing and we don't know what the concept will be. They'll of course do a study of demographics and what local tastes generally seem to be and cater accordingly. This (probably) does NOT mean loud music and bros are on the way, since even today, that's way out of step for JC. Let's wait and see what the concept is first before getting out the torches and pitchforks.

The flaw with your reasoning is that they'll be targeting DTJC residents at all. Hoboken and DTJC are both now destinations. Look at Hoboken, the age of it's avg resident has gone up quite a bit, but the bars are still full of 20 somethings from out of town. The late unlamented Music Box on 7th, far from the beaten path, had a clientele entirely from out of the neighborhood.

dr_nick_riviera wrote:
They seem to know what they're doing and we don't know what the concept will be. They'll of course do a study of demographics and what local tastes generally seem to be and cater accordingly. This (probably) does NOT mean loud music and bros are on the way, since even today, that's way out of step for JC. Let's wait and see what the concept is first before getting out the torches and pitchforks.

ErieStreet4Life wrote:
The neighborhood has made it pretty clear that most new bars are catering to real lowest common denominator types. There's still no music venue (Yes, I know about Monty Hall) really downtown. Do we need another major establishment with 30,000 tv screens and women in tank tops? I say the neighborhood does not.

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tommyc_37 wrote:
This is really lame. That end of Newark Ave is becoming pretty shameful. It brings the exact element seen in Hoboken. It's not a good element.

BTW, why is Republik spelled with a K like that?

Oh come on. That store is gigantic, what else could it really be than a big sports bar/lounge thingy? JC can support places like that *as well as* places like Pet Shop and The Archer.

Agreed it is an unruly space. But why not give me something to do other than sit down and eat shitty bar food while watching a game. Something like the Royal Palms Shuffleboard Club in Gowanus would be packed 7 nights a week.

Or segment/sublease the space and turn it into a food court like Berg'n that allows up-and-coming restaurants a shot at some space without the huge overhead.

If given the choice, I would absolutely pick hanging out in a park full of junkies over walking down Washington St. on a weekend. Maybe I'm weird. I don't know, man.

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JcDevil wrote:
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tommyc_37 wrote:
This is really lame. That end of Newark Ave is becoming pretty shameful. It brings the exact element seen in Hoboken. It's not a good element.

BTW, why is Republik spelled with a K like that?

Oh come on. That store is gigantic, what else could it really be than a big sports bar/lounge thingy? JC can support places like that *as well as* places like Pet Shop and The Archer.

I agree that the size of the pace is problematic, but why does it have to be a bar? I can think of some solutions:

1. Divide the space up into several storefronts.
2. Food halls are all the rage, and immensely popular
3. Large single restaurant

These "mega bars" especially ones with a thousand TVs, attract one type of person, and it's a pretty annoying type of person, I'm sorry.

As somebody said, it's the lowest common denominator. I thought for all these years that Jersey City would take learnings from Hoboken's "night life" and do things to prevent that, but it's happening (already happened, even).

I don't want to make a big deal out of it, or sound overly negative, but it's just kind of depressing, haha.

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ErieStreet4Life wrote:
You are legit buggin.

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JCMan8 wrote:
A crappy eyesore is being shut down and some of you are complaining?

Might want to walk outside and get a better perspective on things, lol. This is only good news for that street.

I have a feeling you are a new arrival. It's far better and safer to dodge "Jersey bros" than it was to navigate the "urban element" that persisted there until recently. Just the truth.

That stretch is already overrun with popped collars lining up behind a rope to get into Porta, so I don't see what difference another one of these places makes. I wouldn't drink there, but I'd say it will be an improvement over Rainbow.

And for the luddites, you've still got National Discount, CH Martin, Sleep Cheap, Fabco Shoes, Super Discount, Jemma Loans and all the other old shitty stores still there for you to bizarrely revere as representing some sort of golden age that once existed in this town, but of course never patronize.

If you're the kind of person who will be sad the day 99 Cent Dreams closes shop, I suggest you try The Heights. It's still 1981 on Central Ave.