19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

radryan03 wrote:
God doesn't have to be one God...

I'd argue that Yvonne's God is a bit different than some other religious fellows who's God doesn't hate or discriminate against other people.

Only contributing the tangent...
I am befuddled by scripturists, esp. those that are women (like Yvonne) and/or are within minority populations. The same scripture and teaching they are using against others were used to keep them from voting, having equal jobs and pay, etc. How quickly we forget I guess...


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You're free to have your religion, you just can't enforce it on others. This is simple stuff.

In theory, that's true. But the U.S. government makes this more complicated. Thomas Jefferson tried to explain it in a letter he penned on January 1, 1802 which said:

"I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church & State."

More recent examples of how this isn't going according to plan:

Pledge of Allegiance includes "One nation under God"

And in a court of justice you're asked to put your hand on a bible and swear to tell the truth "so help me God".

Man, are we ever off-topic on this thread! The fun part is that Yvonne will keep this on the top-20 list just so she can try to get the last word in...

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WhoElseCouldIBe wrote:

You're free to have your religion, you just can't enforce it on others. This is simple stuff.

In theory, that's true. But the U.S. government makes this more complicated. Thomas Jefferson tried to explain it in a letter he penned on January 1, 1802 which said:

"I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church & State."

More recent examples of how this isn't going according to plan:

Pledge of Allegiance includes "One nation under God"

And in a court of justice you're asked to put your hand on a bible and swear to tell the truth "so help me God".

Man, are we ever off-topic on this thread! The fun part is that Yvonne will keep this on the top-20 list just so she can try to get the last word in...

WhoElseCouldIBe wrote:

You're free to have your religion, you just can't enforce it on others. This is simple stuff.

Yvonne wrote:
Religion is the first part of the First Amendment, when that goes freedom of speech follows.

Yvonne wrote:
Religion is the first part of the First Amendment, when that goes freedom of speech follows.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs_vWKrqFmk

Yvonne wrote:
Bill Donahue's own words. I am sure if this is a lie Macy would sue Donahue.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fs_vWKrqFmk

JSleeze wrote:
UPDATE: My daughter and I were in Target last night. She used the bathroom and wasn't raped. Just thought I'd provide a measure, albeit small, of actual real life experience into the conversation.

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fat-ass-bike wrote:
How to spot a sociopath - 10 red flags.

http://www.naturalnews.com/036112_sociopaths_cults_influence.html

Sorry, you feel that way about yourself. Try counseling or if religious, try prayer.

fat-ass-bike wrote:
How to spot a sociopath - 10 red flags.

http://www.naturalnews.com/036112_sociopaths_cults_influence.html

Wishful_Thinking wrote:
What despairs me about this thread is how nothing is said about restaurants, bars, nightclubs where the restrooms are largely blended - and seem to be the way of the future, offering a civilized, flexible restroom experience for cis and trans-gendered folks alike. I think of my favorite lounges - G Bar, Therapy - and popular restaurants like Cafeteria and Standard Grille, where everyone shares the sinks and mirrors, and there are banks of WCs (and a room to one side with urinals for those of us who prefer to stand). And this isn't new! Many, many stylish bars, lounges, and restaurants have had nicely designed shared restroom facilities like this for years. Our inability to look beyond outmoded solutions, based on prejudices we should be past by now, and Victorian sensibilities that are a century out of date, is insane.

I highly recommend the Roasted Whole Chicken for 2 at Standard Grille - the best roast chicken I have ever had! - but at minimum, get in to use the restroom. Much more efficient use of space than separate men's and women's rooms, very elegant and spacious shared area to wash and groom.

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UPDATE: My daughter and I were in Target last night. She used the bathroom and wasn't raped. Just thought I'd provide a measure, albeit small, of actual real life experience into the conversation.

Lucky for you, but she has the rest of her life to go to public restrooms and daddy will not be around. I suggest you give her a whistle to place on her key chain in case she encounters trouble.

I wonder, how taxing is it on you to be in a perpetual state of outrage, anger, and nightmarish fantasy? How many medications are you on to help you cope with a hellish world in which rape is around every corner, and the specter of transgendered bandits are leering at you over every bathroom stall door? How many psychologists must you visit daily to calm you down after Fulop eats a hamburger like he owns the place?

Is there any possible planet on which you would be happy? Or is your version of heaven just a big bowl of throat lozenges to help with your incessant city hall speeches, and a pile of keyboards for your daily letters to the editor? Is your version of Shangri-La an oasis not of peace and quiet, but of scandal and persistent outrage?

Don't forget the parking lots. Any Nirvana for her needs to have plenty of available street parking and tons of quarter-full parking lots in bustling metro areas.

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UPDATE: My daughter and I were in Target last night. She used the bathroom and wasn't raped. Just thought I'd provide a measure, albeit small, of actual real life experience into the conversation.

Lucky for you, but she has the rest of her life to go to public restrooms and daddy will not be around. I suggest you give her a whistle to place on her key chain in case she encounters trouble.

I wonder, how taxing is it on you to be in a perpetual state of outrage, anger, and nightmarish fantasy? How many medications are you on to help you cope with a hellish world in which rape is around every corner, and the specter of transgendered bandits are leering at you over every bathroom stall door? How many psychologists must you visit daily to calm you down after Fulop eats a hamburger like he owns the place?

Is there any possible planet on which you would be happy? Or is your version of heaven just a big bowl of throat lozenges to help with your incessant city hall speeches, and a pile of keyboards for your daily letters to the editor? Is your version of Shangri-La an oasis not of peace and quiet, but of scandal and persistent outrage?

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JSleeze wrote:
UPDATE: My daughter and I were in Target last night. She used the bathroom and wasn't raped. Just thought I'd provide a measure, albeit small, of actual real life experience into the conversation.

Lucky for you, but she has the rest of her life to go to public restrooms and daddy will not be around. I suggest you give her a whistle to place on her key chain in case she encounters trouble.

I wonder, how taxing is it on you to be in a perpetual state of outrage, anger, and nightmarish fantasy? How many medications are you on to help you cope with a hellish world in which rape is around every corner, and the specter of transgendered bandits are leering at you over every bathroom stall door? How many psychologists must you visit daily to calm you down after Fulop eats a hamburger like he owns the place?

Is there any possible planet on which you would be happy? Or is your version of heaven just a big bowl of throat lozenges to help with your incessant city hall speeches, and a pile of keyboards for your daily letters to the editor? Is your version of Shangri-La an oasis not of peace and quiet, but of scandal and persistent outrage?

Yvonne wrote:
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JSleeze wrote:
UPDATE: My daughter and I were in Target last night. She used the bathroom and wasn't raped. Just thought I'd provide a measure, albeit small, of actual real life experience into the conversation.

Lucky for you, but she has the rest of her life to go to public restrooms and daddy will not be around. I suggest you give her a whistle to place on her key chain in case she encounters trouble.