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Re: Don't Put Up with NO/LOW Heat from JC Landlords/Employers
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Of course, the flip side to our awesome windows facing South is that we have to keep the shades/blinds down during the Summer.

On a sunny, Winter day, my place will get in the upper 70's easily. Happens regularly. On a sunny, Summer day, if I don't pull down the shades, curtains or blinds, my place will easily get into the 90's.


During the summer the sun is higher in the sky so I don't get direct sunlight coming in the windows as it does during the winter. I only lower the blinds at night. If it gets warm I open the windows for a nice harbor breeze. The downside to this is that my place gets a bit dustier.

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Yikes. My perspective comes from being a tenant, not a landlord: I can't imagine having the heat up to 70 at ANY time. Anything over 68 degrees is very stifling to me and my skin starts to suffer from dryness. In fact, I normally turn off my A/C when I leave the house, or set it to a very low number (~62) to prevent the place from getting too cold. Of course, I do have large windows with excellent southern exposure, so the place stays relatively warm on most days.


I have big south facing windows too so I turn off the heat during the day when I'm not home. When I have been home during the day on the weekends the temp will go to 77 with the shades down and the heat is off.


Of course, the flip side to our awesome windows facing South is that we have to keep the shades/blinds down during the Summer.

On a sunny, Winter day, my place will get in the upper 70's easily. Happens regularly. On a sunny, Summer day, if I don't pull down the shades, curtains or blinds, my place will easily get into the 90's.

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Yikes. My perspective comes from being a tenant, not a landlord: I can't imagine having the heat up to 70 at ANY time. Anything over 68 degrees is very stifling to me and my skin starts to suffer from dryness. In fact, I normally turn off my A/C when I leave the house, or set it to a very low number (~62) to prevent the place from getting too cold. Of course, I do have large windows with excellent southern exposure, so the place stays relatively warm on most days.


I have big south facing windows too so I turn off the heat during the day when I'm not home. When I have been home during the day on the weekends the temp will go to 77 with the shades down and the heat is off.

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Yikes. My perspective comes from being a tenant, not a landlord: I can't imagine having the heat up to 70 at ANY time. Anything over 68 degrees is very stifling to me and my skin starts to suffer from dryness. In fact, I normally turn off my A/C when I leave the house, or set it to a very low number (~62) to prevent the place from getting too cold. Of course, I do have large windows with excellent southern exposure, so the place stays relatively warm on most days.

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I'm pretty lucky, tenant hates an overly warm apartment. My house is sandwiched between to larger homes which seems to block some wind. The thermostat is set at 65 all day & night & is comfortable. When we had that little cold snap I put it up to 68 at night & back down to 65 in the morning. Works out fine.

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The winter after buying a building with a main steam boiler, meaning I paid the bills, I got a call from a tenant at 10 pm that it was FREEZING in there. I get my IR thermometer and head up to find the place is 70 deg, as it should be. It's February and the tenant is standing there in shorts and tank top. When I suggest she try putting on some clothing, she screams, "that's BULLSHIT!!" Welcome to the view from the other side. But I don't have the nerve to set the system to go down to 65 at night.

Even so, by replacing oil with gas and actually trying to tune the system we cut the insane heating bill we were quoted by the seller by 2/3. No wonder, if he was keeping it at 80.

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The standard established and used by engineers nationwide is ASHRAE Standard 55, Thermal Environmental Conditions for Human Occupancy. It defines the lower limit for comfort as 70 degrees-F, at low relative humidity, wearing appropriate indoor clothing while engaging in light activity.

It?s a good ordinance---there?s only so much more room left in Hell for stingy landlords.

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@WhoElseCouldIBe: isn't your alias also Lucifer?

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70 from 6am-9am when everyone in the house is getting ready for school/work, 66 during the day and down to 62 from 11pm to 6am

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I crank it. For me, being cold is terrible. Being warm and comfortable is pretty high on my list of priorities.

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69 during the day, and 65 at night.

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Typical JC resident a month after getting her first heating bill.. after turning down the heat:


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66 during the day, it goes off during the night. 6AM it goes on to 68, and gets shuttled back to 66 at 8AM. These are winter numbers, of course

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I pay my bill. 68 in winter when home (67 bedtime), 78 in summer when home. I use an humidifier 3 hours a day in the winter, no more dry skin.

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I wonder how many folks who pay their own heating bills keep it at 70 all day long.

Let's do a little survey, post what temperature you keep your place at and whether or not you pay your own bill.

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62 oF at night... or when I am not home. 68 to 70 oF during the day.

I have had tenants from India and the Caribbean who used to keep their places at 75 to 78 oF. Yes.. they paid their own heating bills.


65 degrees in winter, 80-ish in summer.

I hate coming into overheated spaces after being outside in the cold. (those heated seats on a crowded PATH are enough to make a person pass out.)

likewise, places that blast their AC all summer, when people are walking around in shorts and tank tops, baffle me.

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I wonder how many folks who pay their own heating bills keep it at 70 all day long.

Let's do a little survey, post what temperature you keep your place at and whether or not you pay your own bill.

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62 oF at night... or when I am not home. 68 to 70 oF during the day.

I have had tenants from India and the Caribbean who used to keep their places at 75 to 78 oF. Yes.. they paid their own heating bills.

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I wonder how many folks who pay their own heating bills keep it at 70 all day long.

Let's do a little survey, post what temperature you keep your place at and whether or not you pay your own bill.

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When I am home alone, I keep it @ 72 when my partner is home he turns it down to 66 and forces me to wear a sweater.

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I wonder how many folks who pay their own heating bills keep it at 70 all day long.

Let's do a little survey, post what temperature you keep your place at and whether or not you pay your own bill.

Robin.


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NOT LESS THAN 70-DEGREES? Can I call on myself?

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There is absolutely no reason why you need to suffer if your landlord/management company or employer does not supply proper heating to keep you safe and comfortable.

I spent one very cold winter learning this - and took my landlord to court (successfully) over this very issue.

Know your rights:

In a residence of two families or more (or in a place of employment), a temperature NOT LESS THAN 70-DEGREES must be supplied from 6am to 11pm. From 11pm to 6am, the temperature must be at least 65-DEGREES.

Specific JC regulation language and complaint numbers are found here:

http://www.cityofjerseycity.com/uploa ... 0ordinance%2011.25.13.pdf

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