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I thought those plans were quashed. It was just setup as an appeasement to bring an airline to AC.

It was reported they were quashed. Unfortunately, Christie recently announced that the estimated $1.5 billion extension (good luck staying at the estimate) was back on. Several weeks ago, the Port Authority paid $6 million for a firm to "study" how to implement the airport extension.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2014 ... on_to_newark_liberty.html

So Christie is fine with spending at least $1.5 billion for a useless airport extension. I guess he's also telling the truth that overnight PATH service should be eliminated for an annual savings of $10 million, or .6% of the cost of the airport extension.

Thank you for the update. I had missed that.

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Fat or not fat. Choice or not no one cares. What we need not lose focus on is the potential issue at hand. It's very slimey that this report was released during a major holiday week where people's focus was elsewhere. Nevertheless, we, the residents of JC, Hoboken and Newark need to rally together and ensure this ludicrous "solution" doesn't happen. Mismanagement of money and petty politics should not affect the average resident of these three cities.

The biggest issue with this is that it will affect those that need it most. There are people that work late shifts, getting paid menial wages that use this transportation. Sure, I can afford Uber or a cab if I so choose. However, those working these awful hours are the ones harmed the most.

It is a garbage move from a man that is acts like the human version of trash.

Posted on: 2014/12/29 15:56

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This is all politics. Its not a real proposal.

1. Its a response to Fulop's lawsuit for $400 million in back taxes.
2. Its a response to the state legislatures voting to restructure the agency while diminishing the power of both governors.
3. Its a shake down for campaign contributions from real estate interests in NJ, many of whom also have a presence in NY.

If this was a real proposal, the real estate developers would be shutting down development on half finished towers rather than continuing to throw good money after bad.

Perfectly stated.

This is all bullsh*t and even the title of this thread is misleading. The Port Authority released a 99 page report proposing several changes across the board and the PATH overnight service change is just one idea of many that was FLOATED. Neither governor singled out PATh and no service change is approved or even pending, so everyone needs to relax.

This has no basis is reality and is politics at its best. All parties involved are scheming and are pushing back at each other to promote hidden agendas.

At the end of the day public transportation is vital and therefore is heavily subsidized. The MTA loses money as does the PATH and just about every other public transportation entity. This is nothing new so the the fact they mention potential savings of 10 million is a joke and a drop in the bucket when you look at the big picture.

Fulop and Zimmer are already pushing back and the banks and developers will do so behind the scenes. The 24/7 PATH service is critical and as Hudson County continues to grow, service needs to increase, not decrease. A new station is coming to Harrison and Christie's buddies have development contracts for the surrounding neighborhood that will depend on PATH so just keep that in mind. Nevermind the WTC Hub that cost 4 billion and is almost complete. 10 million, really??

What we really need is for PATH to be classified as an Urban Transit System just like the NYC Subway so that it will be eligible for additional federal funding. This could be a ploy to get just that......

Posted on: 2014/12/29 15:53

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So if overeating is a weakness, not a genetic propensity (which the AMA says it is) do you also put the same thoughts on, say, smokers like Obama? And do you also insult them like you do Christie for his choice?

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'Fat' person? Do you also describe people by their color, or sexual orientation, in a negative way? Do you not have any friends, or relative, who are large? Do they know how you dislike them because of their physical attributes?

Fat is a choice, unlike those other options. He's also a man with means. He can choose to exercise or he can choose to be lazy, get surgery and he still couldn't even truly stick to a diet that would help him lose weight. Some people wear their weight well. Christie does not. His actions and behavior accentuates his disgusting nature. Spite, anger, bitterness... He's just an ugly person.

Fat or not fat. Choice or not no one cares. What we need not lose focus on is the potential issue at hand. It's very slimey that this report was released during a major holiday week where people's focus was elsewhere. Nevertheless, we, the residents of JC, Hoboken and Newark need to rally together and ensure this ludicrous "solution" doesn't happen. Mismanagement of money and petty politics should not affect the average resident of these three cities.

Posted on: 2014/12/29 15:49

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Ignore Monroe's pathetic attempts at distraction and deflection.

Focus on the fact that Christie approved and advocates for a $1.5 billion PATH extension to Newark Airport, obviously not caring about the cost. But he expects you to take him at his word that overnight service should be eliminated for an annual savings of $10 million, or .6% of his airport extension.

That's how you know he's even more full of it than usual.

Posted on: 2014/12/29 15:48

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So if overeating is a weakness, not a genetic propensity (which the AMA says it is) do you also put the same thoughts on, say, smokers like Obama? And do you also insult them like you do Christie for his choice?

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'Fat' person? Do you also describe people by their color, or sexual orientation, in a negative way? Do you not have any friends, or relative, who are large? Do they know how you dislike them because of their physical attributes?

Fat is a choice, unlike those other options. He's also a man with means. He can choose to exercise or he can choose to be lazy, get surgery and he still couldn't even truly stick to a diet that would help him lose weight. Some people wear their weight well. Christie does not. His actions and behavior accentuates his disgusting nature. Spite, anger, bitterness... He's just an ugly person.

Posted on: 2014/12/29 15:44

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I thought those plans were quashed. It was just setup as an appeasement to bring an airline to AC.

It was reported they were quashed. Unfortunately, Christie recently announced that the estimated $1.5 billion extension (good luck staying at the estimate) was back on. Several weeks ago, the Port Authority paid $6 million for a firm to "study" how to implement the airport extension.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2014 ... on_to_newark_liberty.html

So Christie is fine with spending at least $1.5 billion for a useless airport extension. I guess he's also telling the truth that overnight PATH service should be eliminated for an annual savings of $10 million, or .6% of the cost of the airport extension.

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'Fat' person? Do you also describe people by their color, or sexual orientation, in a negative way? Do you not have any friends, or relative, who are large? Do they know how you dislike them because of their physical attributes?

Fat is a choice, unlike those other options. He's also a man with means. He can choose to exercise or he can choose to be lazy, get surgery and he still couldn't even truly stick to a diet that would help him lose weight. Some people wear their weight well. Christie does not. His actions and behavior accentuates his disgusting nature. Spite, anger, bitterness... He's just an ugly person.

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'Fat' person? Do you also describe people by their color, or sexual orientation, in a negative way? Do you not have any friends, or relative, who are large? Do they know how you dislike them because of their physical attributes?

Fat is a choice, unlike those other options. He's also a man with means. He can choose to exercise or he can choose to be lazy, get surgery and he still couldn't even truly stick to a diet that would help him lose weight. Some people wear their weight well. Christie does not. His actions and behavior accentuates his disgusting nature. Spite, anger, bitterness... He's just an ugly person.

Posted on: 2014/12/29 15:30

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cutting night and weekend service would not save that much money.....i am hoping that this a gambit to transfer path to nj transit so that the system can receive federal tax funds...perhaps fares have to rise.

Posted on: 2014/12/29 15:25

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'Fat' person? Do you also describe people by their color, or sexual orientation, in a negative way? Do you not have any friends, or relative, who are large? Do they know how you dislike them because of their physical attributes?

Posted on: 2014/12/29 15:18

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No trashing of the Democrat Governor of NY who's shacking up in the Governor's mansion with his lousy chef girlfriend?

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where is monroe?

Why? There is no defending this. It is purely a screw job to people that won't vote for an overweight scumbag. The man is disgusting inside and out and is of the opinion that he got his so screw those for trying to get there's.

I don?t live in New York, but you?ll see that I wrote his motivation. The PATH doesn?t benefit him. He wants residents to fill out all those new towers and buildings. Those that can?t afford Manhattan can live in the outer boroughs or even Long Island. His opinion is that of the typical New Yorker, simply that he could give a flying fig if New Jersey residents are screwed.

With Cuomo, I at least understand his motivation. Screwing those in Jersey could benefit him. With Christie, he?s simply screwing his own residents.

Maybe it is because I?m not some bitter, fat person. I just simply don?t understand intentionally trying to F over a portion of people simply based on their voting record. It?s a petty-small man action.

Posted on: 2014/12/29 15:08

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Fulop & Zimmer are on the same page here and all elected officials in the NJ cities including city and county have to join Fulop & Zimmer on this one. To the barricades.

i doubt any efforts to overturn a potential elmination of night service would be useless since legislators in southern and cental nj couldn't care less about path, and no one in ny state really gives a rat's ass about nj

Posted on: 2014/12/29 14:45

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the patco train between philadelphia nd camden runs 24/7.

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No trashing of the Democrat Governor of NY who's shacking up in the Governor's mansion with his lousy chef girlfriend?

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where is monroe?

Why? There is no defending this. It is purely a screw job to people that won't vote for an overweight scumbag. The man is disgusting inside and out and is of the opinion that he got his so screw those for trying to get there's.

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Fulop & Zimmer are on the same page here and all elected officials in the NJ cities including city and county have to join Fulop & Zimmer on this one. To the barricades.

Posted on: 2014/12/29 14:24

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1. Can't the governors' vetos be overridden?

2. Could closing a mass transit link for six (?) hours in this part of the world violate any clean air acts at the state or federal level?

Posted on: 2014/12/29 14:19

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I'm looking for my Christmas card from President Obama.

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where is monroe?

Why? There is no defending this. It is purely a screw job to people that won't vote for an overweight scumbag. The man is disgusting inside and out and is of the opinion that he got his so screw those for trying to get there's.

Posted on: 2014/12/29 14:08

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Christie is doing this as a #OOPS# you to the predominantly democratic voters who are serviced by the PATH. Cuomo is no better. Truly disgraceful.

Cuomo views this as a nuisance. Shutting the PATH at night means more people stay in NY or become New Yorkers. Christie is a POS. You state that he?s doing this purely out of spite to the Democratic voters and you?re probably right. No wonder so many people easily believe (and could possibly be right) that Christie had the GWB shutdown to screw with a mayor.

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Why would the MTA want to take over a service that loses money??

I?m not very convinced that you fully grasp the full economic benefits that exist with mass transit.

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How can the Port Authority justify a $1.5 billion extension to Newark Liberty, and at the same time want to shut down nights and weekend service to save a paltry $10m/year? The PA bean counters are quite insane.

http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2014 ... ion_to_start_in_2018.html

I thought those plans were quashed. It was just setup as an appeasement to bring an airline to AC.

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where is monroe?

Posted on: 2014/12/29 13:53

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When governors act righteously, they hold televised news conferences at noon. When they act deviously, they issue written statements on Friday evening and scurry home for cover.

But when they act indefensibly, and sink into the company of serpents and snakes, they make their move on Saturday night of Christmas weekend, hoping the odor passes before the new week begins.

http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2 ... y_moran.html#incart_river

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I think it is a big FU to JC & Hoboken with 2 Democratic mayors that refused to endorse the fat guy during his last reelection campaign. It's part of his policy of revenge if he doesn't get what he wants.

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Interesting. I have a question to all those who so vehemently disapprove of the idea to interrupt service on weekend nights. Could you clarify which one is it?

(a) Do you think that PATH is pretty up-to-date, suffers from no outages and doesn't need any major improvements?

(b) Do you want those major improvements to be done at some other times?

(c) Do you want those major improvements to be done without service interruptions?

ah, we can always count on boris for his logical fallacies. thanks for never changing.

if you bothered to read the post, which obviously, you didn't, because that would take some slight amount of intelligence, you'd have noted that it isn't for repairs, it's for "operational and capital expense savings"

but thanks for playing, boris. it's truly nice to know that we can depend on you for an ignorant comment that has nothing to do with the topic.

Posted on: 2014/12/29 10:52

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Interesting. I have a question to all those who so vehemently disapprove of the idea to interrupt service on weekend nights. Could you clarify which one is it?

(a) Do you think that PATH is pretty up-to-date, suffers from no outages and doesn't need any major improvements?

(b) Do you want those major improvements to be done at some other times?

(c) Do you want those major improvements to be done without service interruptions?

Posted on: 2014/12/29 7:03

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We all know that Christie is a piece of sh*t but Cuomo has really been a disappointment.

Cuomo is a bigger shit than Christie. This is the least of it.
i can understand cuomo not caring about path, i can not understand christie even allowing discussion of this crap idea

I told you. He doesn't care about the liberal voters here. Also, this is a big screw you to Fulop. Fulop's governor run is toast if he can't stop this proposal.

Posted on: 2014/12/29 5:51