Monroe wrote:
It may well turn out to be a 'bad' shooting; if so, prosecute to the max.

But as more light is shone on the incident (rather than the race-baiting) it appears not to be the case. And now on social media we're seeing photos of Brown wearing gang colors, flashing gang signs, and like the Martin case Brown's juvenile record will be released at some point-it's said that he had an incident at a Wal Mart where he stole a hammer and then used it to threaten a hot dog vendor outside said Wal Mart.

It's a tragedy all around, because his family will never be the same, the officer and his family will never be the same, and race relations will worsen because of the agenda of some to inflame the issue.

fat-ass-bike wrote:
Given what we know so far, the cop was the only victim in my opinion. As said earlier, this cop, I believe didn't wake up that morning wanting to kill anyone.

greenville wrote:
The cop shot him in self defense per spectators of the event.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e94_1408294281

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It is remarkable that the media knew all week long the victim was a robbery suspect and yet not one reporter investigated the rumor?

Justice Department Reportedly Asked Ferguson Cops Not To Release Alleged Robbery Video Of Slain Teen

Police in Ferguson released a video tape allegedly showing slain teen Michael Brown robbing a store even though the Justice Department warned that doing so could inflame racial tensions, CNN is reporting.

Ferguson cops had wanted to release the video on Thursday but held off when federal officials asked them not to release the tape, an unnamed law enforcement official told CNN. That tape allegedly showed Brown stealing cigars from a convenience store before a police officer shot the unarmed 18-year-old in the street last weekend.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/feds-o ... tape-2014-8#ixzz3AbheqOfK

I do not have much faith in the DOJ honestly or objectively dealing with racial issues; not to release the tape because it "might inflame racial tensions"? That fire was already burning, if anything it might cause people to pause and think?

Notice how the protestors demanded "transparency" by demanding the name of the cop who killed Brown? Yet they become outraged upon release of a video directly bearing on the incident?

The strong-arm robbery took place 10 minutes before Brown's interaction with the cop. It is directly relevant to show what was going through Brown's head when the incident happened.

And why wasn't anyone outraged when the media was disseminating utterly irrelevant information such as Brown was about to attend college?

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It is remarkable that the media knew all week long the victim was a robbery suspect and yet not one reporter investigated the rumor?

Justice Department Reportedly Asked Ferguson Cops Not To Release Alleged Robbery Video Of Slain Teen

Police in Ferguson released a video tape allegedly showing slain teen Michael Brown robbing a store even though the Justice Department warned that doing so could inflame racial tensions, CNN is reporting.

Ferguson cops had wanted to release the video on Thursday but held off when federal officials asked them not to release the tape, an unnamed law enforcement official told CNN. That tape allegedly showed Brown stealing cigars from a convenience store before a police officer shot the unarmed 18-year-old in the street last weekend.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/feds-o ... tape-2014-8#ixzz3AbheqOfK

I do not have much faith in the DOJ honestly or objectively dealing with racial issues; not to release the tape because it "might inflame racial tensions"? That fire was already burning, if anything it might cause people to pause and think?

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It is remarkable that the media knew all week long the victim was a robbery suspect and yet not one reporter investigated the rumor?

Justice Department Reportedly Asked Ferguson Cops Not To Release Alleged Robbery Video Of Slain Teen

Police in Ferguson released a video tape allegedly showing slain teen Michael Brown robbing a store even though the Justice Department warned that doing so could inflame racial tensions, CNN is reporting.

Ferguson cops had wanted to release the video on Thursday but held off when federal officials asked them not to release the tape, an unnamed law enforcement official told CNN. That tape allegedly showed Brown stealing cigars from a convenience store before a police officer shot the unarmed 18-year-old in the street last weekend.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/feds-o ... tape-2014-8#ixzz3AbheqOfK

It is remarkable that the media knew all week long the victim was a robbery suspect and yet not one reporter investigated the rumor?

And this was from a couple days ago, but barely reported on by the media. The rioters burned a convenience store to the ground, thinking it was the one that Brown had robbed:

devilsadvocate wrote:
Setting aside the merits (or lack thereof) of complaints related to the shooting of a guy 300 lb guy that just attacked another man and robbed a store like 15 minutes earlier, can we all agree that rioters should be shot on sight? And that the cops that REALLY need to be disciplined are the ones standing by as looting occurs? Anyone?

Old-Skool-JC wrote:
I'm sure Mike Brown's parents would rather have their son back and starting school, as he was due to do.
The police shot an unarmed kid, then let his body lie in the streets for hours while they militarized the neighborhood. I don't think looting is an appropriate response, but I can see why it happened.
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JCMan8 wrote:
More looting and burning down stores last night. And due to fear of bad press, the police stood back and watched it happen.

Despite the widespread looting, police made no arrests. So this is the current situation, as per CNN:

"That harmony has been replaced by store owners holding semi-automatic rifles and handguns and sweeping up ruins."

http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/16/us/missouri-teen-shooting/index.html

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"This is wonderful. This is what should have happened a long time ago,? Robert Powell, 42, said as he watched looters during the night hop through the shattered glass door of a meat market."

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationn ... nrest-20140816-story.html

This is the country that some of you want. Screw the business owners who pay taxes, probably the only people who pay taxes in the ghetto. They aren't important. Like some people on this thread have said, screw the scummy police! We have to protect the rights of lowlifes to rob and steal at will!

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Okay, we get it. All cops are dirty pigs/fascists/killers. Now maybe let the people who are in charge of this thing sort it out.

I tell my kids not to a) rob any convenience stores, b) don't assault the convenience store owner, and c) don't resist the police when your description matches the one provided to the cops in a 911 call about the robbery/assault.

Of course, this 'kid' was a 6'4", 300 lb man, the man assaulted appears to be a slight South Asian man, and the policeman was a veteran with no disciplinary actions on his record.

Those are the facts that we know, the circumstances of the shooting remain to be determined.

It appears that c) don't resist the police when your description matches the one provided to the cops in a 911 call about the robbery/assault. is not a fact we know:
http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/15/us/miss ... ting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

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JCishome wrote:
Okay, we get it. All cops are dirty pigs/fascists/killers. Now maybe let the people who are in charge of this thing sort it out.

I tell my kids not to a) rob any convenience stores, b) don't assault the convenience store owner, and c) don't resist the police when your description matches the one provided to the cops in a 911 call about the robbery/assault.

Of course, this 'kid' was a 6'4", 300 lb man, the man assaulted appears to be a slight South Asian man, and the policeman was a veteran with no disciplinary actions on his record.

Those are the facts that we know, the circumstances of the shooting remain to be determined.

It appears that c) don't resist the police when your description matches the one provided to the cops in a 911 call about the robbery/assault. is not a fact we know:
http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/15/us/miss ... ting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Monroe wrote:
This all now needs to be revisited in the context that we have a video of Michael Brown performing the strong arm robbery at the convenience store; we now have facts that support

that the police had a description of the robber, so they were looking for someone with that description, it wasn't a random stop and frisk type or harassment stop. The police officer was responding to a 911 call of that specific robbery.

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Michael Brown had a reason to try to evade police.

Of course, no one deserves to die over a $50 box of cigars. But the events that occurred began with a strong arm robbery by the eventual victim it appears. Do criminals often resist arrest with bad outcomes? Yes.

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JCishome wrote:
Okay, we get it. All cops are dirty pigs/fascists/killers. Now maybe let the people who are in charge of this thing sort it out.

I tell my kids not to a) rob any convenience stores, b) don't assault the convenience store owner, and c) don't resist the police when your description matches the one provided to the cops in a 911 call about the robbery/assault.

Of course, this 'kid' was a 6'4", 300 lb man, the man assaulted appears to be a slight South Asian man, and the policeman was a veteran with no disciplinary actions on his record.

Those are the facts that we know, the circumstances of the shooting remain to be determined.

It appears that c) don't resist the police when your description matches the one provided to the cops in a 911 call about the robbery/assault. is not a fact we know:
http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/15/us/miss ... ting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Monroe wrote:
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JCishome wrote:
Okay, we get it. All cops are dirty pigs/fascists/killers. Now maybe let the people who are in charge of this thing sort it out.

I tell my kids not to a) rob any convenience stores, b) don't assault the convenience store owner, and c) don't resist the police when your description matches the one provided to the cops in a 911 call about the robbery/assault.

Of course, this 'kid' was a 6'4", 300 lb man, the man assaulted appears to be a slight South Asian man, and the policeman was a veteran with no disciplinary actions on his record.

Those are the facts that we know, the circumstances of the shooting remain to be determined.

JCishome wrote:
Okay, we get it. All cops are dirty pigs/fascists/killers. Now maybe let the people who are in charge of this thing sort it out.