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i think you are right. healy was a municipal court judge and before that a prosecutor and an attorney in private practice. reading up on the rules, understanding the difference between fact and evidence, and knowing what is permissible and what is not is the least i would expect from him.
while it is likely that he is implicated in the whole process, perhaps well beyond what is evident in the various criminal complaints that we have been reading for the past week, the truth will not emerge. what we do not know, and perhaps never will, is what he did, said and ordered when the CW wasn't around? if may be so that he is in fact innocent (as innocent as a pol can be in new jersey). 
Posted on: 2009/7/29 20:43
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I think "smarter than he's given credit for" is a more likely answer than not guilty. I think (as seems apparent in the Beldini complaint) that he knows the outer edges of the law - when to leave a room, how things can be structured to give the appearance of legality (or at a minimum, raise reasonable doubt), how to convince his lackeys to be his funnels to remove culpability from himself, etc. That's how I'm betting, anyhow.
Posted on: 2009/7/29 20:08
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It is certainly possible. But given that several of the people who were indicted were raising money for his campaign, it is also possible that he was just too smart or too lucky to get caught. I have an open mind.
Posted on: 2009/7/29 20:07
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I live by the river.
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While reading this thread, I found it odd that no one mentioned the amount of focus the feds would have likely placed on the Healy to include him on the list of those indicted.
I don't think it's that far fetched to entertain the notion that he is not guilty, especially considering that his record shows no incident of bribery, extortion or anything close to it. In contrast, the runners-up in the last election can't claim the same.
Posted on: 2009/7/29 19:44
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If Shaws death was suicide that says a lot about how deeply he was involved. In the news he says why are they going after me, my payment was small compared to 25 mil
If it was suicide, I doubt he killed himself for 10k. Healy can sleep good? Well now there is one less partner in crime to ratt him out. I for one do not believe the mayor is blind. But he must think we are.
Posted on: 2009/7/29 12:28
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Last night I saw on the news that the Mayor of Secaucus resigned. The deputy Mayor, who is taking over for now, said, regarding the Mayor "Yeah. He's a real stand up guy and did what's right for the city."... ummmm.... ok?
By the way, what do Healy's weight and looks have to do with anything? I'd rather judge him solely on his actions (or inaction)... and, not for nothing, but he's not even that fat.
Posted on: 2009/7/29 11:40
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What a piece of crap Healy is. He looks like a turd anyway. So what was he doing at the meeting. Perhaps he was just there to pick up the tab.
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Healy on Channel 4 tonight explaining he was at the meeting in the Medical Center Luncheonette with Beldini, Cheatem & Dwek but he did'nt do any thing wrong. What do you think his campaign treasurer, Beldini, was thinking when she heard that? "Why that sunnabitch!" Go gettim Leona, he just threw you under da big blue bus.
Posted on: 2009/7/29 3:45
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Did he leave a note?
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Posted on: 2009/7/29 1:33
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wow. i saw two ambulances rushing by with sirens outside my apartment in the early evening and thought that someone probably died. if he comitted suicide, that's really sad.
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http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009 ... investigate_death_of.html
"Jersey City police and Hudson County Prosecutor Edward DeFazio declined to characterize the death pending an autopsy, but three officials with knowledge of the investigation said multiple bottles of pills were found near Shaw's body. One of the officials said that while investigators suspect suicide, they did not want to jump to conclusions because Shaw suffers from an unspecified medical condition. The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because the probe was in its early stages."
Posted on: 2009/7/29 1:28
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Did he have his kidneys?
Posted on: 2009/7/29 1:21
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PBW wrote: I made no reference to his innocence or guilt in my post (even though I think he's guilty). Healy is the one that says he sleeps fine. Although, with my council in disarray, not sure why.
Posted on: 2009/7/29 1:16
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Jack Shaw lived at Portside. He was found dead late this afternoon.
Posted on: 2009/7/29 1:15
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Anybody know if this is what all of the press vans are doing at the end of Warren Street?
Posted on: 2009/7/29 1:12
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61? He looks closer to 80 in that photo. I'd suspect foul play, but he looks like he was in poor health.
Posted on: 2009/7/29 0:46
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One might know why he can sleep so easily.
Posted on: 2009/7/29 0:44
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It may also be possible that Healy didn't break the law.
Posted on: 2009/7/29 0:27
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http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/ ... ption_Probe_New_York.html
Video of News Channel 4's exclusive interview with Mayor Healy, where he explains why he has no trouble sleeping.
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A little more information is given in this update:
Jack Shaw of Jersey City, one of the 44 people arrested in Thursday's massive New Jersey corruption scandal, was found dead in his apartment this evening, Hudson County Prosecutor Edward DeFazio has confirmed. A relative found the 61-year-old political consultant's body, De Fazio said. Police were called at 5:17 p.m. and Shaw was officially declared dead at 6 p.m. Homicide investigators as well as the regular police contingent responded, DeFazio said, noting that no weapon was found. An autopsy will determine the cause of death, he said. In the criminal complaint against Shaw, he is accused of taking $10,000 from the government informant for himself and an additional $10,000 in campaign contribution for an unnamed Jersey City official. The longtime consultant had been a keen observer of the rough-and-tumble world of Hudson County politics for decades.
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i just got chills. yikes yikes yikes.
Posted on: 2009/7/28 23:07
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Jack Shaw, figure in massive NJ corruption scandal, found dead in Jersey City
By Agustin C. Torres/The Jersey Journal Tuesday July 28, 2009, 7:00 PM Jack Shaw of Jersey City, one of the 44 people arrested in Thursday's massive New Jersey corruption scandal, was found dead in his apartment this evening, Hudson County Prosecutor Edward DeFazio has confirmed. A relative found the political consultant's body, De Fazio said. Police were called at 5:17 p.m. and Shaw was officially declared dead at 6 p.m. Homicide investigators as well as the regular police contingent responded, DeFazio said, noting that no weapon was found. An autopsy will determine the cause of death, he said.
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Posted on: 2009/7/28 23:02
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MAJOR PLAYER IN CORRUPTION SCANDAL IS DEAD!!!
http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... ure_in_massive_corru.html
Posted on: 2009/7/28 23:00
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GOOD POINT!! Healy and Vega wont be entering the building from the front steps, they will be slithering in from the back door, If they show up at all. EVERY PERSON COUNTS! PLEASE SHOW THEM WE ARE NOT GOING TO PUT UP WITH THIS BS. COME TO CITY HALL TOMORROW 7/29 @9:am
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Let's hope there is a good turnout of the mass media for tomorrow's rally and Council meeting. Remember to also congregate behind City Hall as well. That's where the hand in glove folks enter the building.
Posted on: 2009/7/28 21:51
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Posted on: 2009/7/28 19:16
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Posted on: 2009/7/28 17:29
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Just got a 1010 wins alert that the secaucus mayor is resigning
Posted on: 2009/7/28 17:21
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Local and state elected officials, including the Governor, have begun to publicly call for the these crooks to resign. News stories to that effect are in papers all across the state. Media is all over this story and will be in JC tomorrow to see it live. Hoboken dems are calling for the mayor of that city to resign. Yet, all we have heard from the council, save for one member, is deafening silence. Healy has suspended city employees, which does not include Vega's council duties, nor his position as president of the council.
There is no law which requires these people to resign. Only pressure from the public, media, and other elected officials can achieve this since hoping that these crooks have some shame, accept the consequences of selling the public trust, and resigning immediately is a long shot. Tomorrow is critical. I'll be there bright and early with a sign and plenty throat lozenges. Hope it will be impossible for them to get into city hall due to the size of the crowd.
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