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Re: He's Back! Manzo running for Mayor - hopes the fifth time's the charm.
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jmanny, omar, samual, and newguy are all posting from the same IP address.




Might want to add JRL to the list.Sheeees its only January.
So many Trolls,so little time.......

Posted on: 2009/1/20 8:25
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Re: He's Back! Manzo running for Mayor - hopes the fifth time's the charm.
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Hey Mr. Rogers, there is no question your are not a troll, your aredefinitely only a jerkoff...

Posted on: 2009/1/19 11:32
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Re: He's Back! Manzo running for Mayor - hopes the fifth time's the charm.
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Mr. Rogers four days ago your praising Jim Carroll as can be seen above from the above posting done on January 14th, now your ripping him and insinuating he be a conflicted councilman. This is why politics s____ks, a family man like Jim Carroll integrity is now going to be questioned by you because you don't like it that a couple of posters feel that Steve Fulop should support someone for mayor.

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Hey jmanny are you a jerkoff or just a troll for Manzo.I praised Jim Carroll and have not changed my opininion what so ever.

Just because i said that Ross knows his history does not mean i changed my mind.Where in my postings am i ripping jimmy.
Your constant whining about how Fulop should Back Manzo is the Equivalent of manzo slapping Posters up all over downtown.

By the way you still can't use the QUOTES for shit.......

Posted on: 2009/1/19 11:31
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Re: He's Back! Manzo running for Mayor - hopes the fifth time's the charm.
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Mr. Rogers four days ago your praising Jim Carroll as can be seen above from the above posting done on January 14th, now your ripping him and insinuating he be a conflicted councilman. This is why politics s____ks, a family man like Jim Carroll integrity is now going to be questioned by you because you don't like it that a couple of posters feel that Steve Fulop should support someone for mayor.

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Posted on: 2009/1/18 11:28
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Re: He's Back! Manzo running for Mayor - hopes the fifth time's the charm.
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Re: He's Back! Manzo running for Mayor - hopes the fifth time's the charm. #51
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I happen to know Jimmy Carroll. Jim is a lifelong Jersey City resident who lives in the heights with his family. Jim who is an attorney is very community spirited and involved with the schools, and he donates his proffesional services to the church. Jim is a police sergeant in Jersey City and a fine example of the youth and proffesionalism that should be reflected on the city council. this was a very very good pick for a very important council seat by Manzo.





Could't agree more on Jimmy Carroll.He is a real nice guy who has done a lot of great things in the heights.Sixteen years of Bill
Gaughan are more than enough.Streets are filthy up there and Gaughans whole family is on the payroll.I will defenitly Volunteer
some time to help Jimmy Carroll knock off Bill(four jobs)Gaughan.


So Carroll's a police sergeant, an attorney (more than likely on the city's nickel), is running for paid political office, and the Gaughan's are milking the system?






Carroll is a police officer who will have to take a leave of absence to be a councilmen.He does not have any legal work with the city nor county.
The gaughn family on the other hand have at least six jobs and three free cars with gas in the family.Big difference.

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Posted on: 2009/1/18 11:27
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Re: He's Back! Manzo running for Mayor - hopes the fifth time's the charm.
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Fulop has to step up to the plate here. We have a reform slate (so far) under Manzo


OK, I got this far, and I have to take issue with the claim of "reform". Let me first say that (with the exception of Jimmy King), I will accept the premise that Manzo's slate consists of upstanding citizens. But here's the problem, and it's the exact same problem that many of the other council members have: 2 masters.

Jim Carroll is an active duty cop, who will take a leave of absence if he's elected. Is it plausible to believe that he will really be able to take a tough stand against the police when it comes to voting? Would he be able to vote against police contracts filled with goodies at taxpayer expense? Or will he abstain? How does that serve Ward D?

Lori Serrano is a school district accountant. One assumes that she won't be taking a leave of absence since city council doesn't pay a living wage. Is it plausible to believe that she will really be able to take a tough stand against the board of education when it comes to voting? Her case is even more problematic that Carroll's. And as a former Jersey City Housing Authority chair, Ms. Serrano is certainly no newcomer to JC politics.

As for Jimmy King, the very idea that he brings reform is ludicrous. Remember who he supported last time (while running as an independent for Ward C)? Surprise, it was Healy. Don't forget his time at the Parking Authority (http://www.talkingpolitics.net/JCPA.htm). From the site: "Early in Smith's term, several new commissioners were named to the JCPA. Those commissioners first suspended King, then initiated an investigation into activities allegedly involving JCPA spending, hiring a forensic accountant and an attorney. The investigation also probed allegations that King - who had the authority to hire and fire staff - handed out promotions to JCPA personnel who were members of his civic association."

Don't get me wrong - most of the sitting councimembers have similar situations. It just seems to me that calling this a reform slate just because the candidates, up until now, haven't held elected office, is a bit of a stretch. They're relatively fresh faces, but they seem to know their way around the block.




Say what you want but Ross knows his history.Why some are pushing Fulop to get on board so early is beyond me.File day is March 19th.Never know what will happen.

Posted on: 2009/1/18 11:27
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Re: He's Back! Manzo running for Mayor - hopes the fifth time's the charm.
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Mr. Rogers four days ago your praising Jim Carroll as can be seen above from the above posting done on January 14th, now your ripping him and insinuating he be a conflicted councilman. This is why politics s____ks, a family man like Jim Carroll integrity is now going to be questioned by you because you don't like it that a couple of posters feel that Steve Fulop should support someone for mayor.

Posted on: 2009/1/18 11:25
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Re: He's Back! Manzo running for Mayor - hopes the fifth time's the charm.
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Re: He's Back! Manzo running for Mayor - hopes the fifth time's the charm. #51
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I happen to know Jimmy Carroll. Jim is a lifelong Jersey City resident who lives in the heights with his family. Jim who is an attorney is very community spirited and involved with the schools, and he donates his proffesional services to the church. Jim is a police sergeant in Jersey City and a fine example of the youth and proffesionalism that should be reflected on the city council. this was a very very good pick for a very important council seat by Manzo.





Could't agree more on Jimmy Carroll.He is a real nice guy who has done a lot of great things in the heights.Sixteen years of Bill
Gaughan are more than enough.Streets are filthy up there and Gaughans whole family is on the payroll.I will defenitly Volunteer
some time to help Jimmy Carroll knock off Bill(four jobs)Gaughan.


So Carroll's a police sergeant, an attorney (more than likely on the city's nickel), is running for paid political office, and the Gaughan's are milking the system?






Carroll is a police officer who will have to take a leave of absence to be a councilmen.He does not have any legal work with the city nor county.
The gaughn family on the other hand have at least six jobs and three free cars with gas in the family.Big difference.

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Posted on: 2009/1/18 11:10
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Re: He's Back! Manzo running for Mayor - hopes the fifth time's the charm.
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I have been watching the spirited debate between Samual and Ross_Ewage, and I have to say I believe that both writers make very good points with their arguments. I must say though that when Ross laments about Carroll earning a law degree on the city's "nickel" the focus of his complaint should really not be directed at Carroll. Carroll has only taken advantage of a benefit that is offered to all Jersey City Policce Officers (according to Samual), there is nothing unseemly or wrong for Carroll to excercise whats available to him under his labor contract. I think it would be more appropriate for Ross to direct his feelings more toward the entity (Jersey City) which provides the benefit which is the focus of his complaint.
One issue that Samual has raised was that Carrol was basically a family guy involved in his community through his church and through the schools. So far, I have not yet seen an objection to that part of Carrolls life from Ross_Ewage, and hopefully we won't.

Posted on: 2009/1/16 17:03
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Re: He's Back! Manzo running for Mayor - hopes the fifth time's the charm.
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Yes, no doubt I do have an agenda. However my goal is good goverment, and good goverment includes good people, and Jim Carrol is one of those good people. As to your views that the city doesn't benefit by supplying its officers with incentives to continue their education, which they do on their "on their own time": These views are simply not consistant with the policies that exist in many major police departments across our nation, where educational opportunities are offered to their police officers as incentives to them to complete this training on their own time. So, you don't agree with me that a police officer having a law degree benefits the city, well I continue to disagree with you for reasons stated in my previous post. However, what really seems to bother you is that a police officer can make an extra buck by maybe doing a real estate closing. Quite frankly this would seem more like jealousy on your part than a reasoned response.

I am happy you agree with me that Robert Troy was a disasterous appointment by Mayor Healy. And yes, a well trained police officer in all aspects of the law can save the city millions of dollars in civil liability. I am not implying that , its a fact, just look at the money which untrained police officers across the country have cost their municipalities in legal fees and punitive damages etc...


Well, of course I'm jealous - who wouldn't be? But what bothers me, and what should bother anyone interested in less expensive government (which I assume qualifies as "good" government) is that my taxes are paying for more than just adequate police protection, but for expensive, unnecessary, and essentially self-serving education which does not benefit the city.

A sergeant on the beat, behind a desk, or supervising the radio room (and whatever else they do) simply has no need for a law degree. None whatsoever.

Sending cops for homeland security training - good.
Sending cops for forensics training - good.
Sending cops to learn foreign languages - good.

Paying for cops' career changes when they start to collect their pensions - not good. The fact that "everyone does it" doesn't make it right. And as our economy continues to tank, is it so unreasonable to ask someone to pay for their own education? Especially someone who makes over $100k/year? Really?

http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?Category=data

"...just look at the money which untrained police officers across the country have cost their municipalities in legal fees and punitive damages etc". This points to the need for better on-the-job training, not the need to equip every beat copy with a J.D.

Posted on: 2009/1/16 16:47
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Re: He's Back! Manzo running for Mayor - hopes the fifth time's the charm.
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I happen to know Jimmy Carroll. Jim is a lifelong Jersey City resident who lives in the heights with his family. Jim who is an attorney is very community spirited and involved with the schools, and he donates his proffesional services to the church. Jim is a police sergeant in Jersey City and a fine example of the youth and proffesionalism that should be reflected on the city council. this was a very very good pick for a very important council seat by Manzo.





If I am keeping score properly, weren't both Jimmy Carroll and Jimmy King both big Steven Fulop supporters over the past several years? In fact if my memory serves me correctly I think Jimmy Carroll actually allied with Councilman Fulop way back in 2007 and made a presentation to the city council regarding both the pay to play referendum and the dual job holder referendum. It would be great if Steve Fulop joined these guys and maybe we could finally some real change in City Goverment.

Posted on: 2009/1/14 17:43
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Re: He's Back! Manzo running for Mayor - hopes the fifth time's the charm.
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This question for Mr. Rogers.

I really like Steve Fulop and what he has done as a councilman over the past 4 years. And, what I have read about Manzo's reputation amongst his peers in the assembly, would make him seem to be a good mayoral candidate, certainly better than the present administration. What do you think the chances are that Fulop would come out in support of Manzo? If I recall correctly, didn't Fulop support Manzo for the Senate a couple of years ago? I don't know too much about politics but this seems like it could be a good partnership.

Posted on: 2008/12/18 22:19
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Re: He's Back! Manzo running for Mayor - hopes the fifth time's the charm.
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How has he failed as a legislator? This is contrary to what I have read after googling him. Is there some failure in particular he made as a legislator?

I am asking this of FrGuidaoSarducci.

Posted on: 2008/12/16 19:50
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Re: He's Back! Manzo running for Mayor - hopes the fifth time's the charm.
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I don't know much about Manzo, so I googled him. What I have learned is during his four years as an assemblyman his peers in the assembly viewed him as having one of the most effective and productive legislative offices in the State. So, I would think he desrves a serious looking at as a potential mayoral candidate.

Posted on: 2008/12/15 19:32
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Re: Steve Fulop
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I have only been a resident here several years, but I must also comment on this thread. I had the occasion to meet Steve on the way home from New York on the Path. We talked for the entire time and when we arrived at Grove St he spent another 20 minutes talking to me about issues affecting the City. He is indeed a breath of fresh air and seemingly very sincere.

Posted on: 2008/10/22 15:52
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Re: What the hell just happened on Erie Street?!
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I was listening to the scanner last night, and something happened at the light rail station by liberty park, shortly after the incident by Grace church. There were shots fired, and it sounded like from the same group at Grace Church who had moved their party. I even heard that a mother and her 2 children were in the cross fire at the station.

Posted on: 2008/9/14 20:23
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Re: Councilman Steven Fulop - Jersey City Summer 2008 Update
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Councilman Fulop,

How many petitions do you need signed to put your initiatives on the November ballot?

Posted on: 2008/6/15 23:18
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Re: Fulop releases ad pushing ethics reform
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This Video deserves a replay.

Posted on: 2008/4/2 16:50
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Re: Morgan's Corner: Trust Healy's crime stats more than our own eyes? -- "undoubtedly 'good spots'
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I think you could compare the Jersey City crime stats to fine dining where good cooking is expected.

Posted on: 2008/4/2 16:41
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Re: Double-dipping lives on in Hudson -- HUDSON'S DUAL-OFFICE HOLDERS
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I think we should all sign Councilman Fulops pettitions when we see him and his supporters in the street collecting signitures. Remember you must be registered to vote for your signiture to count.

Posted on: 2008/4/2 13:28
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Re: The Jersey City Diner
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Is there public transportation that you could take to this new diner?

Posted on: 2008/4/2 13:24
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Re: Cops, Fulop among 'Polar Bear' brave - Take plunge at Seaside Heights: "It was freaking freezing
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The bottom line is that $ 2,000.00 was raised for the children of the Special Olyimpics by these fine officers of the Jersey City Police Dept and steven Fulop.

Posted on: 2008/3/1 10:54
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Re: Let the Mayoral Campaigning Begin (I've been Push Polled)
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is Steve Lipski still going to run with Healy or has the HCDO gotten rid of him?

Posted on: 2008/3/1 10:50
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Re: BETTERJC.ORG COMMERCIAL #1 on youtube - link
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Could this polar bear be the new aide to the County exectutive replacing Councilman Gaughan? Or, maybe this is the guy that the HCDO is going to run for fulops vacant council seat next year.

Posted on: 2008/2/29 22:39
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Re: BETTERJC.ORG COMMERCIAL #1 on youtube - link
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i think two of them work for the County executive?

Posted on: 2008/2/28 5:19
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Re: BETTERJC.ORG COMMERCIAL #1 on youtube - link
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Ok, just look at the front page of the Jersey Journal today. Several chubby council persons (probably nice guys) and one chunky mayor.

Whats the chances of getting these guys to take the "Polar Plunge" next year

Posted on: 2008/2/27 17:43
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Re: Cops, Fulop among 'Polar Bear' brave - Take plunge at Seaside Heights: "It was freaking freezing
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That was a nice picture in the daily newspaper of Fulop and the cops. They do look really cold don't they?

Posted on: 2008/2/27 17:35
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Re: Cops, Fulop among 'Polar Bear' brave - Take plunge at Seaside Heights: "It was freaking freezing."
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Its nice to see Fulop do something of a charitable nature with Police Officers from Jersey City. Keep it up.

Posted on: 2008/2/26 20:29
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Re: BETTERJC.ORG COMMERCIAL #1 on youtube - link
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Its a pretty funny commercial, however I think maybe tghe clock could have loomed a little larger on the lower left hand corner. Just a little constructive criticism.

Posted on: 2008/2/26 17:15
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Re: BETTERJC.ORG COMMERCIAL #1 on youtube - link
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Looks like the mayoral election has begun.

Posted on: 2008/2/25 1:39
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