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She's referring to this story -- when the MUA board decided to sharply increase the annual fee it gives to the city. At the meeting where this happened, the MUA chair voted no and the deal failed. After he took a phone call, he changed his vote and the deal passed.
Posted on: 4/12 20:54
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Yvonne, you know the MUA is autonomous and not under the control of the Mayor's Office right? Fulop doesn't set the rates that the MUA pays. These rate increases were started by the MUA before Fulop even became mayor.
Hopefully the MUA does give some of that money back though, it's outrageous that they're hiking rates and accumulating money for no reason.
Posted on: 4/12 20:37
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The 2017 introduced Jersey City budget was $572 million but according to the 2018 budget the city actually took in $616 million. Some of that money became surplus but it only goes to show that Fulop did not need the MUA surplus, money that should have been returned to ratepayers. The 2018 budget shows an increase of one million for a new program in Administration called Innovation. The budget hearing was on April 11th. It is now the council's budget so I hope they start cutting because spending has increased greatly since Fulop became mayor, over $100 million since Healy was mayor. That is a $100 million more on the backs of downtown homeowners with this new reval.
Posted on: 4/12 18:11
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Take a breath and re-read. It's not at all like the analogy you pose. He directly benefits from something he's identified as not only wrong but harming others. Yes, he should by all means advocate for a fix and try to effect change. But:
1) other than burping on here about it six times a day, I don't think he's really trying to do anything. 2) He doesn't believe things are changeable here (he constantly drones on about how local democratic rule prevents anything good from happening, ever.) 3.) The analogous people to whom you refer aren't benefiting from Trump's policies. They are working to change things that are harmful, either to themselves or others. Quote:
Posted on: 3/20 14:17
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100% accurate and correct on how abatements are abused. While many continue to push the myth that abatements are a free ride for residents paying PILOTs, the accurate view is that abatements are used by the city to hide/mask increased spending by enabling them to not raise the municipal budget while allowing for higher spending due to their being able to pocket almost the entirety of PILOT payments. The only surprise (to me) is that the county administrators, and the administrations of the other municipalities in Hudson county, have sat idly by while JC abuses this system. Imagine how much lower taxes could be for the county if abatements were not given out like candy.
Posted on: 3/20 14:09
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I agree that school funding is the same disaster it was before and after this administration took office .... but, you know as well as anyone, the machinations that this administration has done to keep the city portion of taxes flat while increasing spending by continuing to give out abatements (PILOTS) so the city keeps the portion of taxes from new development that would go to the schools (under funding the schools) for itself and raiding the JCMUA.
and what services have been improved? Quote:
Posted on: 3/20 13:12
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Posted on: 3/20 10:52
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Of course we can have it both ways. Didn't you see that episode of South Park (S7 E1 I'm a little bit country)? Saying one thing and doing another is one of the founding principles of our great nation.
Posted on: 3/20 10:40
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What? By that logic, all liberals are more morally compromised than conservatives, and all should leave the country, instead of actively opposing the president and the policies they find morally abhorrent. You can't have it both ways: either you are in favor of people calling out the things they find reprehensible and help bring about change, or they should just leave. But, here is the rub: sooner or later you will run out of places to which you can escape, as no place on Earth is perfect. Not even the factionalized utopia of Scandinavia that gives some liberals a fat chubby.
Posted on: 3/20 10:18
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Your one note opera rings a little flat here. How is that fact different than when he took over? It isn't. The point is, he has improved services while holding taxes flat over an extended period of time.
Frankly, I find you even more morally compromised than those you accuse. You truly believe this is a problem and continue to benefit from it. If it bothered you so much you would, at a minimum, leave. Quote:
Posted on: 3/20 9:44
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$588M 2018 budget proposed for Jersey CityJERSEY CITY — The City Council last week introduced a $588 million municipal budget for 2018, a plan that comes as residents hit by results of the property revaluation are clamoring for major spending cuts. The budget total is largely unchanged from the one adopted in 2017, and that may not be enough for residents facing reval-related tax increases later this year. At a meeting about the reval at Casa Colombo in February, one resident demanded the city reconsider how it spends "every penny." http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... osed_for_jersey_city.html
Posted on: 3/19 17:33
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Any NJ who pays sales tax, or takes Uber, or who uses or rents with Airbnb . . . But at least you're all understanding who pays for $500 million a year of JC school costs.
And again, the 3% who pay 2/3 of NJ income taxes don't live in Abbot Districts mostly. And 1/3 of JC, and other towns like Elizabeth, are UEZ zoned-where the sales tax is halved, reducing NJ tax coffers!
Posted on: 3/17 21:05
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So that should put to rest any claim that Murphy's income tax increase will hurt all New Jerseyans. A limited number of people who can easily afford to pay it, will pay it.
Posted on: 3/17 20:46
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So what? Income is taxed based on where it is earned, not what enclave the earner retreats to at night. I have a solo practice where I work in NYC but also work a lot from home in NJ. I have to allocate income based on where I earn it. Some of those wealthy suburbanites, if they work in NYC, don't pay NJ state income tax at all. Much more income tax and other revenues are generated in urban areas like Newark and Jersey City. Urban areas subsidize the suburbs.
Posted on: 3/17 20:45
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You know Robin Hood was the hero in that story, right? Taking from the rich and giving to the poor is usually interpreted as a good thing. Christ.
Posted on: 3/17 20:34
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And NJ.com noted today that the top 3% earners pay an incredible 2/3 of NJ income taxes! Wanna take a guess where those people live? Not Newark, JC, Camden, or Paterson.
Posted on: 3/17 20:17
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JC pays for 17%. Newark 11%. East Orange 9%. Millburn, Mendham, Livingston, Kinnelon all cover 86%. Princeton, 79%. Bernards, 74%. NJ is Robin Hood, taking from the rich and funding schools like JC that overspend and underdeliver. Of course the suburbs fund it, although the check gets washed through Trenton.
Posted on: 3/17 19:11
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It's state funds. Not suburban funds.
Posted on: 3/17 17:24
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There is always a difference between an introduced budget and an adopted budget. The adopted budget is much higher. So, I expect that number to increase not decrease.
Posted on: 3/17 9:59
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I'm blissfully happy except when loved ones are ill.
Posted on: 3/16 20:39
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Monroe, is there anything in life that would make you happy?
Posted on: 3/16 19:57
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What tune would he be singing if he wasn't getting a half billion a year from suburban taxpayers to pay for his schools??
Posted on: 3/16 18:46
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Jersey City Council to introduce $587 million budget with zero tax increaseBy John Heinis/Hudson County View “Jersey City is one of the few municipalities that has seen stable taxes every single year while increasing and enhancing city services the way that we have,” Mayor Steven Fulop said in a statement. “Our City serves as proof that cities can be both fiscally responsible and socially progressive. This balance has been one of our major priorities, and as we start a second term, I promise to continue to move our City forward while focusing on long-term budgeting and management.” https://hudsoncountyview.com/jersey-ci ... t-with-zero-tax-increase/
Posted on: 3/16 17:57
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