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Oh I'm glad too this is back on the main board! How did your pioneers make out - which route did they take from the Grove St. Path? I'm on the edge of my seat waiting to hear what they thought of Jersey City. And which suggestion did you take? Did your NYC guests walk up Manila? Or did they take the much more picturesque stroll up Newark and then Erie? Or did you pick them up in Hamilton Park? Were they impressed with Jersey City? Were they happy?? What did they say?? What did they say???? Please follow up I believe we all wish to know!

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You're not comparing apples to apples. It's more expensive in JC because he's upgrading his living space.


That's right; but the original poster didn't claim they were paying more in JC for the same thing. They just said it is costing them significantly more to live here than it did for them to live in Manhattan.


Sure. But if your tastes were expensive enough, you could buy a castle in Kansas for more than you could buy an apartment in Manhattan. I don't think these one-off examples reveal much about the cost of living between these two areas.

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You're not comparing apples to apples. It's more expensive in JC because he's upgrading his living space.


That's right; but the original poster didn't claim they were paying more in JC for the same thing. They just said it is costing them significantly more to live here than it did for them to live in Manhattan.

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It actually costs me MUCH more to live here than it did in Manhattan




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What is hard to believe about that? Owning a brownstone in JC would be much, much more expensive than renting a 1-bedroom or a 2-bedroom in Manhattan. Or renting a 1-2 bedroom in JC is more expensive than renting a share in a 3 bedroom unit in Manhattan.


You're not comparing apples to apples. It's more expensive in JC because he's upgrading his living space.

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It actually costs me MUCH more to live here than it did in Manhattan




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What is hard to believe about that? Owning a brownstone in JC would be much, much more expensive than renting a 1-bedroom or a 2-bedroom in Manhattan. Or renting a 1-2 bedroom in JC is more expensive than renting a share in a 3 bedroom unit in Manhattan.

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so what did your friends think of our provincial town?

Late to this post, but I'm curious too - how did things work out? I ask because I've had friends out to the Heights on several occasions, and did everything I could to make it as painless as possible (stayed in phone contact the whole time - "no, don't be afraid of the drag queen on Franklin Street...", fed and plied them with Cosmos) and they STILL refuse to come back. Hope you all a great visit!

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I dunno I still say pick them up in your car and motor off to your primary home in Essex county in Maplewood, Montclair, or South Orange or perhaps weekend at your country farm upstate. I mean you do have a country farm upstate, right? Anyone here that is anybody has one - 4 hours up and 4 hours back in your SUV. Treat your city folk to all of those organic veggies that you grow. Roast a pig perhaps. Then just come back to JC for coffee or something. ( I'm sorry...I just cannot resist this thread....it is such a riot!!!!!!!)

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16. Go on a tour of a bespoke meth factory.

17. Consider purchasing a time share in one of the many projects.


18. Put gang tags on the Statue of Liberty for a more authentic experience.

19. Dumpster dive only at restaurants with a plexi-glass, pay window.

20. Spend way too much money buying candy from 30 year old thugs so they have a chance to field their high school basketball, football, soccer, baseball, cricket, chess.....teams.

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Perhaps a photo with that lovely downtown couple, oh, what is their name, Pocco and Pacci - something like that. You know the guy that pushes the woman around in a shopping cart. I consider then a town treasure and they make me smile every time I see them blocking traffic in the middle of the street.

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To the OP: Sorry if my comment came off as defensive or angry, because yeah, that's as annoying as the JC self-hate. And I do get your point about the 5-borough snobbery; I was in Fort Greene yesterday and thought "wait, what? Housing projects, factories, the BQE....this is so much fancier than Jersey City? ".

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Maintain the myth.

1. Tell them not to wear any metal - Metal detectors at every train station

2. Bring bottled water - Water is very dodgy here

3. Wear a waist money belt - pick pockets everywhere

4. Don't wear a watch, rings or jewelry

5. Wear comfortable shoes you can run in - quick get away

6. Don't wash and wear smelly clothes to blend in

7. Use a black marker and color in one of your front teeth

8. They need to call ahead, so you and the neighbors can escort them to your house from the station

9. Tell them to carry some pepper / bear repellent / spray

10. They must come and go in daylight to avoid zombie acting locals


11. Brush up on their knife fighting skills just in case.

12. Bring a large bag of change to give to the hordes of homeless - just throw some in the air as a diversion and then run.

13. Register with the police in advance to make it easier to ID their bodies in event of an "incident"

14. Make sure their dental records are backed up on cloud storage in case they are found decomposed in the hudson river

15. Bring a stash of antibiotics, take one every time you visit.

This is fun.

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so what did your friends think of our provincial town?


Oh, yes, do tell us the fair New Yorkers were impressed with our humble ville! I was sure to be on my best behavior today, knowing there'd be a chance the OP's great friends might be walking about, inspecting our homes and manners.

The thought that such fair people from the paradise on the opposite bank would grace us with their brief visit, and that we might earn their esteem brings my heart such joy!

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so what did your friends think of our provincial town?

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Maintain the myth.

1. Tell them not to wear any metal - Metal detectors at every train station

2. Bring bottled water - Water is very dodgy here

3. Wear a waist money belt - pick pockets everywhere

4. Don't wear a watch, rings or jewelry

5. Wear comfortable shoes you can run in - quick get away

6. Don't wash and wear smelly clothes to blend in

7. Use a black marker and color in one of your front teeth

8. They need to call ahead, so you and the neighbors can escort them to your house from the station

9. Tell them to carry some pepper / bear repellent / spray

10. They must come and go in daylight to avoid zombie acting locals

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I feel you. Hamilton Park is one of the prettiest places in the entire area, though, so you have that to sustain you. Have fun with your pals, and have them walk over on Erie, which has a lot to recommend it. LOL, imagine being smug when you live in Sunset Park.


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...I can't believe that any "snark" came across in my original post?! I bought a home here over 3 years ago and LOVE it! It actually costs me MUCH more to live here than it did in Manhattan. I CHOSE to live here and am VERY happy to be out of Manhattan. I posed my question because I just want my in-the-darkness, clueless Manhattan/NYC outer borough friends to get the best impression of DTJC and share my sentiments? Is that so wrong!? (Sorry-but for the past 3 years, I've been getting innumerable contemptuous quips from anyone I know from NYC (not just my Manhattan friends - but, more annoyingly from the Astoria/Bushwick/Bay Ridge/Sunset Park/Dyker Heights crowd - which, in and of itself, I know, is ridiculous). Mapquest leads anyone that types in my address straight down Manila - which, as many others have agreed, is NOT the best representation of DTJC. Sorry if I offended anyone, I guess I just wanted these detractors I speak of to see DTJC for all of it's glory. For all of you that provided nice suggestions - thank you. For all the others, stop being so d*mn angry all the time (the angry undercurrent on JCList is a big turnofff). Also, I'm not sure why my original post was included in the "crime and safety" forum - but that wasn't my intention, either myself or the administrator made some type of mistake.

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...I can't believe that any "snark" came across in my original post?! I bought a home here over 3 years ago and LOVE it! It actually costs me MUCH more to live here than it did in Manhattan. I CHOSE to live here and am VERY happy to be out of Manhattan. I posed my question because I just want my in-the-darkness, clueless Manhattan/NYC outer borough friends to get the best impression of DTJC and share my sentiments? Is that so wrong!? (Sorry-but for the past 3 years, I've been getting innumerable contemptuous quips from anyone I know from NYC (not just my Manhattan friends - but, more annoyingly from the Astoria/Bushwick/Bay Ridge/Sunset Park/Dyker Heights crowd - which, in and of itself, I know, is ridiculous). Mapquest leads anyone that types in my address straight down Manila - which, as many others have agreed, is NOT the best representation of DTJC. Sorry if I offended anyone, I guess I just wanted these detractors I speak of to see DTJC for all of it's glory. For all of you that provided nice suggestions - thank you. For all the others, stop being so d*mn angry all the time (the angry undercurrent on JCList is a big turnofff). Also, I'm not sure why my original post was included in the "crime and safety" forum - but that wasn't my intention, either myself or the administrator made some type of mistake.

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Is it because VVP is more conveniently located for the reason why it has been mentioned so many times?

Newport green is a better park - in terms of cleanliness, aesthetics, and views of NYC.


I disagree - I think VVP is about as clean and has a lot more charm than Newport green (which is nice in it's own right, moreso in the summer when you can put your feet in the warm sand). VVP is trying to get recognized as a botanical garden - there are dozens of different flowers, trees, bushes, etc. - whereas Newport green has that weird astroturf on the park part, makes it seem like something out of that movie The Truman Show where an entire town is really a TV set. Obviously the carousel is a plus for NG but it is only open limited hours.


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Just pick them up in your car and drive out to Montclair for a nice dinner?

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If friends are driving or coming on the PATH train I always send them to Google Maps and tell them to put in my address and print out the map.

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Weirder than asking for directions to your own home in order to help people who are pessimistic about visiting? Everybody has a different notion of "weird" I suppose.


Yeah this was an odd query. When I have friends visiting from anywhere out of town I just meet them where they are parked or where they get off the subway. Then I give them a little tour of whatever might interest them. Typically that includes Van Vorst park, grove street from grand to newark, and then the first part of Newark ave (usually I'll take them to eat at Skinners). If there's a farmer's market, art fair, etc. I'll show them that too.


Sure, I get that the OP's wording inspired the snark, I just meant that I don't think the underlying sentiment of wanting to figure out the best, clearest way to direct people is that crazy. (When my husband gives directions to our place he always forgets to tell people which stairs to come up, and more than one has ended up going through the tunnel to the other PATH entrance down Columbus and then being really confused about how to get back to where they're supposed to be.)

I also didn't understand all of the people suggesting tours of JC - if I'm having friends over for brunch or whatever, I don't feel compelled to prove that my neighborhood is cool by showing them around for half an hour first. (Of course, my NYC friends are more than willing to come to JC more than once, so I don't need to show them everything the first time.) It just seemed funny that people were giving the OP a hard time for not having enough JC pride and then bending over backwards to prove that JC is full of beautiful, hip awesomeness. I guess I just like my moves a little smoother - no need to hit me with every play all at once. ;)

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Is it because VVP is more conveniently located for the reason why it has been mentioned so many times?

Newport green is a better park - in terms of cleanliness, aesthetics, and views of NYC.

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Weirder than asking for directions to your own home in order to help people who are pessimistic about visiting? Everybody has a different notion of "weird" I suppose.


Yeah this was an odd query. When I have friends visiting from anywhere out of town I just meet them where they are parked or where they get off the subway. Then I give them a little tour of whatever might interest them. Typically that includes Van Vorst park, grove street from grand to newark, and then the first part of Newark ave (usually I'll take them to eat at Skinners). If there's a farmer's market, art fair, etc. I'll show them that too.

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Weirder than asking for directions to your own home in order to help people who are pessimistic about visiting? Everybody has a different notion of "weird" I suppose.

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...so, I live in Hamilton Park. I'm inviting some anti-JC friends from Manhattan to come visit (lived in Manhattan for 10 years and NO ONE can understand why I left (of course - I do, but......). What kind of directions do I give them so they have a pleasant walk to my house on 7th from Grove Street PATH station (I live on 7th between Erie & Manila)? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!


It's weird to me where this thread went. I feel it's just common courtesy to give friends a heads up when they're coming to a new subway stop - especially in non-grid parts of town. My friends and I do this all the time (for lower Manhattan, Brooklyn, JC, etc.) Doesn't mean we hate our neighborhoods, just that we understand it's easy to get turned around when arriving at a station for the first time. (And you look like an a-hole - or worse, a tourist - if you have to stand there with your smartphone blocking the flow of pedestrian traffic while you orient yourself.)

My Grove PATH directions for people coming from the NYC side (slightly edited to fit the OP's location) are:

Come up from the platform using the stairs toward the front of the train. Look for the escalator and continue up to the street on that side. You'll come up into a plaza, facing Duane Reade. Turn left to face Newark Avenue and cross Grove Street at the light (stay on the right side of Newark). Walk one block on Newark and make the first right onto Erie. Cross Bay and then 1,2,3 etc. When you hit 7th, cross (or don't cross) and turn right. We're at #123, top buzzer.

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Are your friends the Duke and Duchess of Windsor?? This kind of Jersey City self-hating makes me crazy. 30 years ago much of Manhattan was a crime-infested pit; only newcomers and tourists think it was always the glittery Disneyland it's now become. Tell them to get off the damn PATH and walk over. Bring beer.

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What kind of directions do I give them so they have a pleasant walk to my house on 7th from Grove Street PATH station (I live on 7th between Erie & Manila)? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!


If they have a sense of humor tell them, ?Follow the rose petals.? If not, tell them, ?Follow the rose petals... you jackasses.?

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Are your friends the Duke and Duchess of Windsor?? This kind of Jersey City self-hating makes me crazy. 30 years ago much of Manhattan was a crime-infested pit; only newcomers and tourists think it was always the glittery Disneyland it's now become. Tell them to get off the damn PATH and walk over. Bring beer.

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Second, use some common sense. Meet them at the Path and take them around....or provide them with directions....there are hundreds of map sites. Sheesh!

+1 yeah they must be from Nebraska LOL

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