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Re: noise ordinance neighbor issues?
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any suggestions on neighbors from the bowels of hell? Deliberate, stomping & slamming doors in the common areas. I've pretty much done all the things to address the issue (i.e., politely speaking to the neighbors (that only caused it to escalate), complained to the Super & Management (all I received was a bunch lip service & it became apparent early on during this conflict that they were biased (I assume it's due to the fact it's family with a child), hired an atty (withheld rent & filed a harassment charge) all of which went nowhere, called the police too many times to mention (in all fairness the majority of officers have been courteous when responding but there are a bunch of nasty apples in the local precinct), on at least two occasions the harassment activity has been observed by the police but when their observations or comments have been referenced during legal action the officers develop amnesia, gathered letters of complaint & observations from other tenants.

Management is clearly in cahoots with these neighbors so trying to get management to address the problem has been futile.

The JC ordinance & how it's enforced needs to be revisited specifically when it comes to harassment activity observed & authenticated by the police.

Also, let me add that the courts are also biased with these issues when it involves families with children. The line of excessive noise created by adults and children seems to be non-existent.

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I’m wondering if there’s any rules when it comes to businesses utilizing backyards within the property.. One would think there’s some noise ordinance in place after a certain time?



[Not sure which forum to put this in, please mods move it to the appropriate forum]

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Get some blood and bone fertilizer or horse manure for your garden or large pot plants............no more noise and a fantastic garden out back !

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Thanks everyone for the feedback.

My issue is unfortunately related to my neighbors who party every weekend in their backyard in the summer. Continual loud music and yelling practically all night. This past weekend they were so bold as to have a full blown DJ booth. The police show up to quiet them at least twice a night, but it doesn't seem to stop them.

Since calling the police doesn't help. Any suggestions?

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Years ago, we had noise issues in a condo building. If the building is so poorly constructed that you hear everything going on above you or next door, you need professional help. We hired Acoustilog (acoustilog.com) to analyze our situation. Then got a contractor to carry out the rcommendations. I can't remember how we got to that company in the first place, but it was well worth it. Some small fixes made a really big difference.

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What attempts are people making to soundproof their homes ?
I often have a quiet giggle when I see some homes.....There would be better soundproofing qualities in a tent then what I have seen of recent construction!

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That's a subject that has been covered ad nauseum on this site. Just search 'noise'.

Here is a link to the municipal code, thanks to Vigilante, who posted this link in one of many other threads. You will want to start at section 222.
JC municipal code



lol......

good luck trying to find someone to enforce it....



That's why JC/Hudson Cnty government is ground zero for "pay to play"

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That's a subject that has been covered ad nauseum on this site. Just search 'noise'.

Here is a link to the municipal code, thanks to Vigilante, who posted this link in one of many other threads. You will want to start at section 222.
JC municipal code



lol......

good luck trying to find someone to enforce it....


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That's a subject that has been covered ad nauseum on this site. Just search 'noise'.

Here is a link to the municipal code, thanks to Vigilante, who posted this link in one of many other threads. You will want to start at section 222.
JC municipal code

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Does anyone know where I can get a copy of the Jersey City Noise Ordinance?

Thanks!

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Definitions.

As used in this chapter, the following terms shall have the meanings indicated:

CHILD - Any person under the age of 17 years.

GUARDIAN - A person, other than a parent, to whom legal custody of a child has been given by court order or who is acting in the place of a parent or is responsible for the care and welfare of a child.

OPERATOR OF A BUSINESS ESTABLISHMENT - Any person who operates, manages or controls any place of amusement or entertainment, any store or shop, any tavern, saloon, cafe or restaurant or any other commercial or business establishment or place.

PUBLIC PLACES - Any place to which the public has access, including but not limited to a public street, road, thoroughfare, sidewalk, bridge, alley, plaza, park, recreation or shopping area, public transportation facility, vehicle used for public transportation, parking lot or any other public building, structure or area. This definition includes restaurants, taverns, cafes, stores and any other place that has business invitees.


§ 137-2. - Duties of children.

A.
It shall be unlawful for any child to be in any public place between the hours of 10:30 p.m. and 6:00 a.m. of the following day unless such child is accompanied by a parent or guardian or unless such child is engaged in, or traveling to or from, a business or occupation which the laws of this state authorize children to perform.

B.
It shall be unlawful for any child under the age of 17 years to be in any public place on any school day during the hours in which such child's school is in session, unless such child is accompanied by a parent or guardian or unless he or she has been excused from school by school authorities.

§ 137-3. - Duties of parents, guardians and operators of business establishments.

A.
Duties of parents and guardians.


(1)
It shall be unlawful for any parent or guardian of a child to permit the minor to be in any public place between 10:30 p.m. and 6:00 a.m. the following day unless the minor is accompanied by a parent or guardian.



(2)
It shall be unlawful for any parent or guardian to allow or permit any child under the age of 17 years to be in or upon any public place at any time during the hours in which said child's school is in session, unless such child is accompanied by a parent or guardian or unless said child has been officially excused from attendance at such school by the school authorities.


B.
Duties of operators of business establishments.


(1)
It shall be unlawful for any operator of a business establishment or the agent or employees of the operator to knowingly permit any child to remain upon the premises of the establishment between 10:30 p.m. and 6:00 a.m. the following day unless such child is accompanied by a parent or guardian.



(2)
It shall be unlawful for any operator of a business establishment to allow or permit any child under the age of 17 years to be in or upon such business establishment at any time during the hours in which such child's school is in session, unless such child is accompanied by a parent or guardian or unless such child has been officially excused from attendance at such school by the school authorities.


§ 137-4. - Enforcement.

A.
Any police officer upon finding a child in violation of § 137-2 shall take the child into protective custody and transport the child to the Curfew Center. Once at the Center, the child's parent or guardian will be contacted to allow the child to be taken home. Both the child and the parent will be counseled at the Curfew Center by community leaders and police officers concerning the provisions of the Jersey City curfew as it relates to the protection of children. The child and the parent will also be advised that a second violation of the Curfew Ordinance will make the parent and child also liable for a minimum fine of $100, a maximum fine as provided in Chapter 1, General Provisions, § 1-25. Before releasing the child, the Police Department may request the parent or guardian to submit an appropriate form of identification and sign an appropriate authorization.

B.
If the Curfew Center is full or otherwise unavailable, any police officer upon finding a child in violation of § 137-2 may ascertain the name and address of such child and warn the child that he or she is in violation of the curfew and shall direct the child to proceed at once to his or her home or usual place of abode. The police officer shall report such action to the Juvenile Division of the Police Department which shall in the case of the first violation by a child send by certified mail to the parents or guardians of the child written notice of the violation with a warning that a second violation will result in the parent and child being liable for community service and that, for a subsequent violation, the parent and child will also be liable for a minimum fine of $100, a maximum fine as provided in Chapter 1, General Provisions, § 1-25, as well as community service.

C.
The provisions of this section shall not limit the power of the Police Department to charge parents, guardians or the operators of business establishments with violations of this chapter pursuant to § 137-3.

§ 137-5. - Violations and penalties.

A.
Any parent or guardian found guilty of violating this chapter after receiving a warning in accordance with § 137-4 shall be liable for community service. Any subsequent violation of the provisions of this chapter shall also make the parent and child liable for a minimum fine of $100 and a maximum fine as provided in Chapter 1, General Provisions, § 1-25. If both a child and a child's parent or guardian violate this chapter, they shall be required to perform community service together.

B.
Any operator of a business found guilty of violating the provisions of this chapter shall be liable to:


(1)
A minimum fine of $100 and a maximum fine as provided in Chapter 1, General Provisions, § 1-25;



(2)
Community service; or



(3)
Both a fine and community service.


C.
Names of parents, guardians or business operators who defiantly violate the provisions of this chapter may be published in a newspaper of general circulation within the City of Jersey City. A parent, guardian or business operator shall be considered a defiant violator if he or she is found guilty of three or more violations of this chapter.

§ 137-6. - Exceptions.

The provisions of this chapter shall not apply in the following situations:


A.
If a child is engaged in errands involving medical emergencies or attending extracurricular school activities or other cultural, educational and social events sponsored by religious or community-based organizations after 10:30 p.m. and before 6:00 a.m.



B.
If the child is accompanied by an adult authorized by a parent to accompany the minor for a designated period of time and specific purpose within a specific area.



C.
If the child is on the sidewalk of his or her residence or on the sidewalk of a next-door neighbor, so long as the neighbor does not object to the minor's presence on the sidewalk.



D.
(Reserved)



E.
(Reserved)



F.
(Reserved)



G.
The minor carries a certified card of employment or is on the way to or from a place of employment.



H.
The minor is in a motor vehicle with parental consent from normal travel, either intra- or interstate, through the City of Jersey City.



I.
The minor carries on his or her person a special permit from the Chief of Police authorized as follows: when necessary nighttime activities of a minor may be inadequately provided for by other provisions of this chapter recourse may be had to the Chief of Police, either for a regulation as provided in Subsection J or for a special permit as the circumstances warrant: upon the findings of necessity for the use of the streets to the extent warranted by a written application signed by a minor and by a parent of the minor, if feasible, stating the name, age and address of the minor; the name, address and telephone number of a parent thereof; the height, weight, sex, color of eyes and hair and other physical characteristics of the minor; the necessity which requires the minor to be present on the public streets; and the beginning and ending of the period of time involved by date and hour. The Chief of Police may grant a permit in writing for the use by the minor of streets at such hours as in the opinion of the Chief of Police may reasonably be necessary. In an emergency this may be accomplished by telephone or other effective communication, with a corresponding record being made contemporaneously by the Chief of Police or to the person designated by the Chief of Police to act on his or her behalf in an emergency, at the police station.



J.
There exists a regulation issued by the Chief of Police in other similar cases of reasonable necessity, similarly handled but adapted to necessary nighttime activities of more minors than can readily be dealt with on an individual special permit basis. Such regulation by the Chief of Police permitting use of the streets should be issued sufficiently in advance to permit appropriate publicity through news media and through other agencies such as the schools. It shall define the activity, the scope of the use of the streets permitted, the period of time involved, not to extend more than thirty (30) minutes beyond the time for termination of the activity, and the reason for finding that the regulation is reasonably necessary and is consistent with the purposes of this chapter.



§ 137-7. - Severability.

Severability is intended throughout and within the provisions of the Curfew Ordinance. If any provision, including any exemption, part, phrase or term or the application thereof to any person or circumstance, is held invalid, the application to other persons or circumstances shall not be affected thereby and the validity of the Curfew Ordinance in any and all other respects shall not be affected thereby. Additional exemptions to be included under § 137-6 will be considered by City Council as warranted by future experience illuminated by the views of student government associations, school personnel, citizens, associations, parents, officers and persons in authority concerned positively with minors as well as with juvenile delinquency. The Police Department shall be responsible to make periodic reviews of the practical aspects of enforcement and interpretation of this chapter, including the need for clarification or relaxation of any term or provision contained herein as well as the need for continued or discontinued curfew regulations. Whenever, in the opinion of the City Attorney or of any court, the application of this chapter to a particular act or activity of a minor is unclear or ambiguous, the less restrictive interpretation shall be deemed to be the intent of the chapter.

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§ 222-1. - Findings; policy.

A.
The making and creation of loud, unnecessary or unusual noises within the City of Jersey City is a condition which has existed for some time and the extent and volume of such noises is increasing.

B.
The making, creating or maintenance of loud, unnecessary, unnatural or unusual noises which are prolonged, unusual and unnatural in their time, place and use affect and are a detriment to public health, comfort, convenience, safety, welfare and prosperity of the residents of the city.

C.
The necessity in the public interest for the provisions and prohibitions hereinafter enacted is declared as a matter of legislative determination and public policy, and it is further declared that the provisions and prohibitions hereinafter enacted are in pursuance of and for the purpose of securing and promoting the public health, comfort, convenience, safety, welfare and prosperity and the peace and quiet of the city and its inhabitants.

§ 222-2. - General standards.

A.
No person shall make, continue or cause to be made or continued any loud, unnecessary or unusual noise or any noise which either annoys, disturbs, injures or endangers the comfort, repose, health, peace or safety of others.

B.
No person on property owned by him or her or under lease or other arrangements shall allow or give permission to any person on the property to utter or make loud, unnecessary or unusual noises or any noise which either annoys, disturbs, injures or endangers the comfort, repose, health, peace or safety of others.

§ 222-3. - Specific standards. [Amended 9-22-1981 by Ord. No. MC-29; 6-9-1988 by Ord. No. C-750]

A.
The following acts and noises are declared to be loud, disturbing and unnecessary noises in violation of this Article, but this enumeration shall be deemed to be illustrative only and not an exclusive enumeration of such noises:


(1)
Horns and signaling devices.


(a)
The sounding of any horn or signaling device on any automobile, motorcycle, public conveyance or other vehicle on any street or public place of the city, except as a danger warning.



(b)
The creation by means of any such signaling device of any unreasonably loud or harsh sound.



(c)
The sounding of any such device for an unnecessary and unreasonable period of time.



(d)
The uses of any horn, whistle or other device operated by engine exhausts.




(2)
Radios, tape players, compact disc players, phonographs, amplified musical instruments, motor vehicle sound systems and similar devices. Playing or permitting the playing of any radio, tape player, compact disc player, phonograph, amplified musical instrument, motor vehicle sound system or similar device:


(a)
In such a manner as to create a noise disturbance across real property boundaries or within a noise sensitive zone.



(b)
When played in any motor vehicle, in such a manner as to create a noise disturbance outside the vehicle or as to be plainly audible at a distance of fifty (50) feet.



(c)
When played in any motor vehicle in such a manner as to create a sound level of sixty-five (65) decibels on the A-scale as read by the slow response of a sound level meter when read at the curbline of the adjoining street from 7 a.m. to 10 p.m. or in such a manner as to produce sound which is plainly audible to anyone other than occupants of the motor vehicle between 10 p.m. and 7 a.m.



(d)
When played on any street or sidewalk, playground, school, park or common area of any building, in such a manner so as to create a noise disturbance.



(e)
When played by any passenger on a common carrier, in such a manner as to be heard by any other passenger.



(f)
When played in any residential neighborhood so as to produce sixty-five (65) decibels on the A-scale as read by the slow response of a sound level meter when measured at a distance of twenty-five (25) feet or at the next adjoining full property line between the hours of 7 a.m. and 10 p.m. or when played between the hours of 10 p.m. and 7 a.m. on any street, playground, school, park, or common area of any building in such a manner as to be heard by anyone other than the operator of the device.




(3)
Loudspeakers, amplifiers for advertising. The using, operating or permitting to be played, used or operated of any radio receiving set, musical instrument, phonograph, loudspeaker, sound amplifier or other machine or device for the producing or reproducing of sound which is cast upon the public streets for the purpose of advertising or attracting the attention of the public to any building or structure without the prior written authorization of the Health Officer, or his or her designee, upon such terms as will not impair public health as determined by the Health Officer using reasonable standards; except that no loudspeaker or amplifier may be used or operated upon any street or from any building or vehicle for the purpose of advertising or attracting the attention of the public from 9:30 p.m. to 10:00 a.m. the following day on Monday through Saturday and from 9:30 p.m. on Saturday to 10:00 a.m. the following Monday.


[Amended 8-18-1988 by Ord. No. C-792]

(4)
Exhausts. The discharge into the open air of the exhaust of any steam engine, stationary internal combustion engine, motorboat or motor vehicle, except through a muffler or other device which will effectively prevent loud or explosive noises therefrom.

(5)
Defect in vehicle load or vehicle. The use of any automobile, motorcycle or vehicle so out of repair, so loaded or in such condition as to create loud and unnecessary grating, grinding, rattling or other noise.

(6)
Construction, repair or alteration of buildings. The erection (including excavation), demolition, alteration or repair of any building other than between the hours of 7:00 a.m. and 6:00 p.m. on weekdays, except in case of urgent necessity in the interest of public health and safety, and then only with the permission of the Construction Official. Such a permit may be granted for a period not to exceed three (3) days or less while the emergency continues, and such permit may be renewed for periods of three (3) days or less while the emergency continues. If the Construction Official determines that the public health and safety will not be impaired by the erection, demolition, alteration or repair of any building or the excavation of streets and highways between the hours of 6:00 p.m. and 7:00 a.m., and, if he or she shall further determine that loss or inconvenience would result to any party in interest, he or she may grant permission for such work to be done within the hours of 6:00 p.m. and 7:00 a.m. upon application being made at the time the permit for the work is awarded or during the progress of the work.*

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Editor's Note: Amended at time of adoption of Code; see Ch. 1, General Provisions, Art. I.


(7)
Schools, courts, churches, hospitals. The creation of any excessive noises on any street adjacent to any school, institution of learning, church or court while the same are in use, or adjacent to any hospital, which unreasonably interferes with the workings of such institution or which disturbs or unduly annoys patients in the hospital, provided that conspicuous signs are displayed in such streets indicating it contains a school, hospital or court or church.

(8)
Hawkers, peddlers. The shouting and crying of peddlers, hawkers and vendors which disturb the peace and quiet of the neighborhood.

(9)
Permitting the engine of any vehicle, other than a legally authorized emergency motor vehicle, to idle for longer than three (3) minutes while parking, standing or stopping unless the engine is being used to operate a loading, unloading or processing device.

[Added 11-10-1992 by Ord. No. 92-161]

(10)
Permitting the engine of any bus to idle at a layover or terminal location, whether or not enclosed, when the ambient temperature is forty degrees Fahrenheit (40° F.) or higher. A bus engine shall not be deemed to be idling if the operator is running the engine in order to raise the air pressure so as to release the air brakes; provided, however, that this shall not exceed a period of three (3) minutes.

[Added 11-10-1992 by Ord. No. 92-161]

B.
For the purpose of this section, "noise disturbance" means any sound which endangers or injures the safety or health of humans or animals or disturbs a reasonable person of normal sensitivities.

C.
The following acts are prohibited in the City of Jersey City:


(1)
Possessing or carrying a boom box which is in operation on any street, sidewalk, school, playground or public area.



(2)
Installing or possessing or operating in any motor vehicle garaged in Jersey City a radio, tape player or sound system other than the original equipment in which:


(a)
The number of speakers exceeds four (4);



(b)
Any speaker exceeds six and one-half (61/2) inches in width or height or exceeds one hundred (100) watts in power output; or



(c)
Any speaker is external to the passenger compartment.



D.
"Boom box" means any radio, tape player, compact disc player or loudspeakers, combination of radio, tape player, compact disc player and loudspeakers or similar device which is operated to produce sixty-five (65) decibels on the A-scale as read by the slow response of a sound level meter when measured at twenty-five (25) feet or at the next adjoining full property line, and is:


(1)
Designed to be operated while being transported or carried by a single person;



(2)
Capable of being operated while carried or transported by a single individual; or



(3)
Contains speakers in excess of six and one-half (61/2) inches in width or height or exceeds one hundred (100) watts in power output.E. This section shall not prohibit:


(1)
Any parade or concert or concert practice, provided that the Police Director receives notice at least two (2) days in advance.



(2)
Any event sponsored or conducted by the City of Jersey City, the State of New Jersey or any of their governmental agencies.



(3)
Any event conducted by any block association or civic association, provided that the Police Director receives notice at least two (2) days in advance.



F.
For the purpose of this section, "decibel" is defined as a unit for measuring the volume of a sound, equal to twenty (20) times the logarithm to the base 10 of the ratio of the pressure of the sound measured to the reference pressure, which is twenty (20) micropascals [twenty (20) micronewtons per square meter].

§ 222-4. - Audible burglar alarms. [Added 6-10-1992 by Ord. No. 92-051; amended 12-22-1992 by Ord. No. 92-192; 3-22-1995 by Ord. No. 95-020]

A.
No owner of a motor vehicle shall have in operation an audible burglar alarm thereon unless such burglar alarm shall be capable of and shall automatically terminate its operation within five (5) minutes of its being activated in the case of a motor vehicle. No audible burglar alarm on a motor vehicle shall be capable of being activated unless there is direct physical contact with that motor vehicle. Notwithstanding this provision, any member of the Police Department shall have the right to take such steps as may be necessary to disconnect any such alarm installed on a motor vehicle at any time during the period of its activation.*

Editor's note—

NOTE: The New Jersey Tort Claims Act, N.J.S.A. 59:3-3 immunizes public employees (police officers) where they perform acts in execution and enforcement of any law.


B.
This section shall apply to any motor vehicle on which an audible burglar alarm has been installed when parked on a public highway or parking lot open to the public, and at any other time when the alarm is capable of being activated regardless of when such alarm was installed.

C.
Notwithstanding the provisions of Subsections A and B, any police officer may arrange for the removal of a motor vehicle from a public highway when an audible burglar alarm installed on such vehicle is activated in violation of this section. The owner of the vehicle shall be liable for all fees of removal, including but not limited to the fees for towing and for storage following removal of the vehicle.

D.
All audible burglar alarms which are purchased for use on motor vehicles kept or garaged in the City of Jersey City shall be registered with the Division of Traffic and Street Maintenance within twenty (20) days of purchase of an audible burglar alarm. Forms shall be provided by and obtained with the Division of Traffic and Street Maintenance. A one-time registration fee as provided in Chapter 160, Fees and Charges, shall be collected by the Division of Traffic and Street Maintenance, and a coded decal for identification shall be issued. The list of registered audible alarms shall be forwarded by the Division of Traffic and Street Maintenance to the Police Central Complaint Bureau. Registration shall include the name, address, including apartment number and telephone number of the owner of the vehicle, the make, model and, if applicable, the serial number of the alarm and such other information necessary for the enforcement of this Article. For the purpose of this chapter, it shall be presumed that a vehicle is kept or garaged in the City of Jersey City if it is registered in the name of a resident of the City of Jersey City or an individual who is employed within the City of Jersey City or a business which is located in the City of Jersey City.*

Editor's note—

Editor's Note: Amended at time of adoption of Code; see Ch. 1, General Provisions, Art. I.


E.
Any person who violates any provision of this section or any rule promulgated hereunder shall be liable to a fine of not less than one hundred dollars ($100.) or more as provided in Chapter 1, General Provisions, § 1-25.*

Editor's note—

Editor's Note: Amended at time of adoption of Code; see Ch. 1, General Provisions, Art. I.


§ 222-5. - Violations and penalties.

Any person who violates any provision of this Article, except for § 222-4, upon conviction thereof, shall be punishable as provided in Chapter 1, General Provisions, § 1-25.

Editor's note—

Editor's Note: Amended at time of adoption of Code; see Ch. 1, General Provisions, Art. I.

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i think it is 10pm on weekdays and 12 midnight on weekends.

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what time are we suppose to be quiet?

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Anyone have experience with dealing with a neighbor who has a "race" car with modified muffler? It sets off alarms when ever he goes by? I called the police and they will just send out a cop when his car is there. The officer who answered the phone said they do not have decible meters. I find that hard to believe. How would that ticket stand up in court?

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Do you have a lawyer for your condo association or a management person who might give you some advice? You don't have to put up with stuff like that.



In addition to talking with a lawyer for your condo
group, it can't hurt to go up to the precinct house
on 7th street and meet with someone in the
commander's office. They are often quite
keen on helping out with stuff like this,
which if you just made a phone call to the
547 5477 number, the cops who answer the
call may not be able to do or help much, if at all.
Noise is a tricky thing, and we have noise
ordinance legislation in place, -- but getting it enforced
is not easy, depending on the mood and temper of
the cops who answer the complaint.
Talk to the captain about your problem and
see what he has to say.
Let the rest of us know what happens. We all
potentially have the problem of neighbor noise, and
any tricks you find that work are worth
passing on.

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Do you have a lawyer for your condo association or a management person who might give you some advice? You don't have to put up with stuff like that.

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It is best to get the cops involved if this woman won't see reason. The cops will come out for a noise complaint but probably best to let them know that a threat has been made. It might get them out there faster too. Are you by any chance near Ninth St and Coles St?

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Exactly, the late 70's brought in this trend of built cheap, but make it look good - No hardwood floors - just the veneer, no hardwood skirting boards or double brick homes, hollow core doors, no solid wall plasterwith battens, no heavy curtains only cheap plastic blinds etc etc.

I'm surprised that you can't hear the crapper flush two neighbors down from your condo these days.

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well, this happens to be crap construction from the '80's and most definitely ain't no luxury livin' here!

to add insult to injury this ghetto lady got this sweet deal on short sale so paid way below what she should have paid.

why couldn't we have some awesome, community building, deserving soul?? why why why

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Crap construction = crap sound proofing.

All these new 'luxury' condo's are like ikea furniture - great design, crap materials.

Look at sound proofing your own condo or you'll have a never ending drama on your hands.

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Check your condo by-laws. All condo's generally have to have them for banks to write mortgages against the property.

There is generally a clause about "community areas" and "community standards", which would include noise, etc.

If so, I would write a simple letter with a copy of that section of the condo by-laws and ask for music to be turned down. I find having something in writing makes the most sense in something like this.

If it goes on past midnight, I think that's when you can phone in a noise complaint to the non-emergency JCPD line.

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most bullies are cowards, and sometimes the best way to deal is by out-bullying them. got any large, intimidating friends who'll go and knock on the door and "gently" suggest that they turn the music down?

or perhaps all of the other tenants can band together and blast music at 2am.

childish, I know, but the longer this goes on, the harder it will be to stop, and if the psycho has you cowed on one issue, soon he will run roughshod over your entire building.

(and the neighbor upstairs might want to consider rugs. it's just common courtesy.)

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hey that link is really helpful, thank you. how do we enforce the code though?

OK, so the deal is we have a new neighbor in our little condo building and they are agressive and loud playing music so another neighbor has to leave their home.

It all started because they hear our other neighbor walking on their floor and now the newbie is bullying the building turning up the music everytime somebody goes to the bathroom or whatever.

We have all tried talking to them and got the door slammed in our faces and threats behind the door such as "the next person to knock on my door will get a punch in the face". Nice.

Anyways, so they bought the place and obviously can't be kicked out, and I'm pretty sure the offense isn't enough to get them arrested, but I am sensitive to noise and evil and don't know what is within our rights to do OR-- what is the best way to psych out a psycho.

Any recommendations at all would be hugely helpful.

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§ 222-2. - General standards.

A.
No person shall make, continue or cause to be made or continued any loud, unnecessary or unusual noise or any noise which either annoys, disturbs, injures or endangers the comfort, repose, health, peace or safety of others.
B.
No person on property owned by him or her or under lease or other arrangements shall allow or give permission to any person on the property to utter or make loud, unnecessary or unusual noises or any noise which either annoys, disturbs, injures or endangers the comfort, repose, health, peace or safety of others.


http://library.municode.com/index.asp ... &stateId=30&stateName=New Jersey

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i'm sure this topic has been covered again and again, anyone know what search words I can use to see the threads? I've used 'loud' 'noise' 'neighbors' and a lot of variations with no luck.

thanks in advance for any help.


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