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Once again this morning, one of the escalators at Journal Square was out of service. By my unscientific estimates, that would make this the ONE MILLIONTH time this has happened in the past four years.

I've never seen escalators needing so much service (and I've seen some heavily used and ancient escalators - Moscow, Paris, London, etc). So, does anybody have any idea why the JSQ escalators need so much work? Honestly, it's like 7 times a month.

Are all the escalators in the other PATH stations so pitiful?

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Clearly you haven't taken a Hoboken train "in years" because if you did at rush hour - you would get some fat pig grinding into you. Its just as gross as the JSQ/Newark train. Trust me, I get off at Exchange Place so I have my choice of train and they're equally disgusting....


Thanks, but I'm referring to the 33rd Street lines, not the WTC lines. Those who take these trains daily know what I'm talking about.

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Well, I get you Tommy, I get ON at Journal Square and I would say 70-80% of the time I have to stand all the way to 33rd Street.

I also take the Hoboken train a few times a month and at 5:45 or 6pm, it's pretty crowded at 33rd street but not at all like the JSQ train.

There just aren't enough trains and that probably isn't going to change anytime soon.

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Clearly you haven't taken a Hoboken train "in years" because if you did at rush hour - you would get some fat pig grinding into you. Its just as gross as the JSQ/Newark train. Trust me, I get off at Exchange Place so I have my choice of train and they're equally disgusting....

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OK, what's the deal with the trains from Manhattan to Hoboken being empty in the early evenings, and the Journal Square trains are always packed???

I board at 23rd street, usually between 6 and 7 pm on weekdays. Hoboken train comes by...almost empty in the first couple of cars! JSQ train comes by...packed to the gills!

What gives? If Port Authority wants to save some money, they should limit the frequency of trains to Hoboken. Or (even better, but will never happen)...INCREASE the number of JSQ trains. The differential in ridership between the JSQ train and Hoboken train is remarkable.

What's happening...is it just that JC has boomed over the last couple of years?


Tommy, do a comparison of the population of both places. Now does it make sense to you? They already run more trains to JC. There's just a lot more people there.


Right, then they should run even more JSQ trains then. It's not right that the Hoboken twits can spread out onto 4 seats, while we are crammed in going to JSQ. It just doesn't make any sense...isn't Port Authority aware of this discrepancy in ridership? They should either decrease the Hoboken trains or increase the JSQ trains...it's not that difficult to see that something needs to be done. If I was going to Hoboken, I would get a seat every - single - day. Instead, I haven't gotten a seat on the ride home in YEARS.

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Gotta agree with auilix on this thread. I have been very happy with the PATH overall. I've been commuting from Grove St. to 14th for almost 3 years. The PATH has only made me late for work once, and that was the day the NYC subways were flooded and not running at all. I very rarely am not able to board a train in the morning (although I can see how I might be more frustrated going to WTC). My commute is cheaper and shorter than my coworkers in Brooklyn, Queens, and UWS/UES. I use nynj.net to time the path on the weekends so I am not waiting for 20 mins. Has anyone relied on the MTA during the weekend? I recall waiting up to an hour multiple times for the subway when I lived uptown. Its terrible and construction is always diverting certain lines. The PATH certainly has its frustrations and communication issues, but I think they are comparable to any other mass transit system in the country.


+1.

While I can complain endlessly about the annoying backpack wearers and the people who decide to bring their smelly breakfast on the train, I have come to accept public transportation as a system fraught with potential for problems, and all things considered, we have it pretty good.

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OK, what's the deal with the trains from Manhattan to Hoboken being empty in the early evenings, and the Journal Square trains are always packed???

I board at 23rd street, usually between 6 and 7 pm on weekdays. Hoboken train comes by...almost empty in the first couple of cars! JSQ train comes by...packed to the gills!

What gives? If Port Authority wants to save some money, they should limit the frequency of trains to Hoboken. Or (even better, but will never happen)...INCREASE the number of JSQ trains. The differential in ridership between the JSQ train and Hoboken train is remarkable.

What's happening...is it just that JC has boomed over the last couple of years?


Tommy, do a comparison of the population of both places. Now does it make sense to you? They already run more trains to JC. There's just a lot more people there.

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Gotta agree with auilix on this thread. I have been very happy with the PATH overall. I've been commuting from Grove St. to 14th for almost 3 years. The PATH has only made me late for work once, and that was the day the NYC subways were flooded and not running at all. I very rarely am not able to board a train in the morning (although I can see how I might be more frustrated going to WTC). My commute is cheaper and shorter than my coworkers in Brooklyn, Queens, and UWS/UES. I use nynj.net to time the path on the weekends so I am not waiting for 20 mins. Has anyone relied on the MTA during the weekend? I recall waiting up to an hour multiple times for the subway when I lived uptown. Its terrible and construction is always diverting certain lines. The PATH certainly has its frustrations and communication issues, but I think they are comparable to any other mass transit system in the country.

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OK, what's the deal with the trains from Manhattan to Hoboken being empty in the early evenings, and the Journal Square trains are always packed???

I board at 23rd street, usually between 6 and 7 pm on weekdays. Hoboken train comes by...almost empty in the first couple of cars! JSQ train comes by...packed to the gills!

What gives? If Port Authority wants to save some money, they should limit the frequency of trains to Hoboken. Or (even better, but will never happen)...INCREASE the number of JSQ trains. The differential in ridership between the JSQ train and Hoboken train is remarkable.

What's happening...is it just that JC has boomed over the last couple of years?

How about running the weekday trains at that hour like the weekend schedule by combining both the JSQ & Hoboken to 33rd. routes.

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OK, what's the deal with the trains from Manhattan to Hoboken being empty in the early evenings, and the Journal Square trains are always packed???

I board at 23rd street, usually between 6 and 7 pm on weekdays. Hoboken train comes by...almost empty in the first couple of cars! JSQ train comes by...packed to the gills!

What gives? If Port Authority wants to save some money, they should limit the frequency of trains to Hoboken. Or (even better, but will never happen)...INCREASE the number of JSQ trains. The differential in ridership between the JSQ train and Hoboken train is remarkable.

What's happening...is it just that JC has boomed over the last couple of years?

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Someone above mentioned the new path train cars. I first saw one almost a year ago on the unused track at W.T.C. with a bunch of technicians aboard with diagnostic machinery on carts with laptops and stuff. Very high tech. Then, I rode in one a couple of months ago and I said to myself “ hey, the new cars are online, took them long enough” just that one ride, not ever again since, they have pulled a vanishing act.
What do you want to bet that there is some huge unforeseen flaw with the cars and it will cost 1/3 of what has already been spent on them to get them to work? I ask since it looks like they are hung up on something and if they aren’t then why aren’t they in use now?

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i really cant wait for the new fleet of trains ive been a regular path rider for over 4 years now.no complaints i love the path.

heres some pics i stumbled upon for the new trains
http://www.drawandquarter.com/new-pat ... -and-fast-also-dangerous/

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That was at the WTC, by the way

I know, next time get down there a few minutes early. This isn't Europe where trains actually leave on schedule.

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I get annoyed when 1) they don't stick to the schedule and
2) close the doors in the first car before the rest of the cars.

I don't like waiting on the platform and try to time getting down there just in time.

Last night as I came down the stairs toward the first car, it was 2 minutes before scheduled departure time and the conductor had already closed the doors on the first car.

I looked down the platform and the doors on the other cars were still open. I started to run for those doors but then they closed and I watched as the train pulled out a full minute early.

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I think some people need to lighten up. Our standards of transportation is so much higher because we live next to the city with one of the best mass transit systems. Be lucky we even have a PATH train. Be lucky we aren't as unfortunate as Staten Island.

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I agree with auliux. I've been taking the PATH for about three or four years. I've only had a handful of major delays. The weekend schedule sucks, but I really don't get what everyone's complaining about. If there's one thing jclist has taught me it's that there there are a lot of entitled people who need something to complain about.

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I don't know about everyone else, but I really like my commute. The PATH has only been very late 2 or 3 times in my two years of living and commuting on the JSQ - 33rd line. I love that I can go home really late some nights and not have to worry about my line being shut down. Sure I could do with more PATH trains on the weekends or a smoother ride on the trains (hope those new trains take care of that...), but I'm quite happy and thankful for the commute that I have. I guess I'm in the minority on this opinion though?

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Tell PATH that you are fed up with unacceptable service.

Complain at

http://www.panynj.gov/feedback.php

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http://www.mycommutesucks.org/

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And then you have Ernie Wizenblast, Traffic Reporter Extrordinaire, from WINS telling you how PATH is working to keep you safe, secure & on time. What doo-doo!!

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Perhaps if they play their announcement twice as often all will be well.

"Welcome to the PATH system...open food containers, blah blah...bags are discouraged, blah blah, for emergency call 201-430-7908 extension 26945074480306168...report anyone carrying a suspicious package, blah, blah...Enjoy your ride. This message will repeat in 7 seconds."

What more can anyone ask.

Oh, to show how much they are concerned with overcrowding they are shutting down the WTC service on weekends this Summer.

Yes, PATH Thursdays are a waste of time...always have been.

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PATH Thursdays=Pure Absurdity

A half dozen PATH employees, paid to hand out useless pamphlets.

Meanwhile, not a single person can squeeze onto their rush hour trains.

Every train bound for WTC arrives at Grove St. from NWK/JSQ ALREADY FULL beyond capacity. In many cases train after train goes buy packed like sardines, and no one at Grove can get on.

Yet they spend money on pamphlets, new service announcement recordings, and platform TV's. None of which alleviates overcrowding.

PATH management is CLUELESS and INCOMPETENT.

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My question is for 1 week I had the new trains in the morning and return home from work. Where did the go? I have not seen one for a few weeks now. I guess the new trains got tuckered out and took a vacation

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if you don't really know where you are going and the train is on the same track if it is going east or west you wouldn't know you were on the wrong train if it said journal square.

I have never been at 9th or Christopher at night but if they are all running on one track.. most likely it is there too.

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I know keeping those old and busted cars in good repair is a problem




I propose we contract Ed Hardy to supply PATH with new tattoo inspired trains.

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at night they only run on one track so it can be confusing.

Confusing at 23rd & 14th Streets as well as Exchange Pl. because these tracks require walking to a seperate station or the other side of the station not just a simple 180 degree turn and walk across the platform.

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at night they only run on one track so it can be confusing.

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or you can simply look up to the overhead wall, which clearly states "uptown - 33rd" or "downtown - New Jersey"

but yeah, would be nice if the trains were correctly labeled.

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So this is mostly a rant, nothing more really, but maybe the only place to say this since the Port Authority just doesn't care.

Anyway, why the hell can't the trains display the right destinations? I got to ride a car to 33rd Street and back last night because the first car said Journal square on it even though it was head to 33rd. I know keeping those old and busted cars in good repair is a problem, but don't label the train incorrectly. Screw you Port Authority.

At what station did you board ? Because (rule of thumb) the Nyc bound trains usually ride on Track 1 and the Jersey bound trains ride on Track 2.


Late night, all bets are off as to what tracks trains are coming on. I was at Christopher which I always think is disorienting anyway.

Don't be so quick to throw in your chips. When the trains travel on the usual tracks such as Christopher St., when facing the Jersey bound track (2) the train travels towards the left. So if it was on track 1 going back to Jersey then the train would travel towards the right with track 2 behind you. Nyc travels eastward, Jersey travels westward.

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I rode the new trains twice. They are quieter and smoother.

There are about 30 seats. For those with fat asses and/or thick winter coats, they only fit 15.

The trains do not look comfortable to me. Maybe it's the blue color, or the lack of standing room near the doors.

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Saw one of the shiny new trains yesterday afternoon. Didn't ride it since it was going the opposite direction, but does anyone know if they seat more people? Besides being new, what are the improvements made on these new cars?

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