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What I really want to know is, who is willing to take bets on how soon after inauguration will it stop working? And, how many breakdowns will it experience within its first year of operation??

Because, given the frequency of breakdowns for the escalators at Grove AND Exchange Place, I fully expect this elevator to be down for maintenance and repairs at least two days per month, if not more.

Posted on: 2015/4/22 13:11

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Some additional perspective: this 20,000-seat arena in Detroit will be completed in about the same length of time.

It also takes about three months to build a Boeing 777, but that still has nothing to do with the price of tea in China. Duration of construction isn?t necessarily related to scale.

A new elevator for a subway station? That sounds like a two year job, easily.

Posted on: 2015/4/22 12:53

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Will there be an elevator to the platform level, where the train is?

Posted on: 2015/4/22 12:47

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The Newport PATH elevator was $4 million (10 yrs ago?) and took 3 years.

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Not wanting to be lumped in with the Debbie Downers and Negative Norberts, I look forward to taking my grocery cart - aka The Beemer - to Whole Foods, Le District, Eataly Due and possibly Anthony Bourdain's Singapore Market.

Posted on: 2015/4/22 12:28

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Years ago, the MTA put in an elevator at the R station at White Hall Street in downtown nyc. I don't know what other work was included (or not), but that project also felt like it took 10 years, if not more.

Posted on: 2015/4/22 2:27

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Empire State building: 15 months. I hear there's some elevators in it to boot.

Posted on: 2015/4/22 2:06

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Some additional perspective: this 20,000-seat arena in Detroit will be completed in about the same length of time.

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It took seven years to construct the Holland Tunnel and this will take two years for a stinking elevator!! Criminal! PA should be shut down and cleaned out. Oh, by the way, the Tunnel was built over 90 years ago!

Posted on: 2015/4/22 1:19

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Why does it take 2 years to put an elevator in? Some buildings are built in less than that time....

It is a Port Authority construction project... Two years might be optimistic, really.

True, but I'm just happy it doesn't look like they will close that entrance for two years.

Of course, I suspect the Marin Bvld entrance will be closed for years because a hotel will be constructed directly on top of the entrance, so they can't close 2 out of the 3 available exits.

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Why does it take 2 years to put an elevator in? Some buildings are built in less than that time....

It is a Port Authority construction project... Two years might be optimistic, really.

Posted on: 2015/4/21 23:52

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Why does it take 2 years to put an elevator in? Some buildings are built in less than that time....

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Construction to begin on $4M Grove Street PATH station elevator

By Terrence T. McDonald | The Jersey Journal The Jersey Journal
April 21, 2015 at 5:55 PM

JERSEY CITY — Construction is set to begin on a $4.04 million project to add an elevator to the Grove Street PATH station.

A federal judge in 2011 ordered the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey, which runs the PATH system, to make the Downtown Jersey City station accessible to the disabled. The decision came as the result of a lawsuit filed against the bi-state agency by two nonprofits 10 years ago.

Construction on the elevator, to be located on the southern side of Columbus Drive just east of Grove Street, is expected to be completed by the summer of 2017, a Port Authority official said.

The plaintiffs' attorney, Robert Stulberg, of Manhattan firm Broach & Stulberg, told The Jersey Journal his clients are "gratified" to see their "persistent efforts" to make this station accessible are coming to fruition.

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I'm guessing this will be the most over budget, lengthy construction in the history of elevators. And it will break after two weeks so we have to hear the path announcments about the out of service elevator at the grove st. station for years to come. And TVs will constantly remind us it doesn't work. so funny.

Jersey City gets its own Big Dig!!

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While they are doing construction, can they add an outside monitor to alert passengers when the next train will be?

And lose the flood of people rushing for a train that may or may not be theirs? Where's the sport in that?

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While they are doing construction, can they add an outside monitor to alert passengers when the next train will be?

No! They would rather you find out while at the platform. Because having frustrated riders is a surefire way to ensure you have a peaceful environment where people are packed in like sardines.

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While they are doing construction, can they add an outside monitor to alert passengers when the next train will be?

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I'm guessing this will be the most over budget, lengthy construction in the history of elevators. And it will break after two weeks so we have to hear the path announcments about the out of service elevator at the grove st. station for years to come. And TVs will constantly remind us it doesn't work. so funny.

it's amazing that the port authority talks about how much money PATH loses, but what they don't talk about is how much less money the port authority would lose if they made better decisions, improved efficiency

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I'm guessing this will be the most over budget, lengthy construction in the history of elevators. And it will break after two weeks so we have to hear the path announcments about the out of service elevator at the grove st. station for years to come. And TVs will constantly remind us it doesn't work. so funny.

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What is the construction on the south side of Columbus at the Grove Street station? Are they putting an elevator in?

There was a thread a while back because the PA lost a lawsuit because the Grove Path was not compliant with the Americans with Disabilities Act. I think that is why they are installing this elevator.

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I'm more curious as to if this is being built in a spot that would afford extending the Grove platform.

Posted on: 2015/4/17 14:26

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i would be surprised if the elevator worked at all. why is it that the elevators and escalators in nyc seem so much more reliable. maybe the the stairwell at grove path should be enclosed so that it is less frequently damaged by the elements

Escalators at Secaucus train station still broken after almost 5 months

?The parts that needed to ordered have to come from overseas manufacturers and do take some time to be manufactured and shipped to the U.S.," NJ Transit said in its statement.?

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... _broken.html#incart_river

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Gee too bad there are no escalator parts in the Buy American site below?sad...

http://www.buydirectusa.com/links/

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Posted on: 2015/4/17 14:20

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How long will it take? 5 years? 10 years? Or will it be 20 years?

Just want to set my expectations properly.

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What is the construction on the south side of Columbus at the Grove Street station? Are they putting an elevator in?

The Harsimus Cove Neighborhood Association posted on Facebook that the PA is putting in an elevator.

That will only actually work about one third of the time.

i would be surprised if the elevator worked at all. why is it that the elevators and escalators in nyc seem so much more reliable. maybe the the stairwell at grove path should be enclosed so that it is less frequently damaged by the elements

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What is the construction on the south side of Columbus at the Grove Street station? Are they putting an elevator in?

The Harsimus Cove Neighborhood Association posted on Facebook that the PA is putting in an elevator.

That will only actually work about one third of the time.

Posted on: 2015/4/17 12:54

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What is the construction on the south side of Columbus at the Grove Street station? Are they putting an elevator in?

The Harsimus Cove Neighborhood Association posted on Facebook that the PA is putting in an elevator.

Posted on: 2015/4/17 10:23

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What is the construction on the south side of Columbus at the Grove Street station? Are they putting an elevator in?

Posted on: 2015/4/17 6:27

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