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brian_em wrote:
Go ask the guy holding the hammer for his permit. #crybaby

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get over it.

brian_em wrote:
Remember the 911 commission report says that a handful of conspirators lived in Jersey City?

Remember in 2007, when the feds carted away a clerk at a grove street bodega because he was actually a Pakistani assassin?

Today, there was another "parade". Men yelling arabic through a megaphone down montgomery and grove street?Assembling at city hall. #Noise #traffic problems #paidpolicepresence

AND, no one bats an eye. No facebook group, No online petition...

"Now, I'm not saying all muslims are terrorist...I'm just saying they might be." - Cartman

AND, until a bunch of spray-tanned girls in chetah print mini skirts fly a commercial airplane into a skycraper?I'm cool with them living in my neighborhood.

brian_em wrote:
Yes. Timothy McVeigh was a creepy white hick. Those guys should make you nervous too. AND there are tons of those guys living in Jersey City now!

But again... Until little girls with spray tans and chetah print skirts bomb a building, I'm cool with them living in my hood.

stylemonger wrote:
Wow, I can' t believe this thread brought out the xenophobes. You are taking an entire culture and religion and placing them into one group of undesirables.
This is about two individuals who represent a lifestyle that doesn't fit into how we as a community want to be represented. They are drunken uneducated morons who don't belong here. Its people like these idiots from 'jersey shore' that are dragging our society down and should be ignored or reeducated on how to properly act.

wayneguy wrote:
Seems they are building an entire room on the first floor - former bay where they used to park the fire trucks.

I see no permits posted.

Why is it that when I want to add a closet in my home, I have to go to the building dept - wait months for approval, and then use locally approved contractors, and post permits while work is being done. AND then get re-inspected by the building inspector.

But these guy's, within a matter of days - are building an entire structure (inside a historic building in the historic district) with out building dept oversight or permits and with non-building dept approved contractors.


Hmmmmmmmmmmm


This may be a back door way to make this thing stop. Anybody want to run with it?

Also - seems this is commercial activity within an area zoned for residential only.

When Healy announced approval - they mentioned that "all departments" had been consulted and approved. But I bet he was referring to film permits / cultural arts, etc. - not the nuts and bolts of building department, fire department, historic preservation, and zoning.

A quick call could bring this all to a quick halt.

Vigilante wrote: You people who like this crap are a reality TV producers wet-dream. These shows are so f***ing fake and set-up. They're sitcoms for retards.

Vigilante wrote: You people who like this crap are a reality TV producers wet-dream. These shows are so f***ing fake and set-up. They're sitcoms for retards.

JPhurst wrote:
I have mixed feelings on this. The reasons against it have been stated by everyone else pretty clearly.

With that in mind, I think that one can take a longer term view that the city should be encouraging filming, and if we are going to get all tied up over the content of a particular show, it will be less likely that tv and film crews will want to try to negotiate with Jersey City whenever they want to film here.

It's very possible that the producers, film crews, etc will be involved in other projects, and if Jersey City is a reasonably affordable place to film without too much bureaucratic hassle, maybe they will be back with other projects.

I don't watch too much TV, and never watched "Mercy." But if that show had succeeded, it would have been good for the city to have a regular filming presence. If we have regular film crews, just two or three shows shooting on location for an extended period of time, the local businesses will do better. Maybe some local actors and camera crew will get gigs out of it. A few people involved may like the place and move here.

It's only six weeks. Any "image" problems that come from it dwarf in comparison to the black eye we have from the corruption scandals and the like. I suspect we can live with a few weeks of Snooki and JWoww making fools of themselves and saying unflattering things about the city.

Vigilante wrote:
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JPhurst wrote:
I have mixed feelings on this. The reasons against it have been stated by everyone else pretty clearly.

With that in mind, I think that one can take a longer term view that the city should be encouraging filming, and if we are going to get all tied up over the content of a particular show, it will be less likely that tv and film crews will want to try to negotiate with Jersey City whenever they want to film here.

It's very possible that the producers, film crews, etc will be involved in other projects, and if Jersey City is a reasonably affordable place to film without too much bureaucratic hassle, maybe they will be back with other projects.

I don't watch too much TV, and never watched "Mercy." But if that show had succeeded, it would have been good for the city to have a regular filming presence. If we have regular film crews, just two or three shows shooting on location for an extended period of time, the local businesses will do better. Maybe some local actors and camera crew will get gigs out of it. A few people involved may like the place and move here.

It's only six weeks. Any "image" problems that come from it dwarf in comparison to the black eye we have from the corruption scandals and the like. I suspect we can live with a few weeks of Snooki and JWoww making fools of themselves and saying unflattering things about the city.

Sorry but I work in film and your post is very naive. Work in film is gotten through a network of people who know you, like you, trust you etc. There is NEVER any consideration as to where a crew member lives. Basically you follow the work. I have worked all over NY and NJ and travelled out of state for work. Most commercial, TV and feature film crews stopped shooting in JC because of the hassle, cost and corruption of our city agencies. Most notably the JCPD. It just wasn't cost effective anymore. You could save money on a location fee but the money paid to the half dozen officers you didn't need was ridiculous. The money paid to local businesses is minimal as most catered food, truck rentals etc, etc are gotten in NYC or elsewhere in NJ. The connection between MTV and the rest of the production world is zero. They hire young, recent grads, call them "Associate Producers" and pay them peanuts. They are interns with a title and are routinely abused and over-worked. These people will shoot all night long without regard. Sorry but that's the truth.

chiefdahill wrote:
I don't think you need a permit to build a closet or even put up a temp wall which what they are most likely doing. Not 100% about JC but in NYC you only need a permit if you are moving and existing wall, plumbing, etc..

Several bars have rejected MTV?s contract. Barcade, LITM and Skinner?s Loft all said no. According to one of Barcade?s owners, Paul Kermizian, ?We are extremely selective about what we allow to film inside any of the Barcade locations and this really just doesn?t work for us.?

vindication15 wrote:
If a strip club was to open in JC on newark ave in downtown, Mr Johnson and Brian Em would be the first ones saying to all the protestors, "be welcoming!" "the bikini clad girls and shady guys in the club doesn't affect you at all!" "oh come on, you're so worried about a few girls in bikinis that you don't care at all about the corruption in city hall!"

For Brian Em and Mr Johnson, reputation, dignity, and respect have no meaning.

I wish Dawn Zimmer was our mayor...

I am against the corruption in city hall AND the jersey shore destroying JC's reputation. That isn't a hard concept to understand right? I can be against both right?

If JC's reputation isn't great, Jersey Shore won't make it any better. You understand that concept right? Unless you think those two girls and MTV making a mockery of JC is a good thing? Oh yeah, I forgot - you think they are going to do a political show which educates Americans...

brian_em wrote:
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vindication15 wrote:
If a strip club was to open in JC on newark ave in downtown, Mr Johnson and Brian Em would be the first ones saying to all the protestors, "be welcoming!" "the bikini clad girls and shady guys in the club doesn't affect you at all!" "oh come on, you're so worried about a few girls in bikinis that you don't care at all about the corruption in city hall!"

For Brian Em and Mr Johnson, reputation, dignity, and respect have no meaning.

I wish Dawn Zimmer was our mayor...

I am against the corruption in city hall AND the jersey shore destroying JC's reputation. That isn't a hard concept to understand right? I can be against both right?

If JC's reputation isn't great, Jersey Shore won't make it any better. You understand that concept right? Unless you think those two girls and MTV making a mockery of JC is a good thing? Oh yeah, I forgot - you think they are going to do a political show which educates Americans...

First off, YOU have no idea what their show is about. It's not the whole cast, so I'm thinking it's not going to be like Jersey Shore. Maybe the are trying to grow up...

Do your homework before condemning something, they are shooting for six weeks. It seems pretty lightweight?no big film crew.

Second - The strip club analogy is a bad one, BUT I would have no problem with a strip club opening on Newark Ave. If you don't like strip clubs, Don't go in there? I don't live in a city and expect it to be a sleepy, sheltered little town? If I wanted that, I'd pack up and move to the suburbs.

I think a better example is: I'm not gay. Gay people don't "represent my lifestyle". But I'm not trying to run THEM out of town. If someone wanted to film a show about a gay couple living in JC, I wouldn't care.

These girls don't Look like you? They Don't act the way you do, and you want to run them out of town?You want to boycott businesses they go to???? That is some straight up RACIST talk.

Corruption in City hall? It's government, it's corrupt at all levels. Esp, in NJ. We deal with it.

NEWS FLASH*
If you're one of the people who just moved into one of the new developments?We didn't want you here either. Jersey City was/is/will be VERY different than that dreamy real esate brochure made it seem. And No one is trying to kick you out.

WHY? Because Jersey City isn't Hoboken. Jersey CIty is diverse and accepting of everybody?or at least it used to be.

JC does NOT have a good reputation to folks outside of Jersey City. THAT IS WHY it's even more important for us NOT to be dicks when a national tv show wants to film here. We have a chance to correct it.

If you don't like the show or the girls?Ignore them. But going out of your way to "Protest" and create all this fuss to shut them down?It's wrong, and is just going to make us look bad.

Get over yourselves.

Vigilante wrote:
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JPhurst wrote:
I have mixed feelings on this. The reasons against it have been stated by everyone else pretty clearly.

With that in mind, I think that one can take a longer term view that the city should be encouraging filming, and if we are going to get all tied up over the content of a particular show, it will be less likely that tv and film crews will want to try to negotiate with Jersey City whenever they want to film here.

It's very possible that the producers, film crews, etc will be involved in other projects, and if Jersey City is a reasonably affordable place to film without too much bureaucratic hassle, maybe they will be back with other projects.

I don't watch too much TV, and never watched "Mercy." But if that show had succeeded, it would have been good for the city to have a regular filming presence. If we have regular film crews, just two or three shows shooting on location for an extended period of time, the local businesses will do better. Maybe some local actors and camera crew will get gigs out of it. A few people involved may like the place and move here.

It's only six weeks. Any "image" problems that come from it dwarf in comparison to the black eye we have from the corruption scandals and the like. I suspect we can live with a few weeks of Snooki and JWoww making fools of themselves and saying unflattering things about the city.

Sorry but I work in film and your post is very naive. Work in film is gotten through a network of people who know you, like you, trust you etc. There is NEVER any consideration as to where a crew member lives. Basically you follow the work. I have worked all over NY and NJ and travelled out of state for work. Most commercial, TV and feature film crews stopped shooting in JC because of the hassle, cost and corruption of our city agencies. Most notably the JCPD. It just wasn't cost effective anymore. You could save money on a location fee but the money paid to the half dozen officers you didn't need was ridiculous. The money paid to local businesses is minimal as most catered food, truck rentals etc, etc are gotten in NYC or elsewhere in NJ. The connection between MTV and the rest of the production world is zero. They hire young, recent grads, call them "Associate Producers" and pay them peanuts. They are interns with a title and are routinely abused and over-worked. These people will shoot all night long without regard. Sorry but that's the truth.

vindication15 wrote:
If a strip club was to open in JC on newark ave in downtown, Mr Johnson and Brian Em would be the first ones saying to all the protestors, "be welcoming!" "the bikini clad girls and shady guys in the club doesn't affect you at all!" "oh come on, you're so worried about a few girls in bikinis that you don't care at all about the corruption in city hall!"

For Brian Em and Mr Johnson, reputation, dignity, and respect have no meaning.

I wish Dawn Zimmer was our mayor...

I am against the corruption in city hall AND the jersey shore destroying JC's reputation. That isn't a hard concept to understand right? I can be against both right?

If JC's reputation isn't great, Jersey Shore won't make it any better. You understand that concept right? Unless you think those two girls and MTV making a mockery of JC is a good thing? Oh yeah, I forgot - you think they are going to do a political show which educates Americans...

First off, YOU have no idea what their show is about. It's not the whole cast, so I'm thinking it's not going to be like Jersey Shore. Maybe the are trying to grow up... Do your homework before condemning something, they are shooting for six weeks. It seems pretty lightweight?no big film crew. Second - The strip club analogy is a bad one, BUT I would have no problem with a strip club opening on Newark Ave. If you don't like strip clubs, Don't go in there? I don't live in a city and expect it to be a sleepy, sheltered little town? If I wanted that, I'd pack up and move to the suburbs. I think a better example is: I'm not gay. Gay people don't "represent my lifestyle". But I'm not trying to run THEM out of town. If someone wanted to film a show about a gay couple living in JC, I wouldn't care. These girls don't Look like you? They Don't act the way you do, and you want to run them out of town?You want to boycott businesses they go to???? That is some straight up RACIST talk. Corruption in City hall? It's government, it's corrupt at all levels. Esp, in NJ. We deal with it. NEWS FLASH* If you're one of the people who just moved into one of the new developments?We didn't want you here either. Jersey City was/is/will be VERY different than that dreamy real esate brochure made it seem. And No one is trying to kick you out. WHY? Because Jersey City isn't Hoboken. Jersey CIty is diverse and accepting of everybody?or at least it used to be. JC does NOT have a good reputation to folks outside of Jersey City. THAT IS WHY it's even more important for us NOT to be dicks when a national tv show wants to film here. We have a chance to correct it. If you don't like the show or the girls?Ignore them. But going out of your way to "Protest" and create all this fuss to shut them down?It's wrong, and is just going to make us look bad. Get over yourselves.

NJNJ wrote:
PattyB could you please be considerate of what you post on your public blog? While you only travel the block to pick up your son, I live practicallly next door to the firehouse. I really don't care about what the actual women in the show are doing, I am concerned though about hordes of people learning when they are filming and gathering in front of my building. Please keep identifying information away from where we live.