lecxe wrote:
I'm not an expert on many things thus when I need advice I seek it from experts. I may begin research myself but ultimately I value consensus amongst experts on a subject matter for which I'm not well versed in. By consensus I mean for example that if I ask 100 experts the same question and 90 provide the same response then I'm apt to go with consensus conclusion. I've learned that human endeavors will always contain contrarian views and 100% consensus is impossible with a world of 8 billion people. Thus there will always be voices arguing the "other" side.

The question everyone needs to ask themselves is how much do they value scientific consensus. In reading this thread there are those who appear to dismiss it and there are those who value it. What I'm pretty sure of is that both sides of the argument in this thread will have a hard time convincing the other they are right.

Mao wrote:
OPINION: DON’T VACCINATE YOUNG CHILDREN
By RUSSELL BLAYLOCK, MD
Mon,11/15/21-4:00PM, 2,860 Reads
I find it incredible that several writers have found the deaths of thousands of mostly healthy people after receiving a virtually untested “vaccine” as something we should ignore, all based on manipulated statistics. Benjamin Disraeli was correct— “There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies and statistics”. It has been shown by VAERS data that the number of deaths linked to the COVID-19 vaccines after the first six months of their release exceeds all the deaths linked to other vaccines given over the past 30 years. These COVID-19 “vaccine” related deaths are increasing at a shocking rate, by several hundred each week.

What really concerns many of us is the rush to vaccinate children aged five to 11 with, what many of us consider, a deadly “vaccine”. Our children are already over-vaccinated and adding these deadly vaccines will, in my opinion and others, mean thousands of small children will possibly die and tens of thousands more will be left permanently ruined by these biological agents. Do these “vaccine” proponents think it would be acceptable for small children to die from a vaccine they do not need, and which has now been shown to be highly ineffective?

There is a major difference between a perfectly healthy child dying from a naturally spread disease and dying following a so-called “treatment” to protect someone else. Especially when that child’s risk from the disease is virtually nil. Experts in vaccine injuries are warning of a possible explosion of autoimmune diseases in these children, including juvenile diabetes, rheumatoid arthritis, and asthma. Neurodegenerative and neurodevelopmental diseases are also a major concern.

Studies have shown that the vast majority of deaths associated with this virus occurred among people over age 70, most in their 80s and that the majority of the 9,367 deaths now reported with the vaccines by VAERS also occurred among this very same age group. Additionally, these COVID-19 deaths are also occurring by far among people who have serious co-morbid conditions and a poor prognosis without the virus.

Two highly regarded studies have recently shown that these COVID-19 vaccines powerfully suppress all immune cells utilized in fighting viruses, thus making these vaccinated children (and adults) highly susceptible to not only the Covid-19 viruses, but all viruses. Another study out of Sweden found that the spike protein from the vaccines, much to their surprise, entered the nucleus of the immune cells and inactivated two essential DNA repair enzymes. They concluded this would incapacitate the immune system of these vaccinated individuals. Paralysis of DNA repair enzymes would also put the vaccinated child at a very high risk of developing one of the hematological malignancies, such as lymphomas or leukemias. In essence, we could see an explosion of childhood leukemias or lymphomas among these vaccinated children.

Mag St. Andrews 211201

We now know that vaccinated individuals can spread the virus variant. Studies have shown that the vaccinated have very high levels of these viruses in their nasopharynx.

Dr. Peter McCullough published his results of early treatment of COVID-19 infected patients and reported that in his patients he has seen an 85% reduction in hospitalizations and especially ICU admissions—that equates to saving the lives of 85% of the infected people in his practice. The CDC ordered doctors not to administer early treatment, but rather allow these people to deteriorate to the point they were severely ill before any treatment was initiated. What this means nationally is that had early treatment been the standard, 595,000 people out of the claimed 700,000 Covid-19 deaths, could have survived, mostly in good health. That means that 85% of the people that died, died unnecessarily because of a CDC imposed policy.

These young children, in essence, would be vaccinated with potentially dangerous vaccines for a virus which in well over 99% of cases, will not make them sick. Worse still, most authorities agree, these children are not transmitting the virus. So, why are they being subjected to these experimental “vaccines”?

We have seen that vaccinating pregnant women can increase the risk of miscarriage if they are vaccinated during the first trimester of their pregnancy. Based on my careful study of the effects of immune stimulation during pregnancy (as with vaccines) I have warned that we could see a dramatic increase in autism and schizophrenia in these offspring, especially if vaccinated during the second and third trimester. I have published this immune mechanism in several scientific journals.

Which one of you proponents of forced vaccination of these very young children would be willing to exchange the life of their own child or grandchild for an elderly relative, a relative with only a few months or years of life left on this earth. I certainly would never consider such a selfish or inhumane idea. I have experienced the terrible agony and ongoing grief of losing my grandchild at age 7 years—I would have been more than glad to have died in his place. The thought that I would sacrifice the life of my child or grandchild so that I could live or extend an elderly relative’s life a few months or years is beyond any consideration.

Mag Benson Companies 211201

These children have an extremely low danger from this virus or the variant, but thousands will die, and hundreds of thousands may be permanently damaged by these “vaccines.” Will the proponents of these “vaccines” respond coldly to these vaccine-induced deaths in “statistical terms” and ignore the thousands of individual children that will have died as these same cold-hearted people have with the tens of thousands of dead vaccinated adults?

What kind of civilization sacrifices its young so the extreme elderly might survive just a little longer? There are many ways to protect the elderly population beyond ineffective, dangerous “vaccinations.” I know, I am one of these elderly.

Russell L. Blaylock, M.D., is a Northsider. He is a retired neurosurgeon and Associate Editor-in-Chief of Surgical Neurology International

Yvonne wrote:
Fully vaccinated man dies from covid, so what is the point? Around 80% had at least one shot but more people have died from covid under Biden than Trump.

https://www.ibtimes.com/fully-vaccinat ... racting-infection-3340528

Yvonne wrote:
Young children do not need a covid vaccine, unless they have childhood illness like cancer. Their immune system is excellent. There is not enough data on the harm that might happen. By the way, in Robert Kennedy, Jr. new book, he states there are no tests on regular vaccines. He said he sued the government to ask for the data and was told there are no tests. I have no problem with regular vaccines but it is wrong not to do tests. Many parents say there is a link between vaccines and autism. I have always thought these parents were nuts, but now I am not sure.

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RichMauro wrote:
Listen to what Bill Gates says about the need for real vaccines,

starts about 4:40 into the video (which is about ten minutes):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atRAv2LCqxM

RichMoron strikes again with his anti-vax propaganda. Please post your credentials in pharmacology, virology, epidemiology, etc. before we can take you seriously at all. It's easy to pick and choose clips and videos that suits your agenda. If you don't want to get vaccinated, then don't and shut the F-up and live your life. Do you get off on posting non-sense. Let everyone else make up their own minds and do their own research. So over this BS.

RichMauro wrote:
Listen to what Bill Gates says about the need for real vaccines,

starts about 4:40 into the video (which is about ten minutes):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atRAv2LCqxM

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drifterx wrote:
In other news: Not getting vaccinated will still make you more likely to get COVID.

And if you allow illegal immigrants in which 20% are ill, most likely covid with the variant type, you are spreading the disease into the country.

As of yesterday, North Dakota and Alaska lead the US in rate of COVID cases. All those infected illegal immigrants must be Canadian.

Yet Alaska leads the nation in vaccine rates. The governor is on tv with "Go Visit Alaska" and touts his 84% vaccine rate in the commercial.

https://gov.alaska.gov/newsroom/2021/0 ... ion-in-vaccination-rates/