Mao wrote:
Dear Pebble:

I think a close look at the record shows sharply divergent approaches to violence between religions- with Islam being the only major religion that has a strongly violent character. The canard that criticizes the Crusades which were the belated response of a Christian society that had been on the defensive for four hundred years, is a case in point. Most scholars are afraid or unable to look clearly at Islam. The foremost scholar of the Koran, Christoph Luxenberg, writes under a pseudonym for good reason. Modern scholarship suggests that Islam was invented as post hoc ideolgogy when the arab tribes swept over weakened areas of the Byzantine empire and that it was constructed by barbarians out of heretical,mostly Nestorian, texts.

Mao

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user1111 wrote:
The Orlando shooting suspect, Omar Mateen, was a "person of interest" the FBI investigated in 2012, was briefly put on the terrorist watch list, beat his ex-wife, and was reported by a co-worker who heard him threaten to kill people during racist and sexist rants.

Yet he was able to walk into a gun store in Florida and buy an assault weapon designed to kill as many people as possible, just as Obama warned.

Between 2004 and 2014, more than 2,000 suspects on the terror watch list purchased guns legally. So even if

Mateen had remained on the watch list, our laws would have protected his right to buy that assault rifle.

Our gun laws help terrorists. And so does Trump

What you are actually saying is even if the laws were changed to prevent people on watch lists from legally buying guns, this attack still would have happened since the Muslim attacker was not on any watch lists.

Reading comprehension is not your strongest skill. Truth hurts! Republicunts don't like facts!

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Anti-LGBT and anti-Islamic rhetoric unhinged this mentally disturbed individual.

Pretty cut and dry, you make it sound like an isolated incident. A nd just think of those that have been outed including the families of the deceased.

Of course this will be how the cover-up plays out, roll out the Father and the ex-wife...The Feds have this guy (twice) and no doubt political correctness played a role in letting this guy walk. They had the older brother from the Boston Bomber Brothers too. See something say something. Red Flags all over this guy who works for a professional security company. Red Flags all over the Army Doctor Killer at Fort Hood. And remember it is the Feds also investigating all of the thousands of "refugees" coming into country.

do you know when mateen pledged allegiance to isis? i don't. also, mateen is us born, so how would donald's plan have kept him out.

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TheBigGuy wrote:
Have you ever seen Obama be this hands on with any terror incident. I knew this was a crisis when an MSNBC reporter described the Sunday morning mood in the WH as somber because the President had to cancel his golf game. A reporter actually said that. Make no mistake this is all politics now and the democrats are running scared and they will do anything to insulate themselves. The primary goal is to get the story off the front page quickly so it won't be part of the election. And they need to be sure that after eight years as a war president, this atrocity is not the final part of his legacy.

TheBigGuy wrote:
Have you ever seen Obama be this hands on with any terror incident. I knew this was a crisis when an MSNBC reporter described the Sunday morning mood in the WH as somber because the President had to cancel his golf game. A reporter actually said that. Make no mistake this is all politics now and the democrats are running scared and they will do anything to insulate themselves. The primary goal is to get the story off the front page quickly so it won't be part of the election. And they need to be sure that after eight years as a war president, this atrocity is not the final part of his legacy.

Mao wrote:
Pebble and Asif:
Do you think there is any relationship between Islam and violence? Is it correlation, not causation? Has any peace come from it?
Also, I do not think that it is correct to assert that Islamic culture is intolerant of homosexuality. Friends who travel in Islamic lands report constant harassment from Muslim men. See, this article in The Atlantic which argues for a gay friendly- Islam that only became anti gay at the beginning of the 20th century under the sway of Europeans. http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/a ... m-in-the-closet/305774/is One recalls the recent event where a US Commander in Afghanistan who objected to the local authority routinely abusing young boys. http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/c ... h-young-boys-8911529.html
This makes the LGBT?s Islamo-philia that it shares with the Left as a whole somewhat comprehensible.
We don?t know a lot about this actor in Orlando. My guess is that the most likely understanding is that it is Islamic violence, an impulse intimately connected to the heart of the religion and its history, and which is aggressive and anti Western and picks both soft targets and targets that are paradigmatic of the West. From the World Trade to Charle Hebdo, to nightclubs. Before this gay club there were the Bali bombings, etc. The actor might have been lonely and alone etc. but the jihad impulse can get activated in various types of situations.
That being said, I don?t? think I can ever pull the lever for Trump who seems to me to be a showman more than anything- and certainly not a responsible guy who will reign in government and assert American power and order in a judicious fashion. My hope remains in a third party candidate who prevents anyone from getting a majority of electoral votes and requiring the House to choose.
Yours,

Mao

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Reading comprehension is not your strongest skill. Truth hurts! Republicunts don't like facts!

That is real classy response.... you have an issue with women if the C Word is part of your vocabulary.

If the pump fits wear it, the a-hole who calls everyone stupid. Get lost!

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Reading comprehension is not your strongest skill. Truth hurts! Republicunts don't like facts!

That is real classy response.... you have an issue with women if the C Word is part of your vocabulary.

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Reading comprehension is not your strongest skill. Truth hurts! Republicunts don't like facts!

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The Orlando shooting suspect, Omar Mateen, was a "person of interest" the FBI investigated in 2012, was briefly put on the terrorist watch list, beat his ex-wife, and was reported by a co-worker who heard him threaten to kill people during racist and sexist rants.

Yet he was able to walk into a gun store in Florida and buy an assault weapon designed to kill as many people as possible, just as Obama warned.

Between 2004 and 2014, more than 2,000 suspects on the terror watch list purchased guns legally. So even if

Mateen had remained on the watch list, our laws would have protected his right to buy that assault rifle.

Our gun laws help terrorists. And so does Trump

What you are actually saying is even if the laws were changed to prevent people on watch lists from legally buying guns, this attack still would have happened since the Muslim attacker was not on any watch lists.

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user1111 wrote:
The Orlando shooting suspect, Omar Mateen, was a "person of interest" the FBI investigated in 2012, was briefly put on the terrorist watch list, beat his ex-wife, and was reported by a co-worker who heard him threaten to kill people during racist and sexist rants.

Yet he was able to walk into a gun store in Florida and buy an assault weapon designed to kill as many people as possible, just as Obama warned.

Between 2004 and 2014, more than 2,000 suspects on the terror watch list purchased guns legally. So even if

Mateen had remained on the watch list, our laws would have protected his right to buy that assault rifle.

Our gun laws help terrorists. And so does Trump

What you are actually saying is even if the laws were changed to prevent people on watch lists from legally buying guns, this attack still would have happened since the Muslim attacker was not on any watch lists.

user1111 wrote:
The Orlando shooting suspect, Omar Mateen, was a "person of interest" the FBI investigated in 2012, was briefly put on the terrorist watch list, beat his ex-wife, and was reported by a co-worker who heard him threaten to kill people during racist and sexist rants.

Yet he was able to walk into a gun store in Florida and buy an assault weapon designed to kill as many people as possible, just as Obama warned.

Between 2004 and 2014, more than 2,000 suspects on the terror watch list purchased guns legally. So even if

Mateen had remained on the watch list, our laws would have protected his right to buy that assault rifle.

Our gun laws help terrorists. And so does Trump

Mao wrote:
Pebble and Asif:
Do you think there is any relationship between Islam and violence? Is it correlation, not causation? Has any peace come from it?
Also, I do not think that it is correct to assert that Islamic culture is intolerant of homosexuality. Friends who travel in Islamic lands report constant harassment from Muslim men. See, this article in The Atlantic which argues for a gay friendly- Islam that only became anti gay at the beginning of the 20th century under the sway of Europeans. http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/a ... m-in-the-closet/305774/is One recalls the recent event where a US Commander in Afghanistan who objected to the local authority routinely abusing young boys. http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/c ... h-young-boys-8911529.html
This makes the LGBT?s Islamo-philia that it shares with the Left as a whole somewhat comprehensible.
We don?t know a lot about this actor in Orlando. My guess is that the most likely understanding is that it is Islamic violence, an impulse intimately connected to the heart of the religion and its history, and which is aggressive and anti Western and picks both soft targets and targets that are paradigmatic of the West. From the World Trade to Charle Hebdo, to nightclubs. Before this gay club there were the Bali bombings, etc. The actor might have been lonely and alone etc. but the jihad impulse can get activated in various types of situations.
That being said, I don?t? think I can ever pull the lever for Trump who seems to me to be a showman more than anything- and certainly not a responsible guy who will reign in government and assert American power and order in a judicious fashion. My hope remains in a third party candidate who prevents anyone from getting a majority of electoral votes and requiring the House to choose.
Yours,

Mao

Monroe wrote:
Hillary came out today and said that anyone under FBI investigation shouldn't be allowed to buy a weapon. I agree. I also feel no-one under FBI investigation should be allowed to run for President. I doubt she'd agree with me.

TheBigGuy wrote:
And for the [Republicans], accepting these atrocities is an acceptable cost for allowing anyone to walk into a gun store and buy guns...

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Releasing taxes has nothing to do with how much you pay or deduct. It has to do with legality and truth. .......

LOL as I recall Romney was crucified in the 2012 election when he released his tax returns and it showed his low tax rate. Team Obama and the media had a field day with his numbers.

??an effective tax rate of 14.1%. This is a low tax rate, lower than the typical middle-class American worker pays??


At least Trump is up front saying he tries to pay as little tax as possible.

TheBigGuy wrote:
Hey Stupid.... your point is what??? An Imam In Orlando is quoted as saying the it is "compassionate" to kill gay people and put them out of their misery.... after the tweet did someone run out and shoot up a mosque? F'Off Fool!

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Once again you Global Jihad Muslim Terror deniers start mixing up two issues... There is an external threat and there is an internal threat. It is obvious the Obama Administration can not manage the internal threat and their solution is to thousands more of the external threat completely. We know what the problem is and temporary measures to get control of the immigration issue will provide relief while we get control of the internal jihadi threat.


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and how would donald have managed to root out mateen? a lone wolf. please get outta here with your scaremongering?

You fool.... they had him twice. He works for a contract security company that works for the government. They had the Jahdi Army Major at Fort Hood and classified that mass murder as work place violence. The Russians gave up the Boston Bomber. The Feds are not even trying hard with the stuff that falls into their lap. And this willful complacency starts from the top down. "Lone Wolf" is a convenient excuse to protect the people who are failing to protect US Citizens.

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Atsushi wrote:
It's a slow day at work. I'll take a break!

Things congress might say on any giving day?

Congress has become complicit in these murders by its total, unconscionable deafening silence.

Atsushi wrote:
It's a slow day at work. I'll take a break!