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Re: Trump Our New President
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No, it's still hypocrisy but only reinforces the selective outrage you have for the MSM. Either they are liars or they aren't, you just damage your own credibility otherwise.

My advice to you is to stop thinking you are 'winning' anything. Trump hasn't done a thing to earn anyone's praise but his own. It's rather sad to see those cheering crowds when he contradicts himself and his so called agenda. Pathetic really.

Posted on: 6/23 11:58
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Re: Trump Our New President
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I didn't realize putting up simple math was somehow 'moving a goalpost.' I never once claimed that she never thanked Trump, just simply stating that the math doesn't add up or much common sense either for doing so. That's partisanship for you.

So now you believe the mass media because it suits your agenda? Your hypocrisy would be astounding if it wasn't so routine.

And if I didn't make it any clearer, I think people who cheer for Trump are the dumbest people on earth. They would cheer for him no matter what he says, from one rally to the next. I should feel sorry for them, but I think they will soon feel sorry for themselves so I'll try not to add to the pity party.

Posted on: 6/23 11:43
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Re: Trump Our New President
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I know your head is so far up your ass to even realize my advice wasn't partisan. It's common sense which seems to be lost on partisan hacks like you.

So do you like Trump's draining the swamp so far? How about those promises of firing Wall Street people? The guy is so far off his rocker he thinks putting solar panels on a border wall would pay for itself (not Mexico) but you just go on clapping.

Posted on: 6/23 11:26
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Re: Trump Our New President
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Then she's dumber than a rock.

What the hell does Trump have to do with her winning a consistently Republican overwhelming majority district? He's the only reason why the Democrats thought they had a shot! She should be telling him to fuck off.

Romney crushed Obama by 23 points. Trump eked out a 1 point win against Hillary. That should be the only perspective you need. The sooner they move away from Trump, the better the country can move away from his nonsense.

Posted on: 6/23 11:18
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Re: Trump Our New President
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He was probably thinking, 'why do North Korean presidents get to have all the fun?'

Posted on: 6/13 11:39
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Re: Trump Our New President
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That's kind of hard to do when the little nimrod doesn't even believe in the investigations and calls it all fake. Kind of hard to trust Agent Orange when he fires the guy leading the FBI investigation with some lame excuses. In other words, Trump ain't doing a thing and you live in a fantasy world if you think he cares about the Russian meddling.

Posted on: 6/11 12:10
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Re: Trump Our New President
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I should blame the lame duck president? He has no real power anymore during the elections, heck he couldn't even get his Supreme Court nominee in! No dude, the blame falls squarely on the Russians and those who colluded with them. I'm pretty sure even the sitting Republicans in Congress can figure that out, why can't you?

Posted on: 6/11 9:48
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Re: Trump Our New President
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Gee, if only we can impeach Obama for his 'arrogance'. Oh wait, we can't. Too bad.

Here's the thing. Obama is gone, Romney is gone. Time to deal with the now. The problem is, you can't even face the reality that the Russians interfered and all you do is deflect. The investigations will keep rolling along, like it or not.

Posted on: 6/11 2:24
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Re: Trump Our New President
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You are seriously desperate enough to deflect back to Romney? He was a loser for so many different reasons, Trump said so!

I'm not the one saying the Russians interfered. The FBI, NSA, CIA, Paul Ryan, etc. do. It's funny how facts become suddenly political because Agent Orange can't help implicating himself when he wasn't even being investigated.

Posted on: 6/9 15:25
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Re: Trump Our New President
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It's hilarious to think that Comey is somehow a partisan when he damaged Clinton by making public statements about her investigation during the elections. Trump pretty much hailed him as an all-star and now suddenly he's a 'lapdog to Obama and Clinton.' Now that's some serious Kool-Aid you're drinking there.

We can all agree that Comey likes to blab, but he's an equal-opportunity blabber. He's your problem now.

Posted on: 6/9 9:22
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Re: Trump Our New President
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Nowhere did I say anything about impeachment. I'm just telling you FOX News dumbasses that the Russia investigation is real no matter how much you wish it wasn't. We don't know what the outcome will be but we know for a fact that the Russian interference did happen and certain persons are being investigated.

I'm not really sure why you are so upset about facts. If you are so sure that Trump wouldn't be impeached maybe you should bet your house on it. I actually wouldn't mind if Trump stayed on just to remind people what it is they exactly voted for. Elections do have consequences.

Posted on: 6/9 1:09
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Re: Trump Our New President
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Comey's statements are just a part of the fact finding part of the Senate investigation. You can bet your ass there is more that will be said in closed hearings and more from other members of the intelligence communities and law enforcement. Finally, the Russian interference is not a hoax. It has already been confirmed by said communities and agencies. Speaker Ryan knows this and he believes in it. This is not a political matter, it is a matter of national security which Trump is somehow oblivious to and keeps calling it fake, and his idiot supporters lap up. The investigation is ongoing and it will take as long as it will take. Watergate sure as hell didn't end quickly and this won't either.

Posted on: 6/9 0:55
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Re: Trump Our New President
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Sure, we can all agree that he's stupid enough not to know he may have committed a crime. That's not really a defense, especially to a POTUS.

Maybe he's also stupid enough to think he can pardon himself. The stupidity seems limitless at this point.

Posted on: 6/8 23:02
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Re: Trump Our New President
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I don't know why people still find it so shocking. It didn't work for Dubya, it's definitely not going to work for lesser idiots.

Posted on: 6/8 10:37
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Re: Trump Our New President
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Summer snowflakes

Posted on: 5/30 21:19
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Trump can't take away the program, that would take an act of Congress.


And that is really the bottom line, otherwise it is all posturing. Trump hasn't really done much with Congress other than give ISPs the okay to sell customer information and erode privacy protections.

Funny thing about that Roman Empire comparison in that they recovered by adapting foreign agrarian methods. I suspect that our economic prosperity will need some of that, and it's already happening right here in NJ. Foreign born entrepreneurs are investing and creating jobs by using mixed automation and skilled labor. Not all of them just go home or send money back, some of them are here to build the next economy for America.

Posted on: 4/21 10:02
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Re: h1b racket in jersey city about to crash
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So all this arguing and pretty much everyone is in agreement that this EO doesn't do a damn thing? Gotcha.

Trump will not take away those visas. He has no financial interest in it. Just as he has no financial interest in 'buying American'. You would have to be a special kind of noob to fall for this lip service, but then again some of you voted for him.

Posted on: 4/21 8:04
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Re: h1b racket in jersey city about to crash
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Right. The guy who sells ties made in China? Nothing crazy about that at all.

And no, taking away these visas will not save the coal miners and bring back factories. These are predominantly for tech jobs. On principle I think the visa program needs to be scaled back as there are signs of abuse but there is no putting it back in the bottle. Too much money is being made by the people who pay large sums of campaign donations. So the bottom line is, the Trump voter gets virtually nothing out of this except maybe piss off a few Wall Street folks.

Also, if Trump wants us to 'buy American' maybe he should tell his voters to stop frequenting Walmart? That should go over really well.

Posted on: 4/20 12:33
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Re: Nor'Easter - March 14, 2017
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Except of course 7 people have died due to the storm so yeah, it is a big deal. I can imagine it being worse if people rather underestimated this storm so I'm all for over-preparing.

As for 'business' disruptions, maybe if storefront owners actually clean up after the snow then it wouldn't be such a big deal. Come on people, dig yourself and your business out of potential fines and the ire of your neighbors.

Posted on: 3/17 8:54
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Re: Trump Our New President
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jerseymom wrote:
Justice Department advised not to defend Trump’s travel ban
By Daniel Halper January 30, 2017 | 6:59pm |

In an extraordinary move, Acting Attorney General Sally Yates has ordered Justice Department lawyers not to defend President Trump’s executive order blocking immigrants from seven mostly Muslim countries.

“I am responsible for ensuring that the positions we take in court remain consistent with this institution’s solemn obligation to always seek justice and stand for what is right,” Yates said in an email to lawyers of the Civil Division on Monday.

“At present, I am not convinced that the defense of the executive order is consistent with these responsibilities nor am I convinced that the executive order is lawful,” she added.

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It's not really shocking when the executive order was formed without much consultation. If people think this is purely political, there are many Republicans in Congress not happy with the executive order and not just because of how bad the optics are, they also agree it's bad policy because of how it was formed.

Posted on: 1/30 20:14
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Re: Trump Our New President
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Especially since many of those European immigrants were dirt poor and social pariahs in their own countries of origin.

It's also true that the US banned some Jews from entering the country when they were fleeing Nazi Germany. Is that where Trump wants us to return to as a country?

That is the history of America and some people here seem to have a terrible grasp of history. The real history, not the alternative kind.



Add yourself to the list.

In the real history of America, immigration policy was settled by the question: will accepting these immigrants benefit our nation?

It's true that we took plenty of unskilled immigrants, but that's because there was plenty of unskilled work that needed to be done. Working to construct the railroads was one huge project.

We never had some kind of open door policy, and it's not going to happen now. It would be unsustainable given our generous social services which are available for immigrants.

And your terrible analogy to the Jews was already debunked in the Atlantic article I posted. Not to mention, the safe zones that President Trump is working to establish in the Middle East will be a safe place for refugees to live.


It's true that there were economic reasons for accepting immigrants in the past. That hasn't changed.

What has changed is areas of responsibility. We not only have military footprints in many of these countries, we are actually engaged in the conflicts that arose from many of these displacements. The Jewish analogy fits in because we got involved in World War II and we became very much involved in the fate of the Jewish people. Whether you agree in our involvement in these affairs or not, we do bear a responsibility since we are involved.


No, we don't bear this kind of responsibility, and will fulfill any humanitarian obligations through the safe zones.

The Jewish analogy is horrible for several reasons, not the least of which is the fact that these Muslims are killing each other. If the analogy applies at all, it is to a religious minority, which are the Syrian Christians.

You know, the same ones that Obama seemed to go out of his way to reject. Christians are 10% of Syria's population yet made up less than 1% of Syrian refugees admitted last year.

That's why Trump wil be prioritizing them, once the refugee ban is lifted. And even then I would argue we don't have the responsibility to take them. But if you're going to use the Jewish analogy, that's where it goes.


That's your opinion, that you think safe zones are enough. Apparently it wasn't, ever since we invaded Iraq. I wonder why?

There is no real evidence that Obama rejected Christian refugees but we do have Trump saying he would start a Muslim ban during his presidential campaign. Too bad his ban also affected Christian refugees.


No, it is not just my opinion. In fact, we had an election on this very issue. As I'm sure you will acknowledge, the different policy stances were communicated loud and clear. Everyone knew the platforms of each candidate. And Trump won.

What people like these protesters are doing is essentially being a sore loser. I include you in this group because you are trying to skirt the fact that Trump is merely doing exactly what was promised. Something I, and 60 million other Americans, strongly believe is in our own best interest for our long term future. And you seem to be sneakily claiming that my stance is a mere "opinion," making yours fact. When it just simply isn't the case.

At best, you have a contrary opinion that was put on the ballot and rejected.

The only legitimate objection one could have to Trump's orders is the fact that some green card holders initially seemed to be banned as well. But that was quickly cleared up as a mistake in administering the order, and green card holders can travel back and forth, albeit with extra questioning. The refugee issue is settled, and as I said, we don't have a responsibility to bring them here.


Well if you are going to politicize this issue then I can rightfully say Republicans have been sore losers for the past 8 years. That doesn't really get us anywhere.

It is entirely your opinion at this point because the country as a whole hasn't followed this trend, and it won't. I guess we just have to wait and see. So far, it's not looking good for your guy.

All politics aside, I would really like to see how just having safe zones will accomplish anything. How exactly do you establish a safe zone in Syria? Boots on the ground? Talk his BFF out of backing Assad? Most of these refugees are not fleeing because of ISIS. It is because their own government has been bombing them.

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Re: Trump Our New President
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Especially since many of those European immigrants were dirt poor and social pariahs in their own countries of origin.

It's also true that the US banned some Jews from entering the country when they were fleeing Nazi Germany. Is that where Trump wants us to return to as a country?

That is the history of America and some people here seem to have a terrible grasp of history. The real history, not the alternative kind.



Add yourself to the list.

In the real history of America, immigration policy was settled by the question: will accepting these immigrants benefit our nation?

It's true that we took plenty of unskilled immigrants, but that's because there was plenty of unskilled work that needed to be done. Working to construct the railroads was one huge project.

We never had some kind of open door policy, and it's not going to happen now. It would be unsustainable given our generous social services which are available for immigrants.

And your terrible analogy to the Jews was already debunked in the Atlantic article I posted. Not to mention, the safe zones that President Trump is working to establish in the Middle East will be a safe place for refugees to live.


It's true that there were economic reasons for accepting immigrants in the past. That hasn't changed.

What has changed is areas of responsibility. We not only have military footprints in many of these countries, we are actually engaged in the conflicts that arose from many of these displacements. The Jewish analogy fits in because we got involved in World War II and we became very much involved in the fate of the Jewish people. Whether you agree in our involvement in these affairs or not, we do bear a responsibility since we are involved.


No, we don't bear this kind of responsibility, and will fulfill any humanitarian obligations through the safe zones.

The Jewish analogy is horrible for several reasons, not the least of which is the fact that these Muslims are killing each other. If the analogy applies at all, it is to a religious minority, which are the Syrian Christians.

You know, the same ones that Obama seemed to go out of his way to reject. Christians are 10% of Syria's population yet made up less than 1% of Syrian refugees admitted last year.

That's why Trump wil be prioritizing them, once the refugee ban is lifted. And even then I would argue we don't have the responsibility to take them. But if you're going to use the Jewish analogy, that's where it goes.


That's your opinion, that you think safe zones are enough. Apparently it wasn't, ever since we invaded Iraq. I wonder why?

There is no real evidence that Obama rejected Christian refugees but we do have Trump saying he would start a Muslim ban during his presidential campaign. Too bad his ban also affected Christian refugees.

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Re: Trump Our New President
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drifterx wrote:
Especially since many of those European immigrants were dirt poor and social pariahs in their own countries of origin.

It's also true that the US banned some Jews from entering the country when they were fleeing Nazi Germany. Is that where Trump wants us to return to as a country?

That is the history of America and some people here seem to have a terrible grasp of history. The real history, not the alternative kind.



Add yourself to the list.

In the real history of America, immigration policy was settled by the question: will accepting these immigrants benefit our nation?

It's true that we took plenty of unskilled immigrants, but that's because there was plenty of unskilled work that needed to be done. Working to construct the railroads was one huge project.

We never had some kind of open door policy, and it's not going to happen now. It would be unsustainable given our generous social services which are available for immigrants.

And your terrible analogy to the Jews was already debunked in the Atlantic article I posted. Not to mention, the safe zones that President Trump is working to establish in the Middle East will be a safe place for refugees to live.


It's true that there were economic reasons for accepting immigrants in the past. That hasn't changed.

What has changed is areas of responsibility. We not only have military footprints in many of these countries, we are actually engaged in the conflicts that arose from many of these displacements. The Jewish analogy fits in because we got involved in World War II and we became very much involved in the fate of the Jewish people. Whether you agree in our involvement in these affairs or not, we do bear a responsibility since we are involved.

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Re: Trump Our New President
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Especially since many of those European immigrants were dirt poor and social pariahs in their own countries of origin.

It's also true that the US banned some Jews from entering the country when they were fleeing Nazi Germany. Is that where Trump wants us to return to as a country?

That is the history of America and some people here seem to have a terrible grasp of history. The real history, not the alternative kind.


Posted on: 1/30 16:57
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Re: USA added to list of persecuted Christians
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The funny thing is, America used to ban Christmas and if not for immigrants we wouldn't have these old pagan rituals back as the Christmas we know now.

Christians should be more worried about the commercialization of their religion as I'm sure Christ would hate it now as he did back then.

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Re: Republican Convention
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He already has a wall paid for by his donors so anything is possible.

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Re: If you found the wallet this morning at Hamilton Park...
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Do I need a 'track record' to speak up against racism? I sure hope not.

Posted on: 2016/11/4 16:04
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Re: If you found the wallet this morning at Hamilton Park...
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I never said people don't have the freedom to express their opinion back – they absolutely do – but keep in mind that fueling a fire does nothing to extinguish it.


And neither does ignoring it, especially if that fire was set for no good reason.

While I appreciate the freedom we all have to say what we feel, I would like to think that lashing out against bigotry is still by far the normal response.

Posted on: 2016/11/4 14:31
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"Oh but Trump is not a politician. That's why I'm voting for him."

No, he's not a politician. He's just the guy who brags about buying politicians.

Posted on: 2016/10/25 16:53
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Re: Democratic Convention
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It's a good thing Donna Brazile isn't running for POTUS then.

Republicans however gets behind a man who constantly lies to everyone including to himself. I'm surprised he hasn't claimed his hair's been rigged because it loses to a gentle breeze.

As fat-ass-bike already said, everyone in politics lies. We should at least vote for someone who is somewhat competent, even at lying.

Posted on: 2016/10/25 10:11
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