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meowmix wrote:
A refresher for those of us who have mentally blocked out our Sandy experience: What were the factors that made Sandy so damaging to Jersey City?

I think it was a combination of high tide and big storm surge? Wasn't that much rain overall.

It was a full moon that night too. You wouldn't think that would be a significant factor, but I recall reading in the aftermath that this single element coinciding with high tide may have increased the storm surge by 1-2 feet. Also, with the eye hitting around Atlantic City, the counter clockwise churn of the storm forced the worst of the winds at the edge of the system into the right angle created by NJ and LI with maximum ferocity. The narrows was the path of least resistance, so NY harbor served as a collect pond for the Atlantic to pour into. Which then burst it's banks and you know the rest of the story.

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meowmix wrote:
A refresher for those of us who have mentally blocked out our Sandy experience: What were the factors that made Sandy so damaging to Jersey City?

I think it was a combination of high tide and big storm surge? Wasn't that much rain overall.

meowmix wrote:
A refresher for those of us who have mentally blocked out our Sandy experience: What were the factors that made Sandy so damaging to Jersey City?

meowmix wrote:
A refresher for those of us who have mentally blocked out our Sandy experience: What were the factors that made Sandy so damaging to Jersey City?

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LoKo498 wrote:Not everyone has Facebook & wants the entire world to know what they are doing every second. Nor do I give a shit on what everyone else is doing every second!

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DanL wrote:
just received this email from the mayor -

Steven Fulop Update - Week by Week, We are Moving Forward In Jersey City

no mentioned of the coming storm. his campaign did a great job helping out people during Sandy.

are we better prepared for this one?

LoKo498 wrote:Not everyone has Facebook & wants the entire world to know what they are doing every second. Nor do I give a shit on what everyone else is doing every second!

MDM wrote:
Updated Euro model is showing a big miss. Per the model, we will be still getting a Nor'Easter, but from a separate system that is forming off the coast of the Carolinas. Basically we are getting four days of crappy rainy windy weather. Joe Bastardi is still forecasting the storm going out to sea as well.

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Annod wrote:
Really? Don't you follow City of Jersey City on Facebook?

Not everyone has Facebook & wants the entire world to know what they are doing every second. Nor do I give a shit on what everyone else is doing every second!

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Really? Don't you follow City of Jersey City on Facebook?

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WhoElseCouldIBe wrote:
How are the models different in approach/methodology?

That I can't answer. I imagine that since they are trying to model a chaotic system, the models themselves are pretty involved.

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How are the models different in approach/methodology?

Pebble wrote:
Christie has declared a State of Emergency ahead of the storm.

I'm more shocked that he remembered he's still the governor of New Jersey...

slim26 wrote:
People are joking a little much over this one. Perhaps they haven't experienced or remember that we had 2 significant storms that in the past 5 years that have ravaged parts of Jersey City including my place on York that had to have the downstairs apartment completely destroyed twice.

You never know and better to have a disaster plan in place just in case it happens again.

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All I'm saying is instead of completely disregarding the forecasts and warnings that some are trying to give, based on past recent experiences, it may be very worthwhile to have a disaster plan in the case it does happen for the 3rd time in very recent history.

I know my block was a 6 foot raging river and had no power for 2 weeks - so instead of saying it likely isn't going to happen, things like getting gas and being prepared to move anything important to higher floors, and moving your car to higher ground if you are in a low laying area like southern part of Grove Street and nearby side roads like York -- all are things to at least plan to have in place so the place isn't a nut house on Saturday.

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slim26 wrote:
People are joking a little much over this one. Perhaps they haven't experienced or remember that we had 2 significant storms that in the past 5 years that have ravaged parts of Jersey City including my place on York that had to have the downstairs apartment completely destroyed twice.

You never know and better to have a disaster plan in place just in case it happens again.

I don't think anyone is joking about this. People are saying it is an utter waste of time to focus on forecasts so prematurely, as they are notoriously unreliable until you get closer to the event. In fact, looks like that's what's going to happen here.

Now I understand why people like obsessing over these forecasts well in advance of when the storm would hit (despite their unreliability). It injects drama and excitement into their lives. It generates clicks because people think what if it actually happens? It's essentially a form of entertainment.

If you want to indulge, by all means go ahead. I think that's what the majority of this thread consists of, and there's nothing wrong with it per se.

But there is a problem when you want to accuse the rational people who don't need to engage in this form of entertainment as being somehow irresponsible or failing to treat a possible event with the seriousness it deserves. Like I said, wait until two days before and then see what the forecasts say. Then you will be receiving news instead of entertainment.

The storm was supposed to hit on Monday, not Saturday. Saturday is when you start looking at the forecasts if you want to see if there is a realistic chance it will actually happen. Looking when this thread was first posted is what is meaningless. I called it entertainment, but for those who stress about it we can say "spinning your wheels."

Your point about a disaster plan is irrelevant. Living in a flood zone, you should always have a disaster plan ready. Not wait until now to come up with it. Assuming you are responsible and already have a plan in place, look at the Saturday forecasts and determine what, if anything you should follow in your plan.