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I wonder how the people of JC took the late 20s. Today the PATH has less than 65% of the riders they had back then (H&M RR).

My guess is that ridership and service was higher during what is now off-peak and rush hours may have extended into the weekend.
Also, in the days before commercial airlines and interstate highways, I would think the "Tubes" were the connector for the several railroads that did not connect to Penn Station. Also, I don't believe the Holland Tunnel was open until the late 1920's.

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In the 60's for a brief time there were cars for "ladies only" and they were perfumed. Anyone remember?

JCSHEP wrote:
I wonder how the people of JC took the late 20s. Today the PATH has less than 65% of the riders they had back then (H&M RR).

JCSHEP wrote:
I wonder how the people of JC took the late 20s. Today the PATH has less than 65% of the riders they had back then (H&M RR).

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How so? The Port Authority is the entity that's not keeping up with our changing times. Them and people who get offended by the commonly used word, 'shitty'.

And the city is contributing to the problem. The more people, the more trains. Trains that should be serviced are put back into service due to more people. Simply put, JC and the PATH, is a poor marriage, no communication. Fulop is part of the problem.

i guess the solution for some would be halt development

Only so many people can fit on boat before it sinks and there is no quality of life if you cannot take the trains to work at a decent time. There are people who get up at 5:30 am to make sure they catch an early train. What is the point of urban living if you are spending more time waiting to get on a train. I said in the past, we need more stations and another affordable ferry system. I have been saying this since the 1990s. Constantly building without providing services is just plain silly then have the mayor call out the PATH just adds to, "It is not my problem" routine.

You don't take the Path, do you? No one has to get up at 5 in the morning to get to Manhattan via the Path and it doesn't have any boats, so there will be no sinking.

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How so? The Port Authority is the entity that's not keeping up with our changing times. Them and people who get offended by the commonly used word, 'shitty'.

And the city is contributing to the problem. The more people, the more trains. Trains that should be serviced are put back into service due to more people. Simply put, JC and the PATH, is a poor marriage, no communication. Fulop is part of the problem.

i guess the solution for some would be halt development

Only so many people can fit on boat before it sinks and there is no quality of life if you cannot take the trains to work at a decent time. There are people who get up at 5:30 am to make sure they catch an early train. What is the point of urban living if you are spending more time waiting to get on a train. I said in the past, we need more stations and another affordable ferry system. I have been saying this since the 1990s. Constantly building without providing services is just plain silly then have the mayor call out the PATH just adds to, "It is not my problem" routine.

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I said in the past, we need more stations and another affordable ferry system. I have been saying this since the 1990s.

And since 1990 you're still wrong. Adding more stations is NOT solving the overcrowding problem. You can't add express trains to the existing system. You need to add more parallel tracks to existing lines.

Another anonymous person, probably city hall employee who is trying to attack logic, sad.

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I said in the past, we need more stations and another affordable ferry system. I have been saying this since the 1990s.

And since 1990 you're still wrong. Adding more stations is NOT solving the overcrowding problem. You can't add express trains to the existing system. You need to add more parallel tracks to existing lines.

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I said in the past, we need more stations and another affordable ferry system. I have been saying this since the 1990s.

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How so? The Port Authority is the entity that's not keeping up with our changing times. Them and people who get offended by the commonly used word, 'shitty'.

And the city is contributing to the problem. The more people, the more trains. Trains that should be serviced are put back into service due to more people. Simply put, JC and the PATH, is a poor marriage, no communication. Fulop is part of the problem.

i guess the solution for some would be halt development

Only so many people can fit on boat before it sinks and there is no quality of life if you cannot take the trains to work at a decent time. There are people who get up at 5:30 am to make sure they catch an early train. What is the point of urban living if you are spending more time waiting to get on a train. I said in the past, we need more stations and another affordable ferry system. I have been saying this since the 1990s. Constantly building without providing services is just plain silly then have the mayor call out the PATH just adds to, "It is not my problem" routine.

were it not for development and the ^rospect of a more affluent population, there would be far fewer amenities/restaurants....as far as overcrowded trains, maybe you might have to wait for a train or two, but it is never more than that....maybe the port authority needs to get creative with scheduling

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How so? The Port Authority is the entity that's not keeping up with our changing times. Them and people who get offended by the commonly used word, 'shitty'.

And the city is contributing to the problem. The more people, the more trains. Trains that should be serviced are put back into service due to more people. Simply put, JC and the PATH, is a poor marriage, no communication. Fulop is part of the problem.

i guess the solution for some would be halt development

Only so many people can fit on boat before it sinks and there is no quality of life if you cannot take the trains to work at a decent time. There are people who get up at 5:30 am to make sure they catch an early train. What is the point of urban living if you are spending more time waiting to get on a train. I said in the past, we need more stations and another affordable ferry system. I have been saying this since the 1990s. Constantly building without providing services is just plain silly then have the mayor call out the PATH just adds to, "It is not my problem" routine.

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How so? The Port Authority is the entity that's not keeping up with our changing times. Them and people who get offended by the commonly used word, 'shitty'.

And the city is contributing to the problem. The more people, the more trains. Trains that should be serviced are put back into service due to more people. Simply put, JC and the PATH, is a poor marriage, no communication. Fulop is part of the problem.

i guess the solution for some would be halt development

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JCCheerleader wrote:
How so? The Port Authority is the entity that's not keeping up with our changing times. Them and people who get offended by the commonly used word, 'shitty'.

And the city is contributing to the problem. The more people, the more trains. Trains that should be serviced are put back into service due to more people. Simply put, JC and the PATH, is a poor marriage, no communication. Fulop is part of the problem.

JCCheerleader wrote:
How so? The Port Authority is the entity that's not keeping up with our changing times. Them and people who get offended by the commonly used word, 'shitty'.

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If the comment in the NY Times concerns PATH services, why is the service horrible? The trains are packed when it arrives in Journal Square from Harrison, from Journal to Grove, you cannot get on. It is packed due to more people who live in Harrison and especially JC. And what are we doing to make the service worse? We are bringing in more development with more people to pack the trains. Fulop is contributing to the overcrowding which makes the service bad. He also shares the blame.

Yes the trains are sometimes crowded, although one would think that all us hoity toity people posting on JCList could arrange our schedules around that. The service is shitty because it breaks down all the time - if I don't get at least 3 delay messages a day, I assume my phone is not charged.

And now let's discuss your abhorrance of double standards. Are you no longer a member of a sect that believes that salvation can only be achieved thru a certain somebody (don't want to offend any Kiwis) and that everyone else is doomed?

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If the comment in the NY Times concerns PATH services, why is the service horrible? The trains are packed when it arrives in Journal Square from Harrison, from Journal to Grove, you cannot get on. It is packed due to more people who live in Harrison and especially JC. And what are we doing to make the service worse? We are bringing in more development with more people to pack the trains. Fulop is contributing to the overcrowding which makes the service bad. He also shares the blame.

I am offended by double standards, a citizen was removed from council chambers last year when he held up a sign blasting an abatement, yet the mayor can use any language he wants. Riaz was removed by two cops during the give-a-way of the KRE abatement for 30 years in Journal Square. The abatement also put taxpayers on the hook for $10 million in addition to the 30 years. Double standards are becoming the hallmark of this administration.

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There is no excuse for Fulop using language that is inappropriate. You can say the same things without foul language. Just another hothead like Christie, another embarrassment.

F that, Yvonne. I may not be a big fan of Fulop, but I applaud that "shitty" line specifically. When discussing the Port Authority, and more specifically PATH, more explicit language SHOULD be used by officials in published reports because there is no other way to describe it. It's really the only way to draw attention to what is, in reality, one of the most corrupt, poorly run organizations in the country.

If you're offended by that, maybe you should disconnect from the internets and the world at large. It's a scary place ya know.

Bravo Fulop!

I am offended by double standards, a citizen was removed from council chambers last year when he held up a sign blasting an abatement, yet the mayor can use any language he wants. Riaz was removed by two cops during the give-a-way of the KRE abatement for 30 years in Journal Square. The abatement also put taxpayers on the hook for $10 million in addition to the 30 years. Double standards are becoming the hallmark of this administration.