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I'm honestly curious - is that really what you believe anyone in this thread is saying?
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Deflect all you want Monroe. Here are your talking points: Blacks are predisposed to criminality; their culture is horrible and they take no personal responsibility like white people; Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson hate white people because they haven't talked about black on black crime and fixed it yet -- although we haven't fixed white on white crime either; and because blacks kill blacks, then it really shouldn't be a really big deal when whites (civilian or officers) kill blacks. End scene.
http://mediamatters.org/research/2014 ... n-black-crime-cana/200467
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I?ll posit the question again? When has any culture or civilization ever taken personal responsibility for anything stupid, wrong or dishonest? Is the Catholic Church apologizing for shuttling pedophiles throughout the world and hiding money so that they won?t have to pay out lawsuits? Is W apologizing for getting the US into a war in Iraq? Are the Chinese apologizing for the murder of college kids at Tiananmen Square? How about the British for their role in enslaving people and then shipping them to other countries?
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Ferguson Looter: ?I?m Proud Of Us, We Deserve This?
?I?m proud of us. We deserve this, and this is what?s supposed to happen when there?s injustice in your community,? DeAndre Smith told The Post. ?St. Louis ? not going to take this anymore.? http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2014/08/1 ... iolent-night-in-ferguson/
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Sharpton and Jackson have ignored the heinous crimes committed right across the river from Sharpton's base in Jersey City. Not a peep about those murders-and we know why, because they don't fit his racist agenda. A white cop kills a man who assaulted him (broken eye socket), a shop keeper half his size, and robs a store-giant nationwide protest by Sharpton. A Latino cop gets assassinated by a gang banger black felon in JC, not a word, nor about the 'shrine' erected in his sick memory. Those aren't Fox News, or Breitbart, or Rupert Murdoch stories-they are facts that happened. The sooner you recognize the problem rather than blame it on others the sooner things will improve-and improve mostly for the minorities who suffer the most. Isn't that the result we all want?
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I don't watch TV at all, and don't listen to any of those blowhards. Actually, I do listen to NPR quite often. But I do also realize that certain sites/sources are extremely biased, which was my point. You apparently fail to account for this.
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Same question for you DA, assuming you are not JCMan8, and given your black and white thinking. "You ever consider therapy?"
Posted on: 2014/8/20 2:56
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Guess not.
Posted on: 2014/8/20 2:34
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The fact that you deny the blatantly obvious is both amusing and sad.
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More black and white thinking. Seriously. You ever consider therapy?
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The irony is this incident is one of the most racist things I can ever remember. It is so blatantly about all black people taking the side of a black person solely because of the color of his skin.
The rest is rationalizations.
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DTJCVIEW, yes agreed, that is what the Atlantic article said. Excerpt
There are a number of things wrong here. To the extent that killings by the police generate more outrage, it is completely understandable. Police in America are granted wide range of powers by the state including lethal force. With that power comes a special place of honor. When cops are killed the outrage is always different than when citizens are killed. Likewise when cops kill under questionable terms, more scrutiny follows directly from the logic of citizenship. Great power. Great responsibility.
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Devils, you, JCMan, Monroe and some others are so obsessed with black people that it's downright pathological, hyper-vigilant and fixated on blackness that I wonder if you're the same person. You can't even mask it.
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/ ... php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0
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I'd add that there's a bit of a difference in holding accountable public servants and government institutions, and holding those within the local communities accountable for black-on-black violence? You think Al and Jesse need to sit down with the Crips, Bloods, and Latin Kings to discuss their rules on use of lethal force? We rightly hold our government and public servants to a higher standard.
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Devils by all means quote from Fox, Bill O'Reilly, and Rush. You're basically their acolyte and JCList mouthpiece. However, it only confirms for me and others to doubt the veracity of any of your drivel and diatribes.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza ... teners-not-poll-suggests/
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I'm sorry, what mistaken killing? Nothing here is indicative that any mistake was made. Same with the recent case involving Trayvon Martin.
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Monroe,
Your "but what about black on black crime" excuse is such a red herring and smokescreen. No one is ignoring black on black crime including Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. Sharpton addresses that too in his NAN organization, Jackson has also been involved with mitigating this and have you ever heard of Stop the Violence campaign? Also you do realize you can challenge BOTH black on black crime and police brutality/wanton killings of blacks by officers and one does not preclude the other? Also, how many black, Asian and Latino police officers do you see mistakenly killing white kids? It's predominantly white officers killing people of color. The Jezebel article clearly elucidated that. And if you would like to get out of your Fox Breitbart Drudge echo chamber, consider the information below. http://www.upworthy.com/5-black-crime ... hich-ones-did-you-believe http://www.theatlantic.com/national/a ... ck-on-black-crime/378629/ http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/07 ... ack-on-Black-Crime-Thing#
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I agree with you and VV. I think this thread is pretty polarized - it's pointless to continue debating with people that can't break out of their inability to think in terms other than "black and white". I'll just say that "two wrongs don't make a right". Polarized thinkers on this thread will have a brain-barf with that concept. http://www.palomar.edu/reading/Thomso ... 20Critical%20Thinking.htm http://www.salon.com/2014/05/09/white ... gang_and_donald_sterling/ http://www.chaunceydevega.com/2014/08 ... iding-in-plain-sight.html
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I'm not "assuming". I'm going by the facts presented so far. Based on them it seems that MB had it coming. Also, I love you linking to two liberal rags. How about I cite Fox News or Bill O'Reilly?
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This. The protestors/rioters didn't wait, the media didn't wait, bloggers crying "racism kills innocent black boy again!" aren't waiting, so why are we supposed to wait? Right now a lot of totally baseless accusations are flying to support outright rioting, so why are we the people being told to back off?
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You should ask the people of Ferguson this question, along with Al Sharpton and many in the media.
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I tend to agree with vanVorster. I don't understand why people can't wait until all the facts are in which are weeks if not months away from being thoroughly collected. There are so many assumptions and pure fantasy being thrown around.
Also, some people have been using descriptive words like "animal" and other such descriptives.........which tends to just dehumanize people. People need to grow up. I hope the police can bring law and order back.....and I hope the mostly peaceful protesters.....continue to demand justice if they feel that a wrong has been committed.
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VV, I think what you're missing is the fact that the usual suspects such as Al 'Tawana Brawley/Tax cheat' Sharpton are ready to jump on a plane when one black man is killed by a white cop, but ignores the black on black violence that is systemic in many cities across the US and kills thousands a year.
Did Al march in Newark when the cheerleader who just graduated high school was murdered for an iPhone this summer? Or when the Seton Hall Prep/returning college sophomore was murdered in cold blood in West Orange this summer? Or when the Latino cop in JC was murdered in a premeditated assassination? All those who did the killing were black, but because you had one black woman, one white man, and one Latino cop the race-baiters remain silent? We absolutely can use a dialog on improving race relations (noting, though, that black crime rates were lower in the early 60's-and we know the level of racism then was much higher) but there isn't a dialog when the race-baiters throw around assassination, execution without a shred of evidence.
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This thread is atrocious and so much for people complying with terms of service, which appears to be quite lax. None of us knows what actually happened that afternoon and let's wait to find out. We shouldn't assume that MB had it coming and we shouldn't presume that Darren Collins is guilty. What I think bothers many people of color is the blithe manner that sort of excuses the death of black people (and Latinos), where mistakes are permissible and always justified. " No one is suggesting that black Americans are saints who never commit crimes or do things that call for police action. But I have to say, it sure is funny how many actions become a death sentence when a black person is the one doing them."
These are really illuminating. http://jezebel.com/ways-the-media-and ... -of-unarme-1623881362/all http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mary-an ... d-unworthy_b_5673321.html
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Oh, then you surely believe that Benjamin Crump and other such lawyers are just out for justice and NOT motivated by finances, or that politicians are motivated by public service and NOT the power and money that inevitably comes with public office. Seriously, did you ride the short bus to school? By the way, I've seen reporters spin stuff I actually saw first hand or worked directly on. The fact that you actually bought the party line on this one shows that you truly have a double digit IQ.
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A toxicology report would be handly - Could it be he was drugged to the eyeballs (high level / reading) ... they did mention the use of marijuana .... didn't people claim that marijuana doesn't affect your cognitive skills on JClist ?
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Yup. A crazy black man charged at the cops with a knife screaming shoot me! Silly cops. They should have let the man stab them. After all, oppression/social justice, etc. Time for some more looting. http://abcnews.go.com/US/ferguson-cha ... suspect/story?id=25041218
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I hope you realize we are largely digressing from the main point. Being that Ferguson remains out of control, with protestors firing at police and 70+ arrested last night alone. All in support of a robber who has no problem attacking people much smaller than him.
Who very well may have broken the cop's eye socket, tried to grab his gun, and bullrushed him like an animal. Of course if this turns out to be true, will we see any apologies for what occurred? Even a tiny hint of personal responsibility? Doubtful.
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I'd suggest spending some time with reporters... Capitalism, it is not. Your basis in your theories on business, mine isn't a theory, it's actual reality of a newsroom borne from actually speaking with those that are editors and reporters. Maybe next time you suggest to someone that they should "read a book" you get yourself some actual information on the industry you're discussing...
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