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stillinjc, you don't have to be so jaded about everything.
This guy made an honest, informative documentary about people dealing with life shattering problems after allowing fracking on their property.

Now he was just collecting footage for a possible future follow-up documentary. Thats what it says in the article if you read it.

The law allows filming in trials/hearings that are open to the public. His forceful removal was a transgression of not only his rights but all of our rights, since now we will never have a chance to see any footage of what transpired in that room.

Doesn't that scare you just a little bit?

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Sounds like a publicity stunt by Mr Josh Fox.

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'Gasland' Journalists Arrested At Hearing By Order Of House Republicans (UPDATES)

By Zach Carter - The Huffington Post
Posted: 2/1/12 11:45 AM ET | Updated: 2/1/12 05:56 PM ET

WASHINGTON -- In a stunning break with First Amendment policy, House Republicans directed Capitol Hill police to detain a highly regarded documentary crew that was attempting to film a Wednesday hearing on a controversial natural gas procurement practice. Initial reports from sources suggested that an ABC News camera was also prevented from taping the hearing; ABC has since denied that they sent a crew to the hearing.

Josh Fox, director of the Academy Award-nominated documentary "Gasland" was taken into custody by Capitol Hill police this morning, along with his crew, after Republicans objected to their presence, according to Democratic sources present at the hearing. The meeting of the House Subcommittee on Energy and Environment had been taking place in room 2318 of the Rayburn building.

HuffPost has obtained exclusive video of the arrest of Josh Fox. Rep. Brad Miller (D-N.C.), the ranking Democrat on the subcommittee, can be heard at the end of the clip asking Republican Chairman Andy Harris (R-Md.) to halt the arrest and permit Fox to film the public hearing. Harris denies Miller's request as Fox is escorted out of the hearing in handcuffs.

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"Gasland" received strong critical acclaim and takes a critical eye toward the practice of hydraulic fracturing, or "fracking," a process in which several tons of highly pressurized water and chemicals are injected into the ground, allowing valuable natural gas to escape. The practice is decried by ecological experts for destroying ecosystems and polluting groundwater. The energy industry keeps the actual content of fracking chemicals secret.

Fox had hoped to film Wednesday's hearing for a follow-up to "Gasland." Fox told HuffPost later Wednesday evening, "We did get his staff on the phone, they never returned the phone call," referring to staffers for Chairman Harris. "This is not transparency. This is a lockout and it's bad. It's the people's House, after all. We went through the proper channels to arrange to tape this hearing. We have taped congressional hearings before and we've been turned down before, but I disagree with the policy. Anyone who says they're a journalist is a journalist. It's called the First Amendment. It's the freedom of the press, and that is fundamental to our core identity as the United States of America."

Hearings are open to the public, and any citizen can attend. Regulations only govern the use of cameras. Even under an extreme adherence to the rules, Fox's camera could have been confiscated or disabled without subjecting him to arrest. And while Fox did not have formal Capitol Hill credentials, such formalities are rarely enforced against high-profile journalists. Temporary passes are easy to obtain, and if Republicans had objected on procedural grounds, they could have simply sent the crew to the front desk, rather than ordering police to arrest journalists. The right to a free press is protected by the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Documentary crews are almost never denied access to public meetings of elected government officials.

UPDATE: 12:09 p.m. -- Capitol Police public information officer Sergeant Kimberly Schneider provided the following statement to HuffPost on the morning's events:

"At approximately 10:30 a.m. today, United States Capitol Police arrested Joshua Fox of Milanville, Pa. in room 2318 of the Rayburn House office building. He is charged with unlawful entry, and he is currently being processed at United States Capitol Police headquarters."

UPDATE: 2:27 p.m. -- Fox apparently had applied for credentialing the day before the hearing but had been unable to obtain official permission to film. He had asked a credentialed film crew to tape the proceedings on his behalf but was informed that this was not permitted.

Nevertheless, turning away journalists is extremely rare on Capitol Hill. The rules requiring pre-approval for film crews are designed to prevent hearings from being disrupted by hordes of camera operators. That was not the case for this hearing. Only two cameras requested entrance to the event, which was not crowded.

Subcommittee Chairman Andy Harris (R-Md.) was unavailable for comment, but several Democrats on the committee voiced outrage with the GOP's press blackout.

"I was chair of the Subcommittee for four years, and we frequently had people show up the day of a hearing to film," Rep. Brad Miller (D-N.C.) told HuffPost. "We asked for their name, but they were told if they would not disrupt the hearing, they were free to record. A couple of times staff said, 'You're getting in the way, don't stand there,' but other than that, I do not ever recall anything like this. We certainly never turned anyone away for not providing 24 hours' notice."

"It's an outrageous violation of the First Amendment," Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.) told HuffPost. "Here we've got an Academy Award-nominated filmmaker, and it's an important subject and the subject that he did his prior film on for HBO. And they put him in handcuffs and hauled him out of there. This is stunning."

"I found it ironic that there was not a flood of cameras there," noted Rep. Paul Tonko (D-N.Y.). "There was the one camera and then before that, the ABC camera ... if you have a camera there to bring the issue home to the public, that's a good thing."

The hearing was already being filmed by C-SPAN. Josh Fox had only sought to obtain higher-quality video by bringing their own cameras to the event. Democrats attempted to suspend the rules governing camerawork to allow Fox and ABC to film the hearing, but Republicans, who hold a majority on all House committees and subcommittees, voted down the motion. Democrats then sought to postpone the hearing to allow for filming at a later date, a motion which Republicans also overruled.

UPDATE: 3:45 p.m. -- Republican staffers told Democrats that a crew for ABC News had also been denied access to the event, but ABC News told HuffPost that their organization did not have any journalists assigned to cover the hearing. It is not clear what caused the confusion.

"We definitely did not have a crew on the Hill this morning to cover this hearing," an ABC News spokeswoman told HuffPost. "The individual who was turned away absolutely did not have ABC news credentials."

UPDATE: 4:45 p.m. -- Rep. Jerry Nadler (D-N.Y.) told HuffPost, “I have served in the House of Representatives since 1992, and I had the privilege of chairing the Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights, and Civil Liberties. In all that time, I cannot recall a chair of any committee or subcommittee having ever ordered the removal of a person who was filming a committee proceeding and not being disruptive, whether or not that person was accredited. It is a matter of routine that all sorts of people photograph and record our proceedings. Most of them are not accredited. I cannot recall anyone questioning their right to be there."

Arthur Spitzer, legal director of the ACLU in Washington, explained that "congressional committees routinely allow professional journalists to record hearings even when they don't have official press credentials, and excluding a journalist because he doesn't share the political views of the committee chair is outrageous. The Supreme Court has explained many times that censorship based on viewpoint is the clearest kind of First Amendment violation, and that seems to be what happened here."

Josh Fox, meanwhile, has issued the following statement to the press:

I was arrested today for exercising my First Amendment rights to freedom of the press on Capitol Hill. I was not expecting to be arrested for practicing journalism. Today's hearing in the House Energy and Environment subcommittee was called to examine EPAs findings that hydraulic fracturing fluids had contaminated groundwater in the town of Pavillion, Wyoming. I have a long history with the town of Pavillion and its residents who have maintained since 2008 that fracking has contaminated their water supply. I featured the stories of residents John Fenton, Louis Meeks and Jeff Locker in GASLAND and I have continued to document the catastrophic water contamination in Pavillion for the upcoming sequel GASLAND 2. It would seem that the Republican leadership was using this hearing to attack the three year Region 8 EPA investigation involving hundreds of samples and extensive water testing which ruled that Pavillion's groundwater was a health hazard, contaminated by benzene at 50x the safe level and numerous other contaminants associated with gas drilling. Most importantly, EPA stated in this case that fracking was the likely cause.
As a filmmaker and journalist I have covered hundreds of public hearings, including Congressional hearings. It is my understanding that public speech is allowed to be filmed. Congress should be no exception. No one on Capitol Hill should regard themselves exempt from the Constitution. The First Amendment to the Constitution states explicitly "Congress shall make no law...that infringes on the Freedom of the Press". Which means that no subcommittee rule or regulation should prohibit a respectful journalist or citizen from recording a public hearing.
This was an act of civil disobedience, yes done in an impromptu fashion, but at the moment when they told me to turn off the cameras, I could not. I know my rights and I felt it was imperative to exercise them.
When I was led out of the hearing room in handcuffs, John Boehner's pledge of transparency in congress was taken out with me.
The people of Pavillion deserve better. The thousands across the US who have documented cases of water contamination in fracking areas deserve their own hearing on Capitol hill. They deserve the chance to testify in before Congress. The truth that fracking contaminates groundwater is out, and no amount of intimidation tactics --either outright challenges to science or the arrest of journalists --will put the genie back in the bottle. Such a brazen attempt to discredit and silence the EPA, the citizens of Pavillion and documentary filmmaking will ultimately fail and it is an affront to the health and integrity of Americans.
Lastly, in defense of my profession, I will state that many many Americans get their news from independent documentaries. The hill should immediately move to make hearings and meetings accessible to independent journalists and not further obstruct the truth from being reported in the vivid and in depth manner that is only achievable through long form documentary filmmaking.
I will be thinking on this event further and will post further thoughts and developments.
I have been charged with "unlawful entry" and my court date is February 15.
Josh Fox
Washington D.C.
2/1/12

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Aren't car wrecks like the one that happened on Grand and Marin and a lack of enforcement the perfect argument against having a natural gas pipeline snaking through our streets and highways?

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It was on Pacific Street right near Lafayette Village. We drove right past it and you could smell the gas.

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It is located at Pacific & Ash not far from the Downtown section. I think it is between Grand & Communipaw

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Anyone know where this is? Just posted on on the NBC NY feed on Facebook.

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Residents Evacuated After Gas Leak Discovered in Jersey City
A crack was discovered on a high-pressure gas main
Sunday, Jan 22, 2012 | Updated 5:10 PM ESTView Comments (0) | Email | Print

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Crews are on the site of gas leak in Jersey City after a crack was discovered on a gas main Sunday afternoon.

About 60 people were evacuated from a residential neighborhood in the city after a leak was discovered in the 20-inch high-pressure gas main, according to Jersey City Deputy Fire Chief Kevin Stewart.

Nearly all of the homes near the site of the leak had explosive mixtures within the building.

A number of senior citizens in senior housing also had to be moved to another side of a building, and a shelter was put in place, said Stewart.

Public Service Gas was on the scene.

"They've identified the valves they need to close to isolate the leak, and they're attempting to do so right now," said Stewart.

"We've very lucky," said Stewart. "If you look, we've had recent experiences here and in New York with buildings blowing up under these conditions, so we're very lucky."

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Spectra modifies proposed pipeline route
Changes modest, but will delay federal gov decision

by E. Assata Wright Reporter staff writer
Jan 08, 2012 - Hudson Reporter

A decision from the federal government regarding Spectra Energy’s proposed natural gas pipeline will not be made until this spring, according to notifications sent by the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission (FERC) to residents over the holidays.

The company is proposing to run a gas line through Bayonne and Jersey City into New York City. Because of the pipeline’s close proximity to residential areas, local activists, Mayor Jerramiah Healy, and other city officials have argued that a natural gas explosion along the pipeline route could cause mass casualties and significantly damage important transportation infrastructure. Healy has said that the potential hazards posed by a gas pipeline will also hurt future commercial and residential development along 18th Street.

According to a letter residents began receiving just before the new year, FERC will release a final Environmental Impact Statement on the pipeline project by March 16. A final decision to approve or deny Specta’s request to build it will be made by June 14.

FERC had previously planned to release its final Environmental Impact Statement on Jan. 27 and make a decision on the project within 90 days.

FERC had to revise its schedule, according to the notice from Division of Gas-Environment and Engineering Director Lauren H. O’Donnell, to incorporate revisions made by Spectra to the project.

In November, O’Donnell wrote, Spectra filed “27 reroutes and other project modifications…that must be analyzed and incorporated into the [final Environmental Impact Statement]. This requires a revised schedule.”

If approved by FERC, the proposed pipeline would include 19.8 miles of new and replacement pipes, six new stations, and other related modifications in Bayonne, Linden, and Jersey City near the Hoboken border. The pipeline would then cross the Hudson River into New York to connect Spectra’s existing pipeline in Manhattan and Staten Island, supplying customers of Con Edison.

Much of the pipeline route through Jersey City would be built underground through the 18th Street corridor, near the Holland Tunnel and the Newport residential community.

Changes don’t address city’s concerns

The reroutes and modifications filed in November, 2011 are modest, according to a Spectra spokesperson – and likely too modest to win the support of current pipeline opponents.

“We are aware of the route modifications,” said city spokeswoman Jennifer Morrill. “However, they are all minor and do nothing to address the city of Jersey City’s significant concerns.”

Spectra spokeswoman Marylee Hanley said, “The 27 minor route variations that were referenced in the notification are very minor, for example moving the pipeline a few feet, and should not have any material impact. These minor changes were made to accommodate land owner requests, to avoid sensitive environmental areas, utilities, and future development, and to minimize overall construction impacts to traffic.”

Among the adjustments proposed by Spectra in November, the company will cut the amount of workspace by a total of 1.07 acres to reduce the environmental impact on wetlands near Bayonne.

In one of the documents submitted in November, another representative from Spectra wrote to FERC: “[The] applicants are submitting revised project alignment sheets that reflect minor route variations designed to improve upon the proposed route described in the draft Environmental Impact Statement without requiring substantive changes to [FERC’s] environmental analysis or the conclusions included in the draft EIS…These route variations will have no impact on the scope or timing of construction.”

Hanley did not comment on which specific modifications pertain to Jersey City, although some of the materials submitted with the modifications provide more detail on Spectra’s plans. For example, the portion of the pipeline that is to be built near Jersey City’s 18th Street will be, according to the company, “constructed utilizing onshore and shallow water horizontal directional drill construction methods and equipment. The…contractor will utilize two horizontal directional drill spreads; one horizontal directional drill spread will be positioned on a 240 feet by 72 feet barge.

“This barge will be ballasted approximately 100 feet southwest of the…Hoboken Ferry Terminal and covered by a tent insulated with sound absorbing materials to minimize sound as well as visual disturbances. The second horizontal directional drill spread will be located near the Holbrook Manufacturing Company building [18th and Coles streets, Jersey City] and will also be enclosed in an insulated tent to mitigate sound and visual disturbances.”

This portion of 18th Street is not only close to the Hoboken Ferry Terminal, but is also close to the Hoboken Hudson-Bergen Light Rail station and not far from the PATH subway tubes.

City officials, who object to the pipeline current route and who want it rerouted under the Hudson River – away from residential communities and transportation infrastructure – said their concerns still are not addressed by Spectra’s revisions.

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BrightMoment & NO Gas Pipeline are pleased to announce the screening of GASLAND here in Jersey City!

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Join us for a screening of GASLAND, the documentary which exposes the dangerous drilling practice known as "Fracking" which is used to extract natural gas from shale. Fracking is polluting our Delaware River water supply with toxins – Fracking is happening in the Marcellus Shale (adjacent to New Jersey) and it endangers our water supply.

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Mayor Bloomberg, Con Ed and Spectra Energy will tell you they need gas to replace oil in NYC, as main reason for "NJ-NYC Expansion Project". None mention that access to Marcellus Shale fracked gas and the opportunity to convert transmitted gas to LNG (Liquefied Natural Gas) for export.

Spectra's transmission clients would ship to Europe via Chesapeake Energy and Statoil, partners listed in Spectra Energy's filing. Then Chesapeake/Statoil would transmit by pipeline to China. This is the major reason why Spectra Energy wants to build a pipeline through the middle of Jersey City into NYC to connect with their other pipeline transmission subsidiaries also partnered with Chesapeake and Statoi.

There is a glut of gas in US and the gas industry needs to get China to compete for gas with US to drive prices up. Also, Exxon is competing with Spectra Energy, Spectra's subsidiaries, Tennessee and Algonquin and others to get footprint established in Marcellus Shale for major transmission.

It's a modern gold rush of energy corporate profits at the expense of regional quality of health, air quality, the local economy that provides jobs in established national, regional and local tourism, agriculture and many more small business jobs established in Upstate NY and Eastern PA.

Spectra Energy and the entire gas industry want to barter fracked, fossil fuel dollar jobs for the next thirty years (projected output per fracked gas well) in return for all of this access.

Greed for Health.

See Gasland to understand what is fracking, why it affects us all and enjoy art as discovery in an important film.

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"The largest domestic natural gas drilling boom in history has swept across the United States. The Halliburton-developed drilling technology of "fracking" or hydraulic fracturing has unlocked a "Saudia Arabia of natural gas" just beneath us. But is fracking safe? When filmmaker Josh Fox is asked to lease his land for drilling, he embarks on a cross-country odyssey uncovering a trail of secrets, lies and contamination. A recently drilled nearby Pennsylvania town reports that residents are able to light their drinking water on fire. This is just one of the many absurd and astonishing revelations of a new country called GASLAND. Part verite travelogue, part expose, part mystery, part bluegrass banjo meltdown, part showdown."


Awards

* Special Jury Prize – Sundance
* Best Documentary – Environmental Media Awards
* Special Jury Prize – Sarasota International Film Festival
* Grand Jury Prize – Yale Environmental Film Festival
* Artistic Vision Award – Big Sky Film Festival
* Audience Award – Thin Line Film Festival

Praise

"...one of the most effective and expressive environmental films of recent years." - Variety

"On the want-to-see- scale, GASLAND tops the list" - Washington Post

"Riveting" - LA Weekly

"GASLAND just might be the best film of the year." - The Huffington Post

"Over the past 8 days I was lucky enough to view 40 films...The most important film I saw was the documentary GASLAND...This examination of air quality and more specifically drinking water under attack from NYC to Ft. Worth was very eye opening." - USA TODAY

GASLAND is "well done. It holds people's attention. And it could block our industry." - Oil and Gas Journal President of the Natural Gas Supply Association

"VOLCANIC…With humor and inquisitiveness, Fox has delivered 2010's most alarming wake-up call." - Hammer To Nail

"When something emerges like Josh Fox's GASLAND, a work of art which also happens to educate quite effectively...this is why festivals, even the big ones, are capable of surprises, because wonderful things do seep through the cracks. Precisely because it was purely personal...and that it was as concerned with aesthetic matters as issues, GASLAND may also be some ideal of that cherished sub-genre in many festival circles, the environmental film, which tends to leave art behind for the topic it's addressing." - Cinemascope

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Time is almost out -- please post something against this pipeline!

It is easy -- just enter this docket number: CP11-56-000

Click this link below to leave a comment for the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission:

https://ferconline.ferc.gov/QuickComment.aspx

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Public comments on Spectra Energy pipeline proposal are due today

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The only thing that I would like to add to this conversation would be that Spectra should spend the extra money and put the pipeline under the Hudson. Regardless of any argument for or against natural gas, the safety of people who live near where the pipeline would go should not be sacrificed for the sake of saving some money.


Me too. That was why I became a member of No Gas Pipeline for...safety. I hope they uphold that mandate.

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Yeah I doubt the people asking the questions have a clue what's going on in Jersey City. If you tried to engage them I'm sure they would just hang up.

And they don't really care much about the results anyway, they're mainly just using it as a way to get their talking points out there more.

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I got the same call last week, gave the same response, had the same regret. I thought it was an interesting study in how opinion surveys are conducted. The end question was (paraphrasing here)

So, if Spectra were to bring jobs and improve the economy of Jersey City, would you be in favor of the pipeline?

To which I said no, and hung up. I wish I'd argued about the jobs and economy point, since I think the pipeline will do more damage than good in those regards, but it seemed like the voice on the the other line was a telemarketer so I don't think it would've made much of a difference.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Push_poll

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Perhaps the most famous use of push polls is in the 2000 United States Republican Party primaries, when it was alleged that George W. Bush's campaign used push polling to torpedo the campaign of Senator John McCain. Voters in South Carolina reportedly were asked "Would you be more likely or less likely to vote for John McCain for president if you knew he had fathered an illegitimate black child?" The poll's allegation had no substance, but was heard by thousands of primary voters.

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it's called push polling. Spectra's been doing it for a while, I just got one the other day.

It's a pretty sleazy tactic that happens a lot in politics and things like this. The lead-up and the questions are geared in a manner that an uninformed person will only get one side of the story, with the hopes that they'll support the measure, so that Spectra can later laud their public support.

A lot of times the questions are just straight up obscene, to try and pin the respondent into answering one way or the other, something like "Congresssman So-and-so let 1,000 pedophiles go free from jail last year, do you support his decision and would you re-elect Congressman Pedophile?" Even if you know the full story and you have anonimity you feel obligated to answer their way.

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Bogart - I got the same call a few days ago. Same deal. I was disappointed that it ended so quickly!

The Bloomberg story: That 20% quote is an out and out lie. The proposed line ends at the ConEd plant on 14th street. That is not a "regional thing". It is a 14th street thing. In Manhattan. Manhattan, NYC. If he meant that the new line will displace gas that currently is delivered to that plant by other means and that the displaced gas will end up in parts north, south, east and west, there is truth to that.

Of course he's for the pipeline. He'd be an absolute idiot to not be. It is a lower cost, dedicated supply for the city that comes with essentially no direct, pipeline-related risk to residents.

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I just got a phone call from Spectra. Some poor woman had to read a speech about how the pipeline would bring jobs and lower energy prices and asked me if I would favor such a pipeline.

I answered no and she ended the call, but now I regret it. I should have kept her on to find out what they were up to.

Why are they calling random JC residents and asking if they would favor the pipeline?

Anyone else get this call?

It came from 877-769-7310 in case you screen your calls. I do, but they kept calling back day after day until I answered.

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NYC mayor comes out today strongly in favor of controversial Spectra Energy pipeline

Published: Thursday, October 27, 2011, 5:09 PM
By Terrence T. McDonald/The Jersey Journal
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York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg today came out in favor of the controversial Spectra Energy proposal to add 15 miles of natural-gas pipeline to portions of Hudson County and Manhattan.

New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg gave a strong endorsement today to Spectra Energy's controversial plan to build a 15-mile natural-gas pipeline through portions of Hudson County.

The pipeline -- which would snake underneath Bayonne, Jersey City and offshore Hoboken before heading into Manhattan -- is desperately needed, Bloomberg said at a press conference today.

"Only about 20 percent of the gas, incidentally, that comes through that line will go to New York City. It goes north, south, east, west, all around. It’s a regional thing," Bloomberg said today.

Jersey City Mayor Jerramiah Healy is strongly opposed to the pipeline proposal, which federal officials are scheduled to approve some time next year. Hoboken Mayor Dawn Zimmer is also against it, as are all council members in both cities.

Healy has said that the pipeline would jeopardize residents' safety and put future development in Jersey City at risk. He also contends it will only benefit Manhattan.


The pipeline proposal was the subject of heated debate in New York and Jersey City in recent weeks. Spectra Energy officials insist it would be the safest pipeline in North America.

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The only thing that I would like to add to this conversation would be that Spectra should spend the extra money and put the pipeline under the Hudson. Regardless of any argument for or against natural gas, the safety of people who live near where the pipeline would go should not be sacrificed for the sake of saving some money.

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Pipeline Plan Stirs Debate on Both Sides of Hudson
2011-10-27 19:27:29.345 GMT


By MIREYA NAVARRO
(New York Times) -- A debate that pits energy needs against safety risks is playing out in the New York region as federal officials weigh approval of a natural gas pipeline that would terminate in the West Village in Manhattan.
The $850 million project, developed by Spectra Energy of Houston, calls for 15 miles of new pipeline to run from Staten Island to Bayonne and Jersey City before crossing into Manhattan.
Five miles of pipeline between Staten Island and Linden, N.J., would also be replaced.
The new pipeline, the first major one to be built in New York City in decades, has drawn firm support from Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg and barely a shrug from environmental groups. But with a decision by federal regulators expected early next year, an opposition campaign is gaining some heft. Critics of the natural gas drilling method known as fracking have also leapt into the fray, arguing that the pipeline would abet an environmental ill by carrying some gas extracted through fracking.
The Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, whose approval is needed for the pipeline’s construction, is receiving public comment through Monday.
At a raucous public meeting it held last week in Greenwich Village, more than 300 antidrilling and Occupy Wall Street protesters joined forces to assail the project.
“You’re about to mainline an ecological disaster for the rest of the state,” the actor Mark Ruffalo, the celebrity face of the antifracking movement, said to a standing ovation. “I’m begging you people to stand up for something that’s bigger than our bureaucratic system.”
Mayor Jerramiah T. Healy of Jersey City has steadily denounced the project, saying it would threaten some prime development areas and jeopardize the safety of many of the city’s nearly 250,000 residents. He also asks why six miles of the pipeline would run through Jersey City but only graze Manhattan, given that New York City has greater fuel needs and would be the main beneficiary.
“We run all the risk, and our friends to the east get all the benefit,” Mr. Healy said in an interview on Tuesday.
In the West Village, residents only recently began mobilizing against the pipeline, citing accidental gas line explosions elsewhere, like the one that killed eight people and burned down dozens of homes last year in San Bruno, Calif.
Many seem incredulous that such a project could even skirt their upscale neighborhood, where the meatpacking district was recently gentrified, lush green spaces have been added and ground has been broken on a new Whitney Museum of American Art.
“Why would you develop Hudson River Park if you were going to do this?” Christy Robb, who lives on West Fourth Street, asked in an interview.
Spectra points out that the project has undergone several revisions to meet safety concerns and that it now exceeds federal requirements for pipeline safety. “We’re committed to building one of the safest pipelines in the country,” Marylee Henley, a spokeswoman for the company, said.
The federal energy commission has already concluded in an environmental review that any adverse impacts could be reduced “to less than significant” levels and has recommended approval.
Mayor Bloomberg supports the pipeline as a cleaner and greener alternative to dirty heating oil, which thousands of buildings are expected to phase out under tightened city regulations over the next few years. While some will simply switch to a cleaner oil, others are expected eventually to make the transition to natural gas, which creates fewer emissions than oil and is now at historically low prices.
“In terms of cleaning up the city’s energy supply, this is a great investment,” Mr. Bloomberg’s deputy for operations, Caswell F. Holloway, said of the pipeline.
New York City officials call the need for additional natural gas supplies critical, with two other interstate pipelines connecting to the city’s underground distribution grid already operating at or near full capacity.
Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey expressed “serious concerns” about the pipeline early this year but has not taken a public position on the project, which is expected to create 1,400 new construction jobs but will also pass by some highly populated residential neighborhoods, particularly in Jersey City.
The Spectra pipeline, up to 42 inches in diameter, would cross the Hudson River from Hoboken to the West Village, connecting with Consolidated Edison’s distribution system beneath West Street via the Gansevoort Peninsula. It will range from 6 to 200 feet below ground.
Spectra says the pipeline will be built in segments of 200 feet each. Construction will rip up roads and disrupt traffic for weeks at a time, the company said, but over 60 percent of the pipeline will be laid in areas where industrial infrastructure, like other pipelines and railroad tracks, already exists above and below ground.
The pipeline would transport up to 800 million cubic feet of gas a day. The company says that 20 percent of the gas has already been reserved by Con Edison to meet the demand in New York City and that the rest will be available to the metropolitan region as demand rises.
Gusti Bogok, a West Village neighbor and a member of the Sierra Club’s Atlantic chapter, said that natural gas posed dangers, including radon contamination, and that New York should be moving toward renewable energy sources rather than creating more demand for a fossil fuel.
“We need a comprehensive plan with different options — biofuels, energy reduction programs, retrofitting,” she said.
“That’s where the effort needs to go.”

Copyright 2011 The New York Times Company

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Jersey City political foes united against Spectra Energy pipeline

Wednesday, October 19, 2011, 10:33 PM
By Terrence T. McDonald/The Jersey Journal

Jersey City City Council meetings may seem like cage matches at times, but members of the combative body were all on one side tonight, opposed to the Spectra Energy natural-gas pipeline.

The proposal, which is the subject of a public hearing at Ferris High School tonight that is still dragging on three hours after it began, has unified members of the council who are more accustomed to trading barbs inside City Hall.
Political foes Mayor Jerramiah Healy and Downtown Councilman Steve Fulop, who reached a détente earlier this year to oppose Port Authority toll and fare hikes, agree again on the pipeline proposal.

The plan would add about 20 miles of pipeline underneath portions of Bayonne, Jersey City and offshore Hoboken. Healy has been vocally opposed to the project since it was first announced, saying densely populated Jersey City would be devastated by a pipeline explosion.

“The safety of our citizens is going to be put in terrible jeopardy” by the pipeline, Healy said tonight.
Fulop agreed: “The people who know best know this isn’t right.”

Councilman-at-Large Ray Velazquez, heard recently threatening to sue Fulop during a council meeting, also spoke out against the pipeline.

Fulop, who is gunning for Healy’s job in 2013, acknowledged that Jersey City politics can be “a very rough-and-tumble, bare-knuckle sport,” making tonight’s show of unity even more astonishing.

“There are very few issues that have united the city like this,” he said.

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Great coverage.

The only point I think wasn't made was to hold Spectra and FERC to the real cost of the risk to JC. Spectra call the pipeline "safe" in their ads. Do they have anything independent to back that up, such as an insurance quote from, say, Lloyds?

Spectra are using the FERC rubberstamp to guarantee a public bailout (TARP) if there is something like a major explosion. Spectra and FERC should prove it's safe by getting an independent risk assessment from a major insurer. And not some dumbass ads.

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Thanks for becoming a member!

Interesting how Councilman Fulop did an email blast we wrote and we are getting large numbers of both member and petition signers.

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taking it down a notch, NO GAS PIPELINE. ORG needs members to improve standing.

by joining you increase the voices behind the collective effort.

its about standing up and speaking up on this issue.

please join (the good guys).

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i signed up. thanks to brightmoment and others for your work.

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At this point it's not "what might happen". If ALL of you against the pipeline don't become a Member of NO gas Pipeline. you've done nothing to Stop Spectra.

"Its All just polite conversation".

Why? simple. Only NO Gas Pipeline has stated from the start we will Sue FERC in Federal Court to Stop Spectra's pipeline. They are more afraid of us than city as we have no asets and thus nothing to lose.

I don't care if you give us only a buck, $1, just check off "Unemployed" even if you're not, or just a cheap %$#@, as we need ALL of you to show thw Federal Judge we have Members.

How many Members are enough? Nobody knows as this is history in the making. All we know is the more the better.

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Harbinger of things to come if this nonsense happens here.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/15/us/ ... pennsylvania.html?_r=1&hp

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