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Apparently the RUMORS of his passing were FALSE.
As of this morning JJ reports he is still critical, saying that there were rumors that he passed. http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... y_police_officer_mar.html Why don't we all wait for official word before burying anyone.
Posted on: 2009/7/20 12:05
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Unfortunately its true, he did pass away last night.
Posted on: 2009/7/20 11:48
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Unfortunately, it is true. Detective Marc Dinardo did pass away this evening, Saturday, July 19th, 2009.
Please for the sake of his family, his wife, his three young children, and his many, many, friends who are completely devastated right now, please let this man's family have a moment of peace. As a friend of Marc's, I ask you, I implore you, I beg of you, to leave this thread alone. Please allow this man's family and friends time to heal before you begin your speculation as to what went wrong, and what should have been done, and what if's. Everyone is quick to add their comments to a local thread, when you are safe sitting behind a computer every day. But please honor this man, by for the time being, leaving this subject alone. In memory of Marc Dinardo, a 10 year veteran of the JCPD, a long time Jersey City resident, a man who every day risked his life to protect those of us who live in this city, a father of three children under 5 years old., please, please, make no further comment on this thread.
Posted on: 2009/7/20 8:25
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My Prayers do go out to the officers. I have family that we police officers, one being shot in the 80's and survived. I also have a few friends on the police force. As for regards to the political bullshit, why do you think we have this crime problem..Healy and Comey..they know this area and other areas are crime ridden and they allow the bad element to fester...they have yet to attack crime..they are clueless how to fight crime..We need to bring in an outside Police Chief, not a crony of Healy's.
Posted on: 2009/7/20 5:53
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Posted on: 2009/7/20 5:47
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There are other rumors that Officer DiNardo passed. Scroll to the bottommost comments here:
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009 ... _officers_c.html#comments
Posted on: 2009/7/20 5:01
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Praying it isn't true. My thoughts and prayers to the family.
Posted on: 2009/7/20 3:50
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My prayers are with the family. R.I.P
Posted on: 2009/7/20 3:41
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Mark DiNardo passed away tonight at 10:35pm. Rest in peace young officer. God bless his wife Mary and their three young children.
Posted on: 2009/7/20 3:40
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from a creditable source. I am hopeing that it is not true. But sadly i am afraid that it is.
Posted on: 2009/7/20 3:34
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Oh Christ, I should hope not. Where did you hear this?!?!
As of 7pm, the report is that Officer Camacho's condition has improved. http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009 ... rsey_city_officers_c.html And more at 10pm. http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/20 ... ersey_cop_leaves_int.html
Posted on: 2009/7/20 3:17
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I think one of those police officers passed tonight. Mark Dinardo. Can anyone confirm this?
Posted on: 2009/7/20 3:04
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Line from the NYT article:
Quote: Walking downtown, it feels as if a swath of Williamsburg, Brooklyn, had been plopped down onto the South Bronx. Too true. And too many want to blissfully deny it.
Posted on: 2009/7/18 23:45
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We need a 'thinking man' police chief, not a 'john wayne' police chief. Dump Comey's sorry ass and get a chief that is post caveman solutions to law and order.
We need to recruit outside this State and even look Internationally for the best person for the job - Citizen's and cops are being unnecessarily killed by this dumb ass chief and his dumb ass ways.
Posted on: 2009/7/18 21:57
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many pro gun states that allow right to carry, ban firearms in schhols, religious establishments and bars.
Posted on: 2009/7/18 21:26
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Posted on: 2009/7/18 18:03
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Posted on: 2009/7/18 16:00
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...you have an ax to grind and you think this is your opportunity to grind it. It isn't. Other than enforcing "quality of life" issues... for which cops already have ample authority, but perhaps not ample resources... your suggestions have no basis in reality. If you're "new" to the heights, in what alternate reality where you in before you moved here? Monmouth or Hunterdon comes to mind.
Posted on: 2009/7/18 13:39
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"3.quality of life crimes penalties would be enforced. IE loitering,littering, loud radios,graffiti etc.Give police more power to enforce the law and have a legal task force to battle bogus lawsuits from special interest groups that say loud music,littering and hanging on street corners is cultural and socio-economic."
I actually saw an officer on a bike approach a douche in an escalade who was playing his dumb raggaeton crap way too loud on Newark Ave yesterday. He politely asked him to turn down the music and the asswad started running his mouth. I stopped and clapped when I saw the cop pull out his ticket pad and write him a ticket. If this happened more frequently, downtown would clean up much faster. NewHeights - you got my vote. Another suggestion... enact new zoning rules that purge barbershops and ethnically specific social clubs out of downtown. (I don't have a Ukranian flag with a monkey wearing a babushka in front of my place, neither should you have one wearing PR regalia) It makes the neighborhood look shitty.
Posted on: 2009/7/18 13:15
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Let me repeat the question, since it's something you didn't address in your 6-point fantasy plan. And because I think it's frivolous to role out that fantasy plan and your point about TREES while our police officers are fighting for their lives:
Isn't fighting crime exactly what the cops were doing there? Weren't those cops putting their lives in danger to do exactly what you accuse them of never doing? They faced the "bad element" head on and paid a very dear price for it.
Posted on: 2009/7/18 0:36
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The reason we can't put the political bullshit behind is because thats what caused this mess and its the reason our city is going to decline if something doesnt change.
JC is going to be in for a real hurt as more and more tax payers start appealing there property taxes and the city starts bringing in less money. If the city tries to raise taxes 50% there will be a coup and the entire city will turn into the slums. I promise you I could turn thing around if I were mayor. I'd piss of alot of special interest groups but i'd right this ship in 3 years max. these are the steps I would take 1. get rid of welfare/section 8 in the city except for extreme circumstances. 2 yrs to get off. thats cause im nice. I wouldnt mention this until I was elected.I need those those special interest votes. 2.Push laws for the right to carry concealed fire arms for any law biding residents that pass fire arms tests. (I think the state could over ride that but it makes a point to try) 3.quality of life crimes penalties would be enforced. IE loitering,littering, loud radios,graffiti etc.Give police more power to enforce the law and have a legal task force to battle bogus lawsuits from special interest groups that say loud music,littering and hanging on street corners is cultural and socio-economic. 4.overall neighborhood beautification and new construction that had historic or aesthetic value would qualify for abatements not just any crappy looking structure built by some hack contractor. Give tax breaks to residents that plant trees and tax residents higher that dont plant trees 5. im still thinking.....
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Isn't fighting crime exactly what the cops were doing there? Weren't those cops putting their lives in danger to do exactly what you accuse them of never doing? They faced the "bad element" head on and paid a very dear price for it. For a moment, hold your political bullshit. Pray for the officers.
Posted on: 2009/7/17 23:47
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Most of your posts boast your OG status and how you've been in JC longer then most of us... blah blah blah. If it wasn't for us newcomers, your hood wouldn't be livable at all today! Talk smack on us all you want. THANK GOD I only moved here in 2003. I don't even want to know how sh*tty this place used to be decades ago. And I totally agree with NewHeights and Tommy's posts regarding welfare/section 8. There is absolutely no incentive for people on these programs to get up off their lazy asses and try finding a job. Most of all, I agree with one of the officers: "I hate this city!"
Posted on: 2009/7/17 23:24
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by the same logic... since thousands of immigrants are here illegally and not paying income tax, why not extend to them full US citizenship status? that way they could get regular jobs, pay taxes, and more fully support the economy
Posted on: 2009/7/17 22:30
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Al Capone and Joe Kennedy made millions during prohibition. Legalizing drugs is troubling and getting people off the harder stuff won't be easy but the fact is you will never meet a drug counselor in a crack house.
Posted on: 2009/7/17 22:25
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JerseyCityNJ wrote: As far as the drug dealers in one spot being like shooting fish in a barrel in a way that is true but you are looking at it in the wrong way. Think of it more like you are shooting thousands of fish in a barrel but the ammunition never equals the number of fish and the rate they breed at. By the time you get more ammo new fish are born in that barrel to take there place.
A more accurate way to put it is that as long as drugs are illegal they will be sold by any Tom, Dick or Harriet that needs money. Since it is so lucrative every time you arrest a drug dealer there is another to take thier place. The quote about the breeding is misrepresentative. Please keep in mind Most drug dealers are white males between the ages of 18-45.
Posted on: 2009/7/17 22:12
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I live a block away from where this happened, for several years.
I have always felt safe on my somewhat gritty city block. But EVERYONE knows what Reed Street is about. Generally, you don't go there unless you want something. I was horrified to know that such violence had taken place so close to where I live, but I wished that they had busted one of the really bad houses. No such luck. I still feel safe in my home on my block, no less safe than when I lived downtown. Like a previous poster said, we all have jobs. It's one small business after another, with houses in between and above. We might not all be friends, but we know who we are and we look out for each other. This sucks, I have to say.
Posted on: 2009/7/17 21:51
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The problem with the cameras which I stated a few times on Jclist is they are not watched as well as you may think. It is pointless to keep putting up more cameras if more people are not hired and better trained to watch them. In the beginning of the use of these cameras they were somewhat more effective. However the criminals adapt to them, when they first were put up the "smarter" criminals began moving there operation out of the view of them. The bolder ones would watch which way they were facing and stand opposite of them. In some cases they even were shooting them out. Once word got out they are not watched well it was business as usual. As far as the drug dealers in one spot being like shooting fish in a barrel in a way that is true but you are looking at it in the wrong way. Think of it more like you are shooting thousands of fish in a barrel but the ammunition never equals the number of fish and the rate they breed at. By the time you get more ammo new fish are born in that barrel to take there place. There are so many drug corners in this city and even if you tried their are not enough officers to put one on every one of those corners. For every drug dealer that dies or is arrested it opens a position for a new one to take his place, and the position is always filled right away. Personally I think the violence should be a priority over the dealers. The shooting that took place yesterday was done by a "stick up kid" people like him are the ones who should be targeted first for arrest and any other violent criminal like him. The less you clog the system with nonviolent drug offenders the more time and room the system has for the violent ones.
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Correct me if I am wrong but I am pretty sure welfare can only be used for a maximum of 5 years, and not 5 in a row. It has been that way since the 90s thanks to Bill Clinton. Also you can not live in the projects with a felony or drug conviction, anyone in a housing projects with a felony is evicted and in some cases the whole house hold as well. Many people still assume welfare is for life and you can go in and out of the projects with felonies and keep your apartment. The problem with felons in the projects is they return to where they hangout and grew up even when they have a different address or sometimes stay with friends/relatives off of the lease. Criminals know how to work the system no matter how many rules/ laws are in the books. I do agree with you on section 8 it should not be for life or long periods of time. It should be for a certain amount of time like welfare. At the same time it is not like more and more people are on section 8 since only a certain amount of vouchers are even given. The wait is years long to get section 8 and from what I heard the waiting list is very long. People that truly need it can't get it because of the people that take advantage of it.
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