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Was this the only thing you were able to dig up on any town around Manville? You better keep digging. See if you can find anything on New Providence while you're at it. In the meantime, I hope you'll be at the next meet and greet, if there is ever one again. So we can compare and contrast our gene pools and all!


I was not my intention to "dig up" anything about Manville, which I never heard of before today, or the surrounding areas. I do not like or dislike the people of Manville, since I do not know them, nor I do not think it appropriate to lump them all together on the basis of one individual's attitudes, namely yours. It was only to illustrate that one can find miscreants almost anywhere.

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As someone else stated before, most people living in front of the turnpike would not consider the cesspool near Holland Tunnel "downtown". The people involved in the shooting on Exchange, are not from downtown either. But please remind me, what did Healy say?

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Hey asshole, do you think things in Greenville would be any better if Manzo, Levin or one of the others got elected?


1. You lost all credibility with your opening 2 words.

2. Neither Manzo nor Levin would be able to turn Greenville around.

That said, I doubt either of them, or the police chief they would choose, would have the gall to tell us that crime is down and it's just our perception. And please, don't try to pigeon hole all the crime in Greenville while we have fresh threads about gunfire in Exchange Place, bullet holes in windows near the tunnel and uzi-equipped robberies on Newark Ave.

Stop yourself now.

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I dont know about you but MOST of my neighbors shop at Wal-Mart or Target....

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Was this the only thing you were able to dig up on any town around Manville? You better keep digging. See if you can find anything on New Providence while you're at it. In the meantime, I hope you'll be at the next meet and greet, if there is ever one again. So we can compare and contrast our gene pools and all!

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I am sure you may not be aware of this, but Hudson County has 2 Walmarts and even a Kmart which you are probably too stuck up to shop at anywhere. Wow. I guess you didn't hear about the 2 men who strangled and bashed some woman in her own drive way in Bridgewater - and guess what? None of them came from Newark or even non-downtown Jersey City! Too bad someone didn't test your parents before they were allowed to reproduce.

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Thanks for the tip, I think I may do just that! I'd rather live among hicks then gang members and drug dealers. Take Manville for instance, I doubt that they've had 14 murders or any murders yet this year. But hey, most of you would rather get shot then have neighbors that shop at wallmart.

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Hey asshole, do you think things in Greenville would be any better if Manzo, Levin or one of the others got elected? Do you know how to move out half of Jersey City's population elsewhere? Because that's the only solution to the problem. Greenville is a freakin zoo, rationality does not apply there. Nothing proactive can be done there short of heavily infusing the drinking water with some lead and hoping that sterilizes most of the population. I bet things would improve even in our "impenetrable" downtown, since most problems migrate to us from other sections of JC or Newark.


Why don't you do us all a favor and migrate back to west Jersey where you came from. You probably moved here to piss of your parents and impress your hick buddies with how "tough" you must be to move to JC.

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Hey at least I take the improvement of the species seriously, thats why I married a blonde with blue eyes... my being half jewish and all. All jokes aside though, eugenics isn't so bad for eradicating genetic defects and hereditary diseases. This is why blood tests were once required for couples to get a marriage license.

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Hey asshole, do you think things in Greenville would be any better if Manzo, Levin or one of the others got elected? Do you know how to move out half of Jersey City's population elsewhere? Because that's the only solution to the problem. Greenville is a freakin zoo, rationality does not apply there. Nothing proactive can be done there short of heavily infusing the drinking water with some lead and hoping that sterilizes most of the population. I bet things would improve even in our "impenetrable" downtown, since most problems migrate to us from other sections of JC or Newark.
so if healy can't do it, forced migration (refugees) and negative eugenics (eradication) are the only options? this approach sounds SO familiar! but i can't place it. let's play a game of word association. maybe that will jog my memory... what comes to mind when people talk about negative eugenics and the forced displacement of civilians to purify and/or save the rest of a community?

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Wow - seriously? lead in the water.... get rid of everyone that lives in Greenville?? Cause everyone there is bad right???

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I don't want any lead in my water, please. Could you come up with a different magical solution that somehow obliterates only the bad people, since clearly the democratic process isn't working with the precision you imagine.

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Is it me who is to blame or is it the rampant, violent crime in this city that allows the unfortunate opportunity to post about it half a dozen times a week whist we are told it's only our PERCEPTION of crime that's real?


Hey asshole, do you think things in Greenville would be any better if Manzo, Levin or one of the others got elected? Do you know how to move out half of Jersey City's population elsewhere? Because that's the only solution to the problem. Greenville is a freakin zoo, rationality does not apply there. Nothing proactive can be done there short of heavily infusing the drinking water with some lead and hoping that sterilizes most of the population. I bet things would improve even in our "impenetrable" downtown, since most problems migrate to us from other sections of JC or Newark.

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icechute's caustic socio-political commentary cuts through the "crime is down" political double-speak in a way that the media (the worthless journal) apparently cannot. silencing that dissent is a graver problem than suffering it.


someone gets it!

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Icechute, crime is down FJB said so!

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icechute's caustic socio-political commentary cuts through the "crime is down" political double-speak in a way that the media (the worthless journal) apparently cannot.

silencing that dissent is a graver problem than suffering it.


I would agree wholeheartedly...except that I believe that every person who currently uses JCList has now seen it multiple times and until the story gets more dynamic, it's no longer effective.

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icechute's caustic socio-political commentary cuts through the "crime is down" political double-speak in a way that the media (the worthless journal) apparently cannot.

silencing that dissent is a graver problem than suffering it.

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why not complain to people who may be in a position to do something about it.


You've seen the election results same as me.

We are 1 week into the next 4 years of Healy, Comey, Flood & Co.

So tell me who is in a position to do something about it?


You are!

Take your passion for the subject and get involved in your community. If you are already doing that, awesome, keep it up! Present us with options and tactics that we can activate to help you fight crime in the city. Work with the politicians you favor and help them pass legislation that will make us safer. Join an advocacy group. Write a thinly veiled novel about the horrors of JC politics and crime. Call Arnie Diaz. Start a blog dedicated solely to crime in JC. Get a public access show. Protest in front of city hall.

As a last resort, move.

But to continue to beat your point to a bloody pulp on this site is a crime in and of itself. Not to mention tiresome and counterproductive.

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why not complain to people who may be in a position to do something about it.


You've seen the election results same as me.

We are 1 week into the next 4 years of Healy, Comey, Flood & Co.

So tell me who is in a position to do something about it?

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we are all well aware of the BS in this town icechute, but your 2nd grade behavior will do nothing to change it. why don't you put your big mouth to use and show up at some neighborhood meetings w/ the police? why not complain to people who may be in a position to do something about.

Something tells me you will not be alone in your issues.
You may want to learn something other than "healy said so" though. Although i get the feeling you're just one of the many on this board who love to complain and are worthless when it comes to doing anything about it.

as for the many people on this board who find you ridicuously annoying, yes, to answer your question, it is YOU to blame.

give it a rest, get another song, or just plain go away.

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Is it me who is to blame or is it the rampant, violent crime in this city that allows the unfortunate opportunity to post about it half a dozen times a week whist we are told it's only our PERCEPTION of crime that's real?

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Icechute, can you please go away until the next election.

your worthless annoying 2 cents has been made clear. now

go away.

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Can you stop? Can the moderator of this site do something to make this person stop? Seriously! Is the moderator icechute? It is soooooo old! Knock it off. Annoying beyond belief!


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Can you stop? Can the moderator of this site do something to make this person stop? Seriously! Is the moderator icechute? It is soooooo old! Knock it off. Annoying beyond belief!

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IT'S ALL YOUR IMAGINATION; COMEY SAID SO!

CRIME IS DOWN; HEALY SAID SO!

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DeFazio: 23-year-old Jersey City man fatally shot in head this morning

by The Jersey Journal
Monday May 25, 2009, 2:52 PM

A 23-year-old Jersey City man was fatally shot in the head at the corner of Grant Avenue and Rose Street at about 12:30 a.m. today, Hudson County Prosecutor Edward DeFazio said.

Robbery did not appear to the motive in the shooting of Marion Ortiz, who had been staying with his girlfriend who lives on Grant Avenue, DeFazio said.

No arrests have been made in this shooting, he said.

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