r_pinkowitz wrote:

I respect your opinions and I never attack someone for supporting their candidate of choice.... but considering Fulop's relationship with Steve Hyman, you may want to choose a better example. (sorry... I couldn't resist)
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Vigilante wrote:
Please! What's that saying? "My Father warned me about nepotism when he got me into the business." Sorry, I don't want a Healy Ticket. I want a councilman who will challenge the mayor when he sees the need. Catrillo is Healy's boy and that's why he's running. Next thing you know we'll have a Chuck E' Cheese where the 6th. Street embankment was.

I respect your opinions and I never attack someone for supporting their candidate of choice.... but considering Fulop's relationship with Steve Hyman, you may want to choose a better example. (sorry... I couldn't resist)

Anyway~ I'm sad to hear Geoff Elkind was not running, he would have been one of the best independent councilpersons Ward E has seen in years.

Vigilante wrote:
Please! What's that saying? "My Father warned me about nepotism when he got me into the business." Sorry, I don't want a Healy Ticket. I want a councilman who will challenge the mayor when he sees the need. Catrillo is Healy's boy and that's why he's running. Next thing you know we'll have a Chuck E' Cheese where the 6th. Street embankment was.

Vigilante wrote:
From Politicker NJ:
He now works for Healy in the city planning department.

jim399 wrote:
P.S. Think of it the other way. What is the worst thing that Fulop has ever done? Propose a wacky off-ramp for the Turnpike over 10th Street! Compared to his colleagues, he's benign.

KNOWITALL wrote:
I have been following this thread for a while, and think it's time to repsond. As Popeye would say, "I cants take it no more!". I have been a resident of J.C. for 14 years, and in Hudson County for twice as long. In my years following the political scene, I have not come across a more proactive councilperson/politician than Steve Fulop. I do not agree with every vote or every comment he makes, but he's a person who has the best interest of his city and ward at heart.

In theory, a councilperson is a part-time position. Someone forgot to tell Steve that. He's extremely active in the community, very generous with his time and support, and listens to his constituents. Several postings here refer to him as a carpetbagger and an elitist. I always thought a carpetbagger was a person who takes and doesn't give back. I wouldn't say that represents Steve Fulop's character. As for being an elitist, I wish he was more of one. I find he relates to all people regardless of education and financial success. He certainly doesn't judge a man by the size of their wallet.

Be that as it may, he does have his faults... as do all of us. He's often thin-skinned, who takes personally the ridiculous comments of posters on this list and disgruntled city employees. Regarding his latest beef with Lou Manzo, mayoral candidate Manzo took it upon himself to insult Fulop when he wouldn't support Manzo's 5th mayoral candidacy. I wish Steve did not feel a need to respond to Manzo's comments which show Manzo's frustration in beating the Healy machine.

Many of us were disappointed that Steve did not run for Mayor this year. With Healy's campaign war chest at over 2 million dollars, I'm sure he felt the time was not right. From what I can tell Healy asked over 6 people to run against Fulop in his reelection bid for councilperson. Healy and Fulop are not in bed together. Steve continues to criticize the mayor when he believes it's warranted.

I urge everyone in this ward to support Steve Fulop in his reelection. He is by far the best councilperson this ward has seen.

On another note, I urge all to support Dan Levin in his mayoral bid. Though Dan's attempts against the machine might be futile, he warrants our support. There is no such thing as a wasted vote! Even if it sets the seeds for the future, honest people like Dan need to be involved in politics and supported. If you are not registered to vote, please register now.

SUPPORT FULOP & LEVIN!!!
I only wish they got along better cause they seem to agree on what is important for Jersey City and it's future.
Thank you.

Per the other point, sure you may read about some losing votes that I have had and it is frustrating for certain. However, if someone wants to make the argument that because I don?t vote for a waterfront tax abatement and lose 7-2 when the mayor is advocating for approval, or that I lose 8-1 when I believe we should be in a hiring freeze, or that the integrity of the arts district is important, well that is just beliefs I have that I won?t change for the sake of conforming so that I could have been on the winning side of a vote. Would it have been better if I went along with these votes so I can be on the winning end of a vote that I or many of our constituents don?t agree with? That?s just not what I believe.

Ross_Ewage wrote:It would be nice to have some specifics and please don't refer us to ELEC reports and "no need to go into details", because without those details it's just "he said she said".

Ross_Ewage wrote:...the councilman's unwillingness or inability to work with his colleagues on the council has made downtown less powerful than it should be in local politics.

Levitt...said his primary focus will be the environment.

"I think Jersey City has the potential to be an example to cities all around the world in terms of what's possible in terms of sustainability and the environment," he said.

This has been my problem with you for close to 4 years. From your first entrance onto the local political scene, you have criticized and denounced others for their alliances, when you are guilty of the exact same thing. Even your ELEC reports reads the same as those you attack. .

We both are privee to the names of many of the upfront and behind the scenes players and their histories. Your last campaign introduced us to some that I never heard of until certain events happened?(no need to go into details).

Your silence on some major Ward E issues has become deafening, perhaps because of these alliances. If you had checked your ego at the door four years ago, and placed keeping your campaign promises to the voters ahead of promises to your alliances...

Pinky you have had a grudge against Fulop since you and JR got beat four years ago.Please tell us what Fulop has been so silent on.As for peeing on someones leg,you must be talking about Steve lipski.You wish no one the best of luck because your a bitter person who thinks she knows better than everyone else.

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StevenFulop wrote:
Headed for an early run and figured i would comment on this one. Firstly, thanks for the positive statements - i am extremely appreciative and it is encouraging. Over the last four years I sometimes wish that I kept a diary of happenings on the political front so I don't forget any of these lessons when I am out of politics although I think the last 2-3 months have been the largest learning experience for me on politics in general in Jersey City.

I would prob say 20 of the "volunteer/political friends" I had decided to leave our team and join one of the mayoral campaigns that they were opposed too within 24 hours of me saying that I wasn't running for mayor.... Many of them have their own personal agenda that they conveyed as their rationale after the fact that is beyond me nor would I have entertained requests had I declared that I was running for mayor. With that said, similar to Josh, I would suspect we will see 2-3 more council candidates based on conversations I have had with people who volunteered when they thought I was possibly running for mayor whom have told me in the past in meetings that they had interest in running for council - I would them I have known before they declared.

In reality, of course I would prob have the easiest time with the smallest field to run against but as I said in the Jersey Journal last month with regards to Healy, it is not my choice.

Hope all is well and info is helpful
Steve

Council member,

This has been my problem with you for close to 4 years. From your first entrance onto the local political scene, you have criticized and denounced others for their alliances, when you are guilty of the exact same thing. Even your ELEC reports reads the same as those you attack. Perhaps, at the beginning, people in downtown were willing to cut you some slack for being new to the game or wet around the ears, but in hindsight, with 3 1/2 years behind you, there are no excuses for your choice of alliances. It's a bit hard to swallow such excuses, when you continue to make the same bad judgment calls, and then ask us to believe that you have been "duped", "had" or victimized by these people. Please don't pee on my leg and then tell me it's raining. You're not that stupid, and neither are we.

We both are privee to the names of many of the upfront and behind the scenes players and their histories. Your last campaign introduced us to some that I never heard of until certain events happened?(no need to go into details). It sickens me that you still remain aligned or entangled with some of the worst of them to this day. I would be among the first to gladly tip my hat to you if you demonstrated true independence and kicked them all to the curb, but I'm not holding my breath.

You seem to be somewhat sincere and kudos to you for owning up to the fact that you may have been aligning yourself with people that had their own personal agendas, but it seems a bit late to have this sudden insight into the reality about Jersey City politics, as what you speak about above was self-inflicted.

Your silence on some major Ward E issues has become deafening, perhaps because of these alliances. If you had checked your ego at the door four years ago, and placed keeping your campaign promises to the voters ahead of promises to your alliances, you might have had a more productive and effective term in office when it came to those original promises. Although past performance is no predictor of future results, you've got alot of work ahead of your to turn things around.

I wish you the best of luck. It's never too late, unless you no longer want it...

StevenFulop wrote:
Headed for an early run and figured i would comment on this one. Firstly, thanks for the positive statements - i am extremely appreciative and it is encouraging. Over the last four years I sometimes wish that I kept a diary of happenings on the political front so I don't forget any of these lessons when I am out of politics although I think the last 2-3 months have been the largest learning experience for me on politics in general in Jersey City.

I would prob say 20 of the "volunteer/political friends" I had decided to leave our team and join one of the mayoral campaigns that they were opposed too within 24 hours of me saying that I wasn't running for mayor.... Many of them have their own personal agenda that they conveyed as their rationale after the fact that is beyond me nor would I have entertained requests had I declared that I was running for mayor. With that said, similar to Josh, I would suspect we will see 2-3 more council candidates based on conversations I have had with people who volunteered when they thought I was possibly running for mayor whom have told me in the past in meetings that they had interest in running for council - I would obviously have hoped not to have them run against me but I cant control this and I dont discourage it of course. Josh in particular was a closer working relationship, who I knew of through mutual friends for sometime, was very involved in the BetterJC initiative, and was even part of a large group vacation I went on, so it is slightly different/more meaningful to me personally but I keep the same statement regardless on all candidates. As I said in the newspaper on Frank, Guy, Jamie, and Josh - generally speaking I know these people personally and say "more people the better as it creates a better dialog". Generally. like the JC Independent reported on Josh none of the candidates who have declared to this point are surprises because some have conveyed to me prior their intentions and all of them I have known before they declared.

In reality, of course I would prob have the easiest time with the smallest field to run against but as I said in the Jersey Journal last month with regards to Healy, it is not my choice.

Hope all is well and info is helpful
Steve

mrrogers wrote:
My two cents.
I think a lot of people who both like and dislike steve Fulop were shocked that he did not run for Mayor.These same people had their eye on his seat and would have jumped in with both feet because it would have been an open seat.
Its obvious that some don't want to wait for Fulop to move on.

Some of these people were probably in the Fulop camp hoping to get the seat when steve ran for Mayor.I know more than a few who are now actively working for Manzo but were long time Fulop
supporters.

This is Hudson county after all and nothing surprises me.Healy was elected to his at large council seat on Lou Manzos ticket.
So that means they were friends once,no?

Like someone else here said "you can't make this stuff up"

SamS wrote:
Certainly, this is no where near as bizarre as a drunken mayor, sitting/sleeping on his front porch for the world to see him in all his glory, or just his angry inch.. Only to follow that act with a fraternity style drunken brawl at the Jersey Shore. "Where were you when the lights went out at Dee Jayees?"

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GrovePath wrote:
I don't get why the facebook pictures remain up -- Talk about "Hobokeness"...

Good question and why would anyone have an ?open to the general public? Facebook page that over 175 million active users can see. This is just all too bizarre even by HC politics standards. Like I said before ??you can?t make this stuff up.